What's A Bigger Cliche: "I Hate Mimes!" Or "I'm Scared Of Clowns!"

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The Saddest Juggalo (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Rigoletto didn't make me run away in terror.

Jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Rigoletto was the original Juggalo.

The Saddest Juggalo (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Pictures of 19th century and early 20th century clowns are amazing. And a little spooky. Um, not that I have any on me. I lived in Philadelphia for 15 years, so there you found irrational (and occasionally justified) hatred of mummers! And the pictures of the original mummer's parades in Philly in the early part of the 20th century are also quite interesting and bizarre.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link

The, like, worst thing ever would be a homosexual hipster pierrot doing a silent clown act in whiteface, man

This explains the failure of The Centuries to really catch on with the kids.

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Or Klaus Nomi for that matter.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Momus in trying to conceive of hipsters as a persecuted marginalized minority non-shockah

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

momus doesn't really seem hip, or a hipster. I don't mean that as a sort of insult, but it does not seem to be a word which you'd think of in connection with momus.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link

"E.T. sucks and is not for little kids.
-- hstencil (hstenci...), June 8th, 2004."
holy shit this is the most OTM in life.

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

People who wear cosby sweaters aren't really hipsters, are they?

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Mimes aren't really creepy, they're just kind of stupid and pointless.

Clowns, however, are freaking sick. Yes, they're avoidable, but they're still just frightening as fuck.

Possibly Kate Again (kate), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yes, there was a CSI episode about murdered clowns recently, too. if it is on CSI, it has passed past urban myth or cliche into total classic.

Possibly Kate Again (kate), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

due to the overabundance of clowns and mimes lurking in the french quarter, i have been overexposed and have completely overcome my fear of mimes and can almost not shudder when a clown is around. cirque du soleil's allegria show, however, did involve me losing a piece of my soul to the narrator-ish clown. i think it had more to do with him being a dirty carny frenchman than a clown though.

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

"dirty carny frenchman" makes me think of Papa Lazaroux. What category does he fall into?

Jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

the dangers of mine leave one vulnerable to...
http://www.sushiesque.com/photos/dresden_dolls_012504/dscn0700.html
...photographers

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"Vulgar" -- the movie. About a clown who finds the children's party circuit really slim pickings, so he comes up with the idea to add cross-dressing to the act and advertise in the adult backgpages of the city altie. He'ss hired by a couple of white-trash psychopaths modelled on Frank Booth/Dennis Hopper...
and it goes downhill...

George Smith, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm pretty sure i've never actually seen a mime. i used to think they were a myth, like the yeti.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link

And somewhere in Jerry Lewis's house is his copy of The Day The Clown Cried. When, Jerry, when? When do we get to see it?

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

phobias are weird anyway but the clown thing sort of gets me because it's an occupation, right? but people talk about clowns like it's a race?

ARL (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

In 1996, the FBI's Law Enforcement Bulletin published a paper entitled "Trends and Experiences in Computer Crime: Findings From a National Study." It cited a 1995 _April Fool's Day_ article in Datamation magazine as the source for its information on computer viruses.

The April 1, 1995 issue of Datamation featured a column of ridiculous and humorous stories that were clearly April Fool's jokes. (Clear, Crypt News guesses if you're not _too_ asleep at the wheel.) In addition to the virus jokes there is a news brief on the League of Information Systems Professionals or LISP, a "group" working to ensure that "Dilbert" is carried in all local newspapers. LISP is also said to be working for "the reinstatement of the slide rule, especially in belt-mounted leather cases . . ."

If this wasn't sufficiently absurd, consider that the FBI cited
numerous additional Datamation's April Fool's jokes in its national study on computer crime. In addition to joke viruses, the FBI also published news of a government dragnet in which federal agents arrested a dangerously successful hacker gang which victmized mimes.

"The hackers reportedly broke into a NASA computer responsible for controlling the Hubble telescope and are also known to have re-routed telephone calls from the White House to Marcel Marceau University, a miming institute," reads "Trends and Experiences in Computer-Related Crime."

"In one episode, the hackers broke into a NASA computer responsible for controlling the Hubble telescope, aimed the telescope at Earth and then proceeded to spy on a nudist colony near Camden, Maine. In another shocking case, the hackers rerouted telephone calls from the White House to Marcel Marceau University, an institution for mimes, based in Inabox, Montana," reports Datamation in the April Fool's Day issue.

Marty Moore at Datamation magazine laughed on recollection of the April 1, 1995 issue. "You mean someone published the . . . 'Marcel Marceau University' in a paper? Oh, n-o-o-o-o!"


The original on this is long and not overly concerned with mimes although it is a good example of academic and offical stupidity.

www.soci.niu.edu/~crypt/other/quant.htm

George Smith, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

The mime cliche is actually fading a bit as it appears there are less mimes in the news


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jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

unless of course they actually like it when I completely lose my rag and tell them that they're completely annoying the tits off of me

An interviewer from the Guardian asked him about it when he was on a interview tour of England in February and he fell completely silent. Just waited for the next question. You can get copies of the script on-line though - actual physical shooting scripts off eBay, or digital facsimiles, usually for free

yes I am somewhat obsessed by this

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I've read the script. I felt fear.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

(J0hn: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link

When Copy And Paste Falls Into THE WRONG HANDS!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I did notice that but I though it was conceptual at first.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought maybe he was quoting from the interview.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link

No, then that would have to end with a quote saying, "OH MRS. LADY! DOES ANYONE EVER ANNOY THE TITS OFF YOU?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I've tried to make do with getting really really stoned and watching Hardly Working. Where Jerry plays, yes, a clown. (But it isn't much of a substitute.)

http://www.jerrylewiscomedy.com/film_hardly_working.htm

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link

"I made an album in a style I called 'Spooky Kabuki' in Tokyo in 2002."

Of *course* you did

Patrick Kinghorn, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I am a clown. I went to clown classes - my clown name is Mendacity. i have not "clowned" in many years - but still, i feel that you must all know the truth - I AM A CLOWN.

aimurchie, Wednesday, 9 June 2004 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

hahaha

oops

somebody take this vodka away from me b4 things get out of hand

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 01:34 (nineteen years ago) link

When I was very little, a friend convinced me that clowns were born the way they are. Eventually he got me round to the fact they are made in a factory.

This is part of the reason I find them sinister. I always think they must be very sad creatures, doomed from birth to exist as clowns, never to feel the true warmth and love of a family and relying on public self-harm in order to get laughs - the only type of appreciation they have ever received.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 09:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I just need to add, best ILX question in MONTHS.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I am scared witless of clowns, and masks too, so those pierrot masks give me the screaming abdabs.

Madchen to thread (and Jonnie I think - who is also a little petrified of clowns) to verify my screaming like a girl and running away when I spotted a clown stacking shelves in Sainsbury's once

chris (chris), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link


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