Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

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Corbyn-like govt written about favourably in the Torygraph because its the Euro Union stopping them from power.

I'm not a fan of AEP but he has at least been more or less consistently anti-austerity, in the Eurozone at least. FFS he even wrote this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11869701/Jeremy-Corbyns-QE-for-the-people-is-exactly-what-the-world-may-soon-need.html

I'm not sure if the Barclay Brothers are that arsed if Portugal (or indeed any European country other than maybe Greece and France) elects a socialist government. They just don't want Britain doing so. I'm guessing their foreign reporters still have an element of free reign if it doesn't directly contradict the main editorial line.

Matt DC, Saturday, 24 October 2015 10:35 (eight years ago) link

What about Spain? Its contagion isn't it? That risk of Europe blowing up - or eventually groups forming within the European Union that will shift austerity politics out of the way, which would fall in line w/current Lab leadership.

Nothing on this in the front page of The Guardian. Useless.

This is something on the context that I'm skimming now: https://www.opendemocracy.net/can-europe-make-it/joana-ramiro/good-student-of-europe-at-dead-end

Bullough's Let Our Fame Be Great is really good but his politics are about as naive and nuance-free as Milne's.

Right - because that was pathetic. Just picture him sitting at 3am considering as to whether he'd join Corbyn's Labour. All those weeks before and after the leadership vote, before Milne's appointment! Casting this as 'this is where something broke for good' is laughable.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 October 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link

This Portugal story does need more reporting, or maybe the lack of suggests there isn't much there...but given what happened to Greece...

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 October 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link

Martin Amis, "a leading figure on the British Left" (have actually been laughing at this all morning) hates him, as he is uneducated.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 25 October 2015 09:54 (eight years ago) link

Sunday Times headline! bizarre in so many ways.

Fizzles, Sunday, 25 October 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link

Interesting letter from Paul Jenkins in the Guardian:

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/oct/25/international-law-and-the-ministerial-code?CMP=share_btn_tw

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Monday, 26 October 2015 08:27 (eight years ago) link

i was just reading that - easy to picture the intense irritation and equally easy to comprehend the way that's converted into handwaving 'nbd just cleaning up the language' by cameron. dismissiveness about detail -legal or otherwise - as pedantry is a hallmark of his PM rhetorical style.

xyzzzz__ - fairly well-publicised piece on Portugal here.

Fizzles, Monday, 26 October 2015 09:21 (eight years ago) link

That's a great piece, cuts through a lot of the froth.

Matt DC, Monday, 26 October 2015 10:04 (eight years ago) link

Martin Amis, "a leading figure on the British Left"

XD

"prominent socialist sympathiser Dennis Wheatley..."

Estonians from the future (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 26 October 2015 11:26 (eight years ago) link

Thanks Fizzles - that account mirrors this other one, except it criticises the President's speech in stronger terms.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 October 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link

Undemocratic institution defies elected government hilarity

systems drinking (Noodle Vague), Monday, 26 October 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link

i am absolutely loving this story tbh

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 08:35 (eight years ago) link

The fuckers could have taken it upon themselves to reform the Lords at some point in the last four years but oh that would have been too terrible to bear.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 09:43 (eight years ago) link

When it comes to enjoying the public humiliation of a hubristic ARSE, Osborne even has Mourinho beat.

Riga Tony (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 10:09 (eight years ago) link

After months of attempts to block the reforms, Mr Duncan Smith lost his temper when he heard a member of his team rowing on the phone with a Treasury official, The Times reported. He grabbed the receiver and shouted down the line: ‘If you ever speak to my officials like that again I’ll bite your balls off and send them to you in a box.’

The newspaper also claimed Mr Duncan Smith cancelled the security pass of a Downing Street official to stop them entering his department. Sources suggested Mr Duncan Smith did not use the word 'bite' but aides refused to comment on the reports of the call which is thought to have happened in 2010.

nashwan, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 10:14 (eight years ago) link

I read that as 'apartment' and thought 'fair enough'..

Carry on..

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 11:34 (eight years ago) link

How many puppets does Gideon need to get this through?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 12:08 (eight years ago) link

Desperately want to penalise the working poor? Send for Lloyd Webber!

Riga Tony (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11957216/Jeremy-Corbyn-is-too-thick-to-be-Prime-Minister.html

Are kids doing 12 A Levels these days?!

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link

xp
"he feels that it is important for democracy that the House of Lords should not override decisions made by the elected House of Commons" That reads about as true as someone saying "A lifetime Cats season ticket? Fuck Yeah!" or "Andrew Lloyd Webber? Fucking love the guy".

xelab, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link

(xp) Here's hoping John Major doesn't read that.

Riga Tony (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

After all, Amis has a first-class honours degree from Oxford. Which rather exquisitely proves the point.

this person is taking the piss, surely

soref, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

also, John Prescott has a degree from the University of Hull

soref, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

if we're going to start judging politicians on their education, let's not forget ian duncan smith's impressively bullshit-packed cv - didn't he claim he'd gotten a degree from a college which didn't offer degrees and that he'd gotten heavyweight qualifications from somewhere else based on a few days' training? at least corbyn's honest about being academically unaccomplished...

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link

ian Duncan smith claimed he attended a university in Italy when in fact he'd taken a week of Italian classes at an unconnected language school in the same city iirc.

main hilarious thing about ian duncan smith is that his name is ian smith and he clearly insists on the use of his middle name at all times because it makes him sound posher, like he had a double barreled surname.

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link

this person is taking the piss, surely

It's Angela Epstein, so, no.

Riga Tony (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

(x-post)

And maybe to distance himself from the other, even worse, Ian Smith.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 04:27 (eight years ago) link

I think his surname is actually 'Duncan Smith'? his father was this bloke:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._G._G._Duncan_Smith

soref, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link

Hyphenate or gtfo, frankly.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 04:40 (eight years ago) link

reading IDS's wikipedia page, I had completely forgotten that he published a novel within weeks of being ousted as tory leader

soref, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 04:53 (eight years ago) link

Did anyone read it? (here or in general)

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 05:06 (eight years ago) link

no

Mark G, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 07:26 (eight years ago) link

now very tempted.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 10:14 (eight years ago) link

One for ILB.

Riga Tony (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 10:39 (eight years ago) link

that telegraph article is full of mistakes and errors…and then that final poll! either epstein is taking the piss or the subeditors are

twunty fifteen (imago), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 10:43 (eight years ago) link

Possibly the latter, definitely not the former.

Riga Tony (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 10:56 (eight years ago) link

The Telegraph is barely even a newspaper any more.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 11:13 (eight years ago) link

PMs should either: have 12 As at A-level or be the type of person that can't wait to get out there in the Labour Party real world.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 12:34 (eight years ago) link

IDS' novel has never been published in paperback, so might be hard to find, I'll have a look for it in the British Library catalogue later... not promising I'll read it though!

Riga Tony (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 13:19 (eight years ago) link

there's an extract towards the bottom of this guardian article:

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2003/nov/05/fiction.conservatives

soref, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

http://dl.book4you.org/foreignfiction/767000/0923776b0576ed9e7f7dace9b8b11197.txt/_as/[Smith_Iain_Duncan]_The_Devil's_Tune(Bokos-Z1).txt

You can read his magnum opus at this TXT link, he would require some improvement to get to the level of literary geniuses like say Jeffrey Archer or Morrissey.

xelab, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link

you have c+p the link, clicking it wont work

xelab, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 13:47 (eight years ago) link

are there any sex scenes in it

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 13:52 (eight years ago) link

enh, not exactly a bonkbuster

Inside, it was dark, save for the television, which flickered in the corner, the volume turned down. Laura pressed herself back against the door as she shut it, breathing hard. As her eyes got used to the light, she saw John sprawled out on the armchair, sound asleep. She walked closer to him. She bent down and smiled, her face just above him. His eyes opened, then she felt a hand reach up into her hair and pull her gently forward. With adrenalin still pumping from the incident in the bar, she lowered herself onto him. His kiss was
passionate and hard.

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

oooo, ids presidential fan-fiction!

For many, President Carson was considered the most formidable politician of his generation. An even better communicator than President Reagan, he had come from behind to win the Democratic nomination and then the election, two and a half years before. In doing so, he had ended a fallow period for the Democratic party. He had torn it from its obsession with the old principles of redistribution and had broadened its appeal. Now he was seen as a common-sense man, the 'guy next door'. But he had used this image ruthlessly in his dealings with the Republican-controlled Congress. Power was President Carson's driving ethos. He had always believed that simply by his being there, things would be better as long as the public liked it, that was enough. And he had quite brilliantly positioned the Republican-dominated Congress as too ideological when it imposed a new budget on him. By ersuading the public that he had made the best of it, he had positioned himself as the 'anti-politician' defending them against Washington politicians. He fostered the
appearance of an outsider, but he knew how to play the political game with the best of them. The deals, the federal contracts, they were what he was brilliant at.

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 14:04 (eight years ago) link

Now he was seen as a common-sense man, the 'guy next door'.

maybe even... a quiet man?

the illicit unit slid tantalizingly across the waxed tile (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link

This definitely deserves its own thread.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link

He watched her, his head resting
gently on the back of his chair, his hands folded around the sides of
his cup. Her sensuous beauty always held him. Her Madonna eyelids
made her look as though she'd just woken up, particularly as they were
framed by thick black hair falling across her shoulders; she was as
captivating to him in the morning as last thing at night. Thirty years
younger than him, she was for Acquilan, at one and the same time, a
fine work of art and an exacting companion who stimulated all his
senses. He laughed gently and she smiled.

soref, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

I think Acquilan is the bad guy, having skimmed this

soref, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link

Good god

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link


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