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i'm weighing up the pros and cons of joining the gym again when i move house vs investing in a kettle bell, gym mat, core ball, possibly a TRX system if there's space and a few other bits and bobs and just working out at home.
i'm not terribly interested in getting sw0le per se, just keeping healthy and lean. it could save time and money in the long run, but not sure if i'd realistically have the will power to do regular home workouts, or if i'd get the holistic benefits of the entire gym gamut. the advantage of a gym membership is it forces you to get out the house and work out somewhere away from distractions and just get into the space of 'this is what i'm going to do now for 75 minutes'.

canoon fooder (dog latin), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 10:15 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I can't even force myself to do a few push-ups at home. Go for the gym membership and use the extra space at home for something fun like a library or home theater or something

Evan R, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link

I think the gym is a much better idea. Home workouts only work well for people who are already well into the habit/addiction of working out. There's something about having a separate time/place to do it that makes a huge difference.

I also highly recommend setting a (very light) workout schedule for yourself, like put it on your calendar, Wednesday at noon, Sunday at 2, whatever, and just going at your scheduled times. This has made a huge difference for me in making sure I get into the gym regularly.

Also helps a lot to have a gym bag packed and ready to go in advance. Really anything you can do to make that final moment of getting out the door to the gym less of a decision and more of a response.

five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link

"healthy and lean" is so amorphous an idea--i think you gotta have swoleness or some other benchmark in mind or else working out just feels like punching a clock. imo!

ryan, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 14:13 (eight years ago) link

I used to sort of fear weights/bulking up/building too much muscle mass, but at some point I realized that you have to lift pretty heavy to really bulk up, especially if you're naturally thin-framed (which I'm not fwiw). My 40-50 lb per arm dumbbell presses are not going to turn me into some kind of hulking meathead who can't clap his hands over his head.

five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link

And yeah, if you DON'T do that stuff, you don't see as much visible progress. Seeing some definition in your chest/arms after a month or two of working out is a more concrete reward than just feeling vaguely healthier.

five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link

i work out at home and it's perfect because i can do whatever i want without the discomfort of people looking at me. i'm pretty independently motivated, so that's not a problem. i do calisthenic routine, yoga, dancing, weights 3x a week and i don't think i'm swole but my upper body strength is vastly improved. i can feel it. not sure i can see it, but i don't really want to.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I guess this is one of those things that you have to figure out for yourself -- I can see why some people prefer home workouts and get more exercise that way.

BTW usually when I make progress in my workouts I can feel it in my drumming -- do you find that to be true?

five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

if i study a song while exercising, for sure! physically, idk? i've gotten fast enough that drumming doesn't really require that much strength, more agility.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

I find improved muscle strength helps my speed/agility though. Even in indirect ways, like improved core strength helps me get around the kit better. Also being in shape reduces fatigue for me.

five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link

oh for sure
my answer to everything is to plank more
i have weird new muscles on my forearms from speed practice though -- i don't think it's related to my workouts since the muscles are so small

La Lechera, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

Today's routine:

Warmed up by jumping rope
3x "supersets" of kettlebell vertical pulls into shoulder presses (x10) followed by 10 "navy 8 count" pushups (sort of like a burpee pushup with a couple extra steps)
3x "supersets" of 10 TRX rows followed by 10 TRX squats
3x "supersets" of 10 TRX pushups followed by 10 high box jumps followed by 20 mountain climbers

I was actually pretty bushed and drenched in sweat from that, maybe like 35 mins total.

five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link

"healthy and lean" is so amorphous an idea--i think you gotta have swoleness or some other benchmark in mind or else working out just feels like punching a clock. imo!

― ryan, Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:13 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feel like if you just get into the habit of pushing yrself you dont really need goals, like you just know what it feels like

lag∞n, Saturday, 29 August 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

which is not to say u wont notice that u can lift more run further etc

lag∞n, Saturday, 29 August 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

^^^ troof

I believe I'm at approximately 3 months of 3x per week now, and today I really noticed a difference in my overall fitness -- didn't get winded from the crazy combinations that used to make me want to puke, was doing at least 20% more weight on several exercises without having trouble finishing a set, etc.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

Another interesting thing -- don't know if there is some scientific explanation -- is that my appetite/cravings are changing. I feel less urge to eat sugar and carbs, in fact I feel almost averse to eating too much of them.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link

So I got another free training session, different trainer this time, much better imo. This guy emphasized power-lifting and doing leg day/chest day/back day. The thing is, I don't really have good squat form and I also never learned deadlifting.

BUT, the training sessions are super expensive. No way I can afford the 1x per week regimen the guy tried to sell me on. Could maybe swing 1x per month.

Anyway, I'm wondering if it's possible to learn good squat, deadlift and bench form without a trainer or if it's just a bad idea and asking for injury?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link

You can do it! Just go slow, pay attention to how your body feels, watch videos, use light weight, and focus on things like flexibility and balance. A trainer can't step inside your body so you've got to sorta "find" good form through reps for yourself anyway. It's a journey. Don't go heavy and you won't get hurt.

ryan, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

cool thx! I really liked the dude and he was a great salesman too, but it's just so way beyond my budget it's not even something I can consider. But it does feel like now that I've been at this very consistently for a few months, I am making progress but there is a missing ingredient.

Apparently my hip strength is a weak spot. I never would have known.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link

i have never had a trainer and i think my deadlift form is a+ because there are really so few steps to doing it right. also i cannot recommend goblet squats enough. i am back to barbell squatting now but i think they are more fun. just limited by how heavy of a dumbbell you can carry in your arms (which is part of the fun of it, it works your arms and lats to hoist it off the ground). it really helps your flexibility and hips and teaches you to force your knees out. i do like 5 sets of 5 at 50-55 lbs or so and get so sweaty.

computer champion (harbl), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

gonna try the more strength-oriented program for at least a few weeks I think. Did chest today -- 3 sets bar bench presses, 3 sets incline dumbbell presses, 3 sets cable cross fly, 3 sets bodyweight dips, all 10 reps and at weights where I could barely complete 3 sets of ten. I followed that with some abs and then brief cardio. I definitely feel different after this kind of workout than after my old one -- before I would be sweatier by the end and then leave the gym with a kind of pep in my step, whereas this leaves me feeling a little stiffer and slower, though maybe just getting used to it. OTOH I feel like I'm going to see visible results more quickly with this, like I just feel like I did much more to the muscles I worked, much sorer.

One thing I've noticed about "starting strength" types (from talking to trainers, reading on the internet, etc.) is that they're almost data-oriented -- very focused on numerically measurable results. You get "gains" in weight you can lift, and, for the heavy lifters, in muscle size. I think my personality is a little averse to this -- I like variety, improvisation, and I don't care much about measuring progress as long as I can sense it.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:02 (eight years ago) link


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