Guitar Hero: Nu-Who Season 9

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THis is pretty interesting http://whoniverse.net/tardis
and in the absence of a physical haynes manual type book version answers some of the questions I had anyway.
THe haynes manuals now include a sci fi series including several craft from both Start Trek and Star Wars as well as Thunderbirds and a couple of other famous fantasy tropes.
https://haynes.co.uk/catalog/general-interest-manuals/sci-fi/imperial-death-star-manual
Would love something physical like that since I tend to read that type of thing in locations other than where my computer is.

I'm still wondering how 'real' an object that seems real to the touch in an infinite array of different sizes and shapes can be if its interior is elsewhere in as much as being in a different dimension can be.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 12:15 (eight years ago) link

11 Questions Every Doctor Who Fan Has Asked answered by Steven Moffat
http://www.buzzfeed.com/kmallikarjuna/questions-every-doctor-who-fan-has-answered-by-moffat#.cqdv3Moo5m

since its going around today and i don't think it's been up here so far.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link

those may be the least amusing gifs I've ever seen

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link

It's... possible that was not their intent?

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

rushomancy for some reason I thought that was one of the stories with missing eps but will concede this joke attempt is not as amusing as whenever old clips of the show are aired on screens, holograms etc. in show anyway.

nashwan, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

The scene with the Beatles is removed from US DVDs of The Chase but not UK; s'what I thought you meant

let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Thursday, 24 September 2015 01:46 (eight years ago) link

By the way, I'm assuming what's going to happen re: Clara is that the Doctor will try to kill young Davros in the past to save Clara from being exterminated in the present, but will not be able to, and Clara will then say 'No, I'll agree to be exterminated so that you can avoid killing Davros'.

cardamon, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

Thought that was distinctly unbobbins apart from the sense at the end that nothing had changed re Davros and the Daleks - I was more into the idea he really would die (or even the TL/Dalek hybrid actually happening - tho perhaps Missy goes on to realise this idea - plus was this really the first Davros/Misster meeting??) as it doesn't seem like he's going to appear more often from now on and will the brilliant Julian Bleach be available in another seven years?

nashwan, Saturday, 26 September 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link

Much better this week. Bit of a 7/Ace vibe. What happened to Snake Man at the end?

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 26 September 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link

that was cool except are the ~sunglasses~ really going to be a thing because waht

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 27 September 2015 04:02 (eight years ago) link

It did show the sunglasses in next week's clip at the end. Hope they're not permanent do seem a tad cheesy.
Wonder if this is a permanent new look for him, hoody & all. Do like that he's keeping the Victorian look for jacket and trousers. Though the trouser bottoms do seem overly drained.

People elsewhere are trying to compare speech ability between Clara as daleks. Her just wired into one here and unconsciously being one on her initial introduction in Asylum of The Daleks. I can't remember what of the latter was heard from outside the dalek, so not sure what was filtered into dalek terms. Hadn't realised there was quite that filter system, if there previously was. Is this an attempt to retrofit independent thought into daleks for future use?

Stevolende, Sunday, 27 September 2015 08:07 (eight years ago) link

The sunglasses are a bit Poochy, David Tennanty

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 27 September 2015 09:09 (eight years ago) link

* The Doctor is already responsible for countless deaths, right? So why would not saving one kid in the knowledge that he'll grow up to be Space Hitler be the one thing that makes the Doctor so ashamed he wants to die?

― Tuomas, Monday, September 21, 2015 8:09 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This was a better episode than the last one, but I'm still wondering about this... I thought it'd be revealed in this ep that the Doctor's guilt trip in the previous one was a fake-out, but apparently it was genuine? So the War Doctor (seemingly) commited a genocide of his own people and the Daleks, and yet Nine was able to live with that guilt, but here the Doctor refuses to save one kid (who's deadly situation had nothing to do with the Doctor, he simply refused to help Davros) to stop him from becoming the creator of the Daleks, and somehow that makes the Doctor feel so guilty he contemplates ending his life?

Also, it seemed the Daleks stole quite a lot of regeneration energy from the Doctor, shouldn't that mean something? Will this Doctor now have less regenerations than twelve?

Was it just version I viewed, or did this episode look incredibly murky and washed out of colour? I didn't like that at all, it made it feel like a "realistic" war movie or something, instead of sci-fi show about a time traveling alien in a police box.

Tuomas, Sunday, 27 September 2015 12:15 (eight years ago) link

lso, it seemed the Daleks stole quite a lot of regeneration energy from the Doctor, shouldn't that mean something? Will this Doctor now have less regenerations than twelve?
― Tuomas, Sunday, September 27, 2015 1:15 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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yeah I wondered about that. Assuming that he has another sequence of 12 regenerations does it take outof that. Also assumes that the Doctor always has the energy for whatever regenerations he will have to go through on him at all times. & I've not seen wheter or not that's ever been made clear. Only seems to come into play when he needs to regenerate so hard to tell. Never sure if it is something inherent to him or something he needs to tap into from some other source at the time of regeneration. Or that would normally only be there to tap into when he needs to regenerate. So need to rewatch this to see what triggered his ability to have it at hand, not sure what has happened just before his hand starts glowing green other than some spiel from Davros.

Stevolende, Sunday, 27 September 2015 12:50 (eight years ago) link

In Let's Save Hitler, River was able to give the Doctor her regeneration energy at will, so at least it's established one can do that... But yeah, I didn't like that solution either, it's too much a gamebreaker, basically it should mean the Doctor can save anyone who's about to die with a wave of his hand. And yet I'll bet we'll never see him actually do that, because it'd take away from the drama.

Tuomas, Sunday, 27 September 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link

River had only just regenerated from Mel at the time though. So it would explain that there might be excess regenerative power or that the regenerative power source could be tapped into during a finite period around that regeneration (if I'm thinking right, since i just remembered that the show takes place over a broken time period, though Mel/River as the individual might just be the focus of where the regenerative power would be. So it would go back in time with her, can't remember at what point she regenerates there though).
& I can't remember if anything has actually physically happened to the Doctor in yesterday's episode other than him having listened to Davros. & the closest regeneration is a series and an unknown time interval away.

Stevolende, Sunday, 27 September 2015 14:00 (eight years ago) link

Forgot to add that when Tennant had just regenerated he had his hand cut off and it regenerated because of this excess regenerative power around the time of the regeneration. that hand goes onto being significant in several places in Who & Torchwood after that , eventually becoming the clone that winds up with Rose.
I think the Doctor may say something about the time around the regeneration at that point, but it has been a while since I watched teh episode

Stevolende, Sunday, 27 September 2015 14:04 (eight years ago) link

sidebar for USAians who still have cable- BBCAmerica is showing Tom Baker Who stories every morning at 7am pst :D

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 27 September 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

last week I watched this on BBCAmerica for maybe the first time as first run and the video quality looked horrible; this week I went back to torrenting it early from the UK and it looked much better. Anyone else notice this?

akm, Sunday, 27 September 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link

I've seen people trying to work out if Clara in the Witch's Familiar had less control over what was being said through the dalek she was wearing than when she was first introduced as the not-consciously dalek in Asylum of The Daleks.

I don't think I'd seen the same idea that any idea of individuality was actually filtered out by the interface with the exo-skeleton. Which might indicate that there was more individuality and independence existent in individual daleks just niot getting out because their only means of expression was expressed by that interface.
Not watched Asylum of the Daleks in a while so not sure how much of that was the inner consciousness of a girl who had been transferred into a dalek and how much she was trying to express, or indeed how much was being expressed through the dalek. Or what it came out as.

Stevolende, Sunday, 27 September 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link

last week I watched this on BBCAmerica for maybe the first time as first run and the video quality looked horrible; this week I went back to torrenting it early from the UK and it looked much better. Anyone else notice this?

― akm, Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think this has to do with PAL v NTSC and the way HD transfers. Could be wrong though.

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 28 September 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link

Wait, if it's shown repeatedly that these Daleks can fly and get on with their own bizarre, why would be NB attached form underground matter? Couldn't they just, you know, fly away?

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 28 September 2015 10:57 (eight years ago) link

Proofread version:

Wait, if it's shown repeatedly that the Daleks can fly and get on with their own bizness, why would being attacked from underground matter - can't they just fly away?

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 28 September 2015 10:58 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I thought that was a decent idea in principle but quite poorly realised - some mud comes out of some vents, then the Daleks all start spazzing out.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 28 September 2015 11:11 (eight years ago) link

All in all a good episode though, even did a half decent job of convincing me that Dave Ross' motives were pure.

The snake man is a silly character, though I guess Doctor Who does have a proud tradition of unrealistic looking serpents.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 28 September 2015 11:14 (eight years ago) link

The Daleks can fly, but presumably they need to get into the open first of all. In a low ceiling-ed room there's no where to escape, as it'll just fill up with goo.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Monday, 28 September 2015 11:34 (eight years ago) link

Obviously many of them escaped and are presumably plotting something with Missy

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Monday, 28 September 2015 11:46 (eight years ago) link

I think Missy is my favourite ever Master incarnation.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 28 September 2015 11:55 (eight years ago) link

i don't quite get why sludge undead daleks were so mad

akm, Monday, 28 September 2015 13:33 (eight years ago) link

I guess Daleks are always angry, and they had had no outlet for it since loosing their murder shells?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 28 September 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link

i don't get why they're attacking the other daleks though. pissed they were relegated to the sewer?

akm, Monday, 28 September 2015 13:42 (eight years ago) link

I think mostly it's just funny to watch them overflowing with goo and then exploding.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 28 September 2015 14:17 (eight years ago) link

Wanted more! The exploding Dalek is the best bit in the 50th episode.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 28 September 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link

we need a capaldi deal with it sunglasses gif

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 September 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link

Viewers in their millions deserted Doctor Who as it returned to BBC One for a new series, according to overnight figures.

― Cosmic Slop, Monday, September 21, 2015 1:35 AM (1 week ago)

Aw, dammit. NO MORE SEXY DOCTORS

― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, September 21, 2015 2:01 AM (1 week ago)

bound to be if ratings dont pick up

― Cosmic Slop, Monday, September 21, 2015 2:04 AM (1 week ago)

On finals, this turned out to be .4 million down on last series' average, be the fourth-highest BBC programme for the entire week, place somewhere from 11th to 13th most-watched programme in the entire country for the week, and get an additional 1.3 million on iPlayer that isn't counted by BARB.

Cosmic Slop is thus saying that the BBC would sack Capaldi midstream and pay him out of the next year of his contract because this show was only the 11th-highest-rated show of the week. If you have a look at how many of the 12th-to-400th top programmes of the week routinely fire their sole recurring leads for, effectively, not being live competition shows and choosing their own airtime, you can probably put any future ratings handwringing ITT in perspective before it happens.

let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Monday, 28 September 2015 18:07 (eight years ago) link

lol

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 28 September 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link

whew i was worried

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 September 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

Rugby World Cup biting into the figures somewhat as well, I'd guess. Just on social media, I'm noticing otherwise-sane people professing to enjoy it, while sitting here being slowly traumatised by the animated advert of giant, silent England rugby players* walking through a town.

*If these were the RTD years, you could virtually guarantee that giant, silent rugby players FROM SPACE would be the Aliums of the Week.

voodoo rage (suzy), Monday, 28 September 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

I still agree with DJP

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link

my comment really should be read as more of a truism than anything else

sexy Doctors ruin everything

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 28 September 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link

i like all the doctors in nu-who tbh. Its shitty stories ruin everything

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

but yeah capaldi is my fave now

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

Moffat should've persisted with the nu-Daleks. Everyone may predictably and boringly think they look stupid but bearing in mind this ep actually bothered to include the utterly rubbish-looking Battle/Special Weapons Dalek in a few shots I think a better excuse for this backdown is required (a Dalek civil war between them and all the rest might be fun).

nashwan, Monday, 28 September 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link

Aw I like the special weapons Dalek.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 28 September 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link

Special Weapons Dalek rules, and is utterly terrifying in the novel

there are p much always Dalek Civil Wars going on

let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 06:07 (eight years ago) link

This was fun. For a second I thought they would do more with the Clara Dalek, possibly leaving her to be trapped and rescued by the Doctor at another time (was that a 11th Doctor story?) but I guess it would make him look a bit stupid and we can't have that.

Davros really worked those acting chops. If the Daleks ever get tired of exterminating he should go in for line reads.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

Part 2 redeemed part 1, particularly with all of the Doctor/Davros double-crossing and Clara getting stuck in a Dalek

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

Also... Clara seems better suited to be paired with Missy than either incarnation of the Doctor that she's traveled with; I would watch so much of their bickering/attempts to kill each other

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link


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