Guitar Hero: Nu-Who Season 9

It did show the sunglasses in next week's clip at the end. Hope they're not permanent do seem a tad cheesy.
Wonder if this is a permanent new look for him, hoody & all. Do like that he's keeping the Victorian look for jacket and trousers. Though the trouser bottoms do seem overly drained.

People elsewhere are trying to compare speech ability between Clara as daleks. Her just wired into one here and unconsciously being one on her initial introduction in Asylum of The Daleks. I can't remember what of the latter was heard from outside the dalek, so not sure what was filtered into dalek terms. Hadn't realised there was quite that filter system, if there previously was. Is this an attempt to retrofit independent thought into daleks for future use?

The sunglasses are a bit Poochy, David Tennanty

* The Doctor is already responsible for countless deaths, right? So why would not saving one kid in the knowledge that he'll grow up to be Space Hitler be the one thing that makes the Doctor so ashamed he wants to die?

― Tuomas, Monday, September 21, 2015 8:09 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This was a better episode than the last one, but I'm still wondering about this... I thought it'd be revealed in this ep that the Doctor's guilt trip in the previous one was a fake-out, but apparently it was genuine? So the War Doctor (seemingly) commited a genocide of his own people and the Daleks, and yet Nine was able to live with that guilt, but here the Doctor refuses to save one kid (who's deadly situation had nothing to do with the Doctor, he simply refused to help Davros) to stop him from becoming the creator of the Daleks, and somehow that makes the Doctor feel so guilty he contemplates ending his life?

Also, it seemed the Daleks stole quite a lot of regeneration energy from the Doctor, shouldn't that mean something? Will this Doctor now have less regenerations than twelve?

Was it just version I viewed, or did this episode look incredibly murky and washed out of colour? I didn't like that at all, it made it feel like a "realistic" war movie or something, instead of sci-fi show about a time traveling alien in a police box.

lso, it seemed the Daleks stole quite a lot of regeneration energy from the Doctor, shouldn't that mean something? Will this Doctor now have less regenerations than twelve?
― Tuomas, Sunday, September 27, 2015 1:15 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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yeah I wondered about that. Assuming that he has another sequence of 12 regenerations does it take outof that. Also assumes that the Doctor always has the energy for whatever regenerations he will have to go through on him at all times. & I've not seen wheter or not that's ever been made clear. Only seems to come into play when he needs to regenerate so hard to tell. Never sure if it is something inherent to him or something he needs to tap into from some other source at the time of regeneration. Or that would normally only be there to tap into when he needs to regenerate. So need to rewatch this to see what triggered his ability to have it at hand, not sure what has happened just before his hand starts glowing green other than some spiel from Davros.

In Let's Save Hitler, River was able to give the Doctor her regeneration energy at will, so at least it's established one can do that... But yeah, I didn't like that solution either, it's too much a gamebreaker, basically it should mean the Doctor can save anyone who's about to die with a wave of his hand. And yet I'll bet we'll never see him actually do that, because it'd take away from the drama.

River had only just regenerated from Mel at the time though. So it would explain that there might be excess regenerative power or that the regenerative power source could be tapped into during a finite period around that regeneration (if I'm thinking right, since i just remembered that the show takes place over a broken time period, though Mel/River as the individual might just be the focus of where the regenerative power would be. So it would go back in time with her, can't remember at what point she regenerates there though).
& I can't remember if anything has actually physically happened to the Doctor in yesterday's episode other than him having listened to Davros. & the closest regeneration is a series and an unknown time interval away.

Forgot to add that when Tennant had just regenerated he had his hand cut off and it regenerated because of this excess regenerative power around the time of the regeneration. that hand goes onto being significant in several places in Who & Torchwood after that , eventually becoming the clone that winds up with Rose.
I think the Doctor may say something about the time around the regeneration at that point, but it has been a while since I watched teh episode

sidebar for USAians who still have cable- BBCAmerica is showing Tom Baker Who stories every morning at 7am pst :D

last week I watched this on BBCAmerica for maybe the first time as first run and the video quality looked horrible; this week I went back to torrenting it early from the UK and it looked much better. Anyone else notice this?

I've seen people trying to work out if Clara in the Witch's Familiar had less control over what was being said through the dalek she was wearing than when she was first introduced as the not-consciously dalek in Asylum of The Daleks.

I don't think I'd seen the same idea that any idea of individuality was actually filtered out by the interface with the exo-skeleton. Which might indicate that there was more individuality and independence existent in individual daleks just niot getting out because their only means of expression was expressed by that interface.
Not watched Asylum of the Daleks in a while so not sure how much of that was the inner consciousness of a girl who had been transferred into a dalek and how much she was trying to express, or indeed how much was being expressed through the dalek. Or what it came out as.

last week I watched this on BBCAmerica for maybe the first time as first run and the video quality looked horrible; this week I went back to torrenting it early from the UK and it looked much better. Anyone else notice this?

― akm, Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think this has to do with PAL v NTSC and the way HD transfers. Could be wrong though.

Wait, if it's shown repeatedly that these Daleks can fly and get on with their own bizarre, why would be NB attached form underground matter? Couldn't they just, you know, fly away?

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Wait, if it's shown repeatedly that the Daleks can fly and get on with their own bizness, why would being attacked from underground matter - can't they just fly away?

Yeah I thought that was a decent idea in principle but quite poorly realised - some mud comes out of some vents, then the Daleks all start spazzing out.

All in all a good episode though, even did a half decent job of convincing me that Dave Ross' motives were pure.

The snake man is a silly character, though I guess Doctor Who does have a proud tradition of unrealistic looking serpents.

The Daleks can fly, but presumably they need to get into the open first of all. In a low ceiling-ed room there's no where to escape, as it'll just fill up with goo.

Obviously many of them escaped and are presumably plotting something with Missy

I think Missy is my favourite ever Master incarnation.

i don't quite get why sludge undead daleks were so mad

I guess Daleks are always angry, and they had had no outlet for it since loosing their murder shells?

i don't get why they're attacking the other daleks though. pissed they were relegated to the sewer?

I think mostly it's just funny to watch them overflowing with goo and then exploding.

Wanted more! The exploding Dalek is the best bit in the 50th episode.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/7d4cb891984b2bdfcb234ca174bb18ff/tumblr_mwuy94VD3s1qbypg1o1_500.gif

we need a capaldi deal with it sunglasses gif

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/sep/28/slipknots-corey-taylor-supplies-monster-scream-to-this-weeks-doctor-who

Viewers in their millions deserted Doctor Who as it returned to BBC One for a new series, according to overnight figures.

― Cosmic Slop, Monday, September 21, 2015 1:35 AM (1 week ago)

Aw, dammit. NO MORE SEXY DOCTORS

― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, September 21, 2015 2:01 AM (1 week ago)

bound to be if ratings dont pick up

― Cosmic Slop, Monday, September 21, 2015 2:04 AM (1 week ago)

On finals, this turned out to be .4 million down on last series' average, be the fourth-highest BBC programme for the entire week, place somewhere from 11th to 13th most-watched programme in the entire country for the week, and get an additional 1.3 million on iPlayer that isn't counted by BARB.

Cosmic Slop is thus saying that the BBC would sack Capaldi midstream and pay him out of the next year of his contract because this show was only the 11th-highest-rated show of the week. If you have a look at how many of the 12th-to-400th top programmes of the week routinely fire their sole recurring leads for, effectively, not being live competition shows and choosing their own airtime, you can probably put any future ratings handwringing ITT in perspective before it happens.

lol

whew i was worried

Rugby World Cup biting into the figures somewhat as well, I'd guess. Just on social media, I'm noticing otherwise-sane people professing to enjoy it, while sitting here being slowly traumatised by the animated advert of giant, silent England rugby players* walking through a town.

*If these were the RTD years, you could virtually guarantee that giant, silent rugby players FROM SPACE would be the Aliums of the Week.

I still agree with DJP

my comment really should be read as more of a truism than anything else

sexy Doctors ruin everything

i like all the doctors in nu-who tbh. Its shitty stories ruin everything

but yeah capaldi is my fave now

Moffat should've persisted with the nu-Daleks. Everyone may predictably and boringly think they look stupid but bearing in mind this ep actually bothered to include the utterly rubbish-looking Battle/Special Weapons Dalek in a few shots I think a better excuse for this backdown is required (a Dalek civil war between them and all the rest might be fun).

Aw I like the special weapons Dalek.

Special Weapons Dalek rules, and is utterly terrifying in the novel

there are p much always Dalek Civil Wars going on

This was fun. For a second I thought they would do more with the Clara Dalek, possibly leaving her to be trapped and rescued by the Doctor at another time (was that a 11th Doctor story?) but I guess it would make him look a bit stupid and we can't have that.

Davros really worked those acting chops. If the Daleks ever get tired of exterminating he should go in for line reads.

Part 2 redeemed part 1, particularly with all of the Doctor/Davros double-crossing and Clara getting stuck in a Dalek

Also... Clara seems better suited to be paired with Missy than either incarnation of the Doctor that she's traveled with; I would watch so much of their bickering/attempts to kill each other

Very nearly as good as Jo Grant having to team up with Missy after he tries to kill her, the viewer also knowing that the next double-cross can only be an episode away

The Dalek Interface was fantastic, more Grant Morrison than Geoff Johns - a brilliant idea that you'd imagine the regular staff would grumble about having to fit in next time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/entries/953c5b1f-3cc8-4db9-8184-f1b6567260f1
Spin off to be filmed next year. Set in Coal Hill school, so i'm wondering if this si the class that we've already met.
Also just occurring to me that since Clara is teaching there she might just be moving onto this, don't know though. NOt exactly going to be sad to see her go anyway.

The Dalek Interface was fantastic, more Grant Morrison than Geoff Johns

is this a Titan comic or...?

I'm assuming that dalek interface is either the suit/casing filtering what can be said by the individual dalek or the wiring going straight into the lobes. Is the latter the cause of the former? Not having direct input from all parts of the brain? &having what input was coming filtering through the parts directly connected to?
I can't remember the supposed layout of the brain as to movement, creativity, language etc or is that getting too close to phrenology.

Anyway people on other lists were wondering if there had been a change in the interface since Clara's first appearance in Asylum of the Daleks. Was the souffle bit totally internal or something she was able to express through the suit.
Does the Witch's Familiar allow for more of an intermal dalek life than just thinking of hate and extermination. Though long term wear would probably lead to very blinkered/brainwashed thought. As would coming from the culture.
How does the nature vs nurture argument work with dalek upbringing?

Maybe the spinoff will feature Martha, the Coal Hill student who appeared in a few episodes last season? I thought she was pretty cool, was disappointed we didn't see her after "Kill the Moon".

Courtney was the student.

I noticed that Clara was encased in the only non-glowy Dalek, and the camera lingered on the non-glow very pointedly. Still, she could've had a dose of Dalek cooties to become what Missy called 'the enemy inside the friend'. We shall see.

I think its her class that's in the Woods with the Doctor in that episode where the trees pop up over night so that is the same class I was referring to. I don't think much is known at the moment beyond that.
Other than writer is Philip Ness and it's supposed to9 fit a niche about halfway between Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood.

From Radio Times, which I'm assumimng is still a pretty central if not the immediate source
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-10-01/11-questions-and-some-answers-about-doctor-who-spin-off-class

That wasn't Courtney's class; IIRC those kids were several years younger.

Right, haven't rewatched it yet.
THought they had established a class. Possibly the one that Clara mainly taught.
Since it doesn't film until next year it may be more likely that it would bea younger class. But not sure what they're thinking.
Author is normally Young Adult, but programme might want to have the possibility of following a certain bunch of kids over a longer period? Obviously if it merely covers pupils from a school it could be covering several forms, though the singular class of the title might make that unlikely.
Things will be revealed next year I guess.

Meanwhile I might get around to watching that episode again.