cad what do u think of jack's abbey (speaking of lagers)
― marcos, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link
My favorite brewery in LA is probably Beachwood.
The recent AB acquisitions are just so mild and unoffensive. Say what you want about Goose Island, but their barrel program is pretty phenomenal and a class or five above anything from Golden Road, 10 Barrel & Elysian.
St Archer (the Miller/Coors acquisition) is pretty average/forgettable.
Lagunitas' deal seems more like a distro deal for Europe/global than any sort of management influence, in fact, the contract language I skimmed said as much: the NA operations are unaffected by this deal.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link
― marcos, Wednesday, September 23, 2015 4:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
jack's abbey is.....adequate? i can't remember the last time i picked up their beer when i had other choices, but it's all pretty good.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
CAD sent me a BA Framinghammer from Jack's Abbey that was pretty tasty.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link
yeah that is a nice beer; they do another seasonal called kiwi rising which i like a lot. more their regular lineup that i pass over.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link
yea agree with that assessment cad
― marcos, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 23:17 (eight years ago) link
nothing is bad from them, they are v competent but nothing really is really must-buy
― marcos, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link
mmm drinking a Firestone pilsner, really good - never tried it before.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 23:40 (eight years ago) link
I've been buying a lot of Two Brothers beers lately, mostly their Dortmunder and Extra Pale. They're the most reliably fresh offerings at my neighborhood grocery store which is pretty much the thing I care most about any more... Although they did have random 4 packs of that New Holland Night Tripper recently.
― ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Thursday, 24 September 2015 03:24 (eight years ago) link
I did also splurge for a Revolution BA scotch ale, Gravedigger Billy, last week but haven't found a good time to crack it open yet.
― ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Thursday, 24 September 2015 03:27 (eight years ago) link
Ninkasi to expand into Maryland, DC, VA
http://www.ninkasibrewing.com/news/blogs/press-blog/2015/09/23/ninkasi-brewing-company-expands-east-coast-distribution/?ageVerified=defaultValue
― sleeve, Friday, 25 September 2015 14:20 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, the Pivo Pils is one of the better American craft pilsners I've tasted. Hits that difficult balance of flavor, body, carbonation and crispness. Nothing really jumps out on first sip, but it goes down very easy.
― o. nate, Monday, 28 September 2015 03:33 (eight years ago) link
http://www.gooseisland.com/rareday.html
$60 a bottle.
― Jeff, Monday, 28 September 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link
that...is not going to go over well
― call all destroyer, Monday, 28 September 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
2010 Rare was $45-50 iirc... but that was Pappy.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 28 September 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
bigger bottle too right?
― call all destroyer, Monday, 28 September 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link
Weird shaped bottle, I want to say. Like, smaller than a bomber but bigger than the 12oz bottles? At least that's the case for the rest of them. No longer 4-packs? Pretty lame all around, I think. I think the small/regular bottles are great to share.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 September 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link
The $60 is straight from goose too. Can't wait to see the markups the corner liquor stores around here give it.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/joshbnoel/status/648628825518006272https://twitter.com/joshbnoel/status/648629012713963520
― Jeff, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 00:50 (eight years ago) link
Rare sat on shelves at $45, I think it was even marked down in some markets after a few months.
New era, new problems.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 01:12 (eight years ago) link
lame
pretty much covers it
― ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 13:31 (eight years ago) link
the attention goose bcbs gets seems so inflated, is it really that good? barrel-aged stouts are everywhere these days, how much better is this beer?
― marcos, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link
Probably my favorite beer of all time, FWIW.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link
But there is plenty of amazing stuff out there, for sure.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link
it's better than anything that sits around on shelves imo
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link
I brought a couple of BCS bottles to our block party this past weekend and shared them with neighbors, one of whom (a UK beer guy) knew of the beer but had never had it, the other of whom had never even heard of it. The former was blown away, and the latter so impressed her first reaction was (almost literally) "OMG, this is incredible, I have to go to the store tomorrow and buy this for my husband!" I had to give her the bad news.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link
the attention goose bcbs gets seems so inflated, is it really that good? barrel-aged stouts are everywhere these days, how much better is this beer?― marcos, Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:56 AM (57 minutes ago)
― marcos, Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:56 AM (57 minutes ago)
New era problems! Goose Island invented the bourbon barrel aged stout 23 years ago.
The first edition of Rare in 2010 was the base stout aged for 2 years in Pappy Van Winkle 23* barrels.
*PvW23 is perhaps the most elusive and desired bourbons in the world, a single bottle costs a fortune: http://www.wine-searcher.com/find/old+rip+van+winkel+pappy+fmly+rsrv+23+straight+bourbon+whisky+kentucky+usa/0
This new 2015 Rare was aged for 2 years in 33- to 35 year old Heaven Hill (Elijah Craig, Evan Williams, Rittenhouse, etc.) barrels discovered in an abandoned wherehouse. Why no more Pappy barrels? They are extinct, no more barrels are available as they've all been repurposed.
So yes, what you say is true: There are plenty of bourbon barrel stouts these days. And BCBS is one of the best BBA stouts that gets distro (FW Parabola is another imho).
But the beer being discussed yesterday (BCBS Rare) is on a completely different level than BCBS. I had a decent pour of the 2010 Rare at a friend's birthday party a couple months ago and it might be my favorite BBA stout I've ever tasted.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link
Wow, this year:
http://www.brewbound.com/news/dogfish-head-sells-15-percent-stake-to-lnk-partners
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link
xp yeah 2010 rare was incredible. this new edition being its equal is anything but a slam dunk. those are some really, really old barrels.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link
And to think they used to saw these barrels in half and sell them at garden stores.
― nickn, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link
Topical post on the cost and labor going into BCBS Rare:
http://goodbeerhunting.com/blog/2015/9/30/critical-drinking-what-beer-costs-why-we-need-more-flexibility-in-the-market
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link
You can buy a great bottle of bourbon for $60.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link
xp that's a good post but i do wonder how much inbev is influencing the pricing and the format change and if they're the people i want to be changing the perception of what beer should cost
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link
I can't help it, I don't want to hear this kind of analysis from someone getting paid (in any way) by Goose Island.
Also get a copyeditor, it looks like you rushed that post out to counter backlash.
― ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Thursday, 1 October 2015 00:11 (eight years ago) link
And unique bottles are not a necessary component of this beer imo, a needless expense.
― ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Thursday, 1 October 2015 00:12 (eight years ago) link
Had New Belgium's Le Terroir yesterday, which was great. Sour and sweet and bitter all in one beer!
― first it smells like donuts, then it smells like don't ask (askance johnson), Monday, March 7, 2011 12:54 PM (4 years ago)
I know new Belgium lips of faith is like 95% bullshit, but you guys, this le terroir dry hopped sour ale is so so fantastic. Like a sour mixed with a goze?
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, September 14, 2013 8:30 PM (2 years ago)
There's a convenience store/lunch place in Tupelo with a serious beer evangelist building up a great stock -- he seems to be there 24/7, educating the shit out of everybody who will stand still for it. Anyway I was in there Friday looking for something interesting and new and picked up a bottle of Le Terroir, and he snuck up behind me and said "I just tapped a keg of that if you want a growler for 13 instead of that bottle for 15." OH SHIIIIIIIIIIT IT'S SO GOOD.
― Exit, pursued by Yogi Berra (WilliamC), Sunday, 4 October 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
Currently enjoying a 3Floyds/Gigantic Crescendo of Doom Tactical Lager. Love the collaboration between these breweries that has grown out of mutual soccer fandom.
http://brewpublic.com/beer-personalities/gigantic-brewing-3-floyds-brewing-collaborate-on-crescendo-of-doom/
― ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Sunday, 4 October 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link
Bought a bottle of Pipeworks Sure Bet, sounds like a sure bet.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 4 October 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
Not one of my favorite of the fish series. But enjoyable.
― Jeff, Sunday, 4 October 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link
Not a fish though, it's a barfing unicorn!
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 4 October 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link
True. I guess I mean the double IPA series with honey and other stuff added to it.
― Jeff, Monday, 5 October 2015 00:03 (eight years ago) link
Many of which have fish on the labels.
― Jeff, Monday, 5 October 2015 00:05 (eight years ago) link
Kelso Pilsner seems like a pretty decent, drinkable, milder pilsner - goes well with food. I'm a big fan of cans for the convenience factor.
― o. nate, Monday, 5 October 2015 01:36 (eight years ago) link
this is such a dorky rec but the sierra nevada collab oktoberfest is just excellent.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 01:18 (eight years ago) link
Long Trail Limbo IPA in bottles in my local grocer!! Stoked. The guy across the street at the premium mennonite organic place swears by Dirt Wolf but this is better for my money.
― BRAAAAAAMETHEUS (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 01:21 (eight years ago) link
This just in, Surly Wet despite making me furious wrt price is as usual super super awesome
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 01:42 (eight years ago) link
The Longoing Trail Harvest ale is really good. Malty and smooth and a little sweet. And only 4.4%! God I love Fall.
― Modern French Music from Failure to Boulez (askance johnson), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 01:48 (eight years ago) link
Xp I'm going to be in the cities this weekend, where can I find it?
― ive reddit all your posts and I want a crowdfund (dan m), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 03:13 (eight years ago) link
Any pro-tips on Hill Farmstead visits/general Vermontry?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 05:19 (eight years ago) link
I can probably hold a 4 pack at my local, but I'll only trade that for a beer nerd hangout xp
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 06:10 (eight years ago) link