RIP GORE VIDAL

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That was even nastier, agree--it was an unprovoked ambush (the infamous insult wasn't, notwithstanding how crude and personal it was), zeroing in on a touchy relationship for Vidal. Somehow he got off a couple of good lines as he eyed the letter.

For me, the link between then and now was handled as well as was needed in the end-credit clips, although I'm pretty well versed in the now. Someone unfamiliar with the Crossfire-type shows might need more.

clemenza, Friday, 21 August 2015 14:26 (eight years ago) link

bringing out the letter is simultaneously so ridiculously vicious and so irrelevant i suspect vidal's little smiles are not forced but restrained. eyeing buckley trying to figure out if he genuinely thinks he's scored a triumph here.

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Friday, 21 August 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

Really I was watching and thinking "How Does he get out of that?" Looked effortless.

Over here you get to be well-versed in the emptiness of these arguments on the news/Question Time (which is worse than ever). What I wanted to see is more analysis of a politics gone completely wrong.

Also wasn't that convinced by Vidal's liberalism. They are too pro-elite, and looking back its the 'expat' jibe that probably made Vidal most uncomfortable. Can totally see why he is not v much read.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 22 August 2015 10:59 (eight years ago) link

he's not?

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 August 2015 14:04 (eight years ago) link

Doesn't feel like it, at least over here.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 22 August 2015 14:33 (eight years ago) link

Vidal's series of novels on American history seem like they'll continue to be read in the USA for at least the next few decades.

Aimless, Saturday, 22 August 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

Definitely

(Burr is great)

Οὖτις, Saturday, 22 August 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

“I am sorry to see Morgan Neville and Robert Gordon’s Best of Enemies being hailed for remembering a golden age when intellectuals fought out profound issues in public,” writes Gary Wills for the New York Review of Books.

Now that I've seen it, I can say Wills is Wrong.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 September 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

I had a couple problems with Best of Enemies. The first is that it is significantly padded, an obvious consequence of having to structure a feature length documentary around whatever the total running time of the debates was (they seemed short; did the film significantly excerpt them?). Most of what the talking heads had to say was just explaining/mildly elaborating on what had just been shown in the film; the linguist (I forget his name) talking about what constitutes profanity then vs. now was by far the most insightful moment. Second, and seemingly less significant but even more annoying to me, is the way that it presents clips from some of Vidal's work. Obviously it is a lot easier to show clips from Myra Breckinridge than to display passages of the novel on film, but by presenting the film as representative of Vidal's work--which it does, mainly by failing to acknowledge that the film was a notorious flop, which Vidal called "an awful joke"--the film implicitly confirms Buckley's dismissal of it. Even more infuriating is the labelling of a clip from Caligula (accompanying someone or other's speech about moral decay) as Gore Vidal's Caligula, which a) the film was never called, and b) Vidal took his name off of once his original scrip was drastically altered. Whether intentional or not, the filmmakers seem okay with equating Vidal with trash without really examining the content of his writing.

The United States of Amnesia, the other Vidal documentary from a few years ago, was way better.

pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:02 (eight years ago) link

I finished Parini's mediocre bio a few days. I didn't Vidal the workaholic was also a functioning alcoholic.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 February 2016 13:19 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Really? "Functioning alcoholic" is the first thing I see when I look at Vidal. Extremely highly functioning yes but it's very clear.

Mr. Hathaway. (jed_), Friday, 15 April 2016 01:53 (eight years ago) link


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