Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

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Note from building's management today.

Counter Terrorism Awareness Week

Next Monday, 23rd November, marks the start of Counter Terrorism Awareness Week. This is an annual event that takes place across London and is not linked to recent events in Paris.

With regard to the Estate, the Police will be deploying additional resources throughout the week. These include Armed Vehicle Check Points on approach roads, increased aerial observation and high visibility patrols using foot and horse mounted officers.

The intent, here and across the Capital, is to provide reassurance and will enhance the existing security regime on the Estate.

Please be assured that these operations are not in response to recent events.

Well, thanks. That's good to know. It's certainly raised my awareness of counter-terrorism.

La Düsseldork (Branwell with an N), Friday, 20 November 2015 12:29 (eight years ago) link

nothing sweeter than gliding along in the bus lane past a road full of stationary cars

when's international me day? (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 November 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link

Twitter is going nuts bc McDonnell apparently quoted from Mao's red book and then threw it across the table at Osborne?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link

If true I think this is definitely in the 'he could make things easier for himself' category.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 14:08 (eight years ago) link

LOL:

McDonnell brandishes a copy of Mao’s Little Red Book, and he quotes from it: “We must learn to do economic work from all, no matter who they are.” He thought this advice would come in handy for Osborne, McDonnell says.

My man

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 14:17 (eight years ago) link

Seriously McDonnell should've made way more out of the Tax Credits u-turn than he appears to have. otoh he has no advance copy of this..

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 14:20 (eight years ago) link

he promised not to do that on the Marr show.

xelab, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 14:21 (eight years ago) link

He's taking the piss obviously, but a) perhaps now is not really the time, and b) either he really hadn't thought about how it might be used against him, or he went ahead and did it anyway. You have to wonder whether he bothers to run any of this stuff past Corbyn first.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 14:22 (eight years ago) link

It's probably slightly better than taking the leader of the Chinese Communist Party for a pint though.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link

Well, it's one way of moving the news cycle on from labour divisions over Syria.

Agents, show the general out. (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 14:32 (eight years ago) link

https://youtu.be/Fm3SNk3ffoA

ogmor, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

I think I remember (but may be mistaken) when the Guardian wasn't such a completely predictable mark.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/25/austerity-tory-milibandism-labour-capitalism

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link

Nothing wrong with being a predictable mark!

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

I knew I was going to say that.

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

What the fuck was he thinking?

AlanSmithee, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

— Rafael Behr (@rafaelbehr)
November 25, 2015

Chris Leslie, Yvette Cooper scouring CSR small print on backbenches. Reminder that McDonnell never done rapid budget reaction. Others have

Chris + Yvette 4 Lab front bench 4 evah and evah.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

And here is a Guardian video with Osborne’s best jokes.

Thanks but I'll pass.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

Scouring the small print is just basic competence though, surely McDonnell thought to have someone do it?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

Yeah- Chris Leslie and Yvette Cooper.

Agents, show the general out. (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link

Sounds like a proper 'division of labour', eh readers? Ho ho ho

Agents, show the general out. (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/25/john-mcdonnell-mao-zedong-little-red-book-george-osborne

Former shadow business secretary Chuka Umunna said he was not sure why McDonnell had referred to Mao as a joke.

“The last politicians that I quoted, who have inspired me, are Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King, Keir Hardie – they’re the ones I tend to quote. But that’s my choice. I haven’t quoted a communist before and I have no intention of doing so in the future,” he said.

Chuka in being as dull as dust non-shockah.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link

McDonnell pulled out a copy of the book to make a point about George Osborne’s relationship with the Chinese

Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:22 (eight years ago) link

I wouldn't have done it myself, mind you.

Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:22 (eight years ago) link

(xxp) Keir Hardie is an inspirational figure for Chuka Umuna? Aye, right.

Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

It's pretty obvious by this point that Chuka is basically a moron who fancies himself as an arch-Machiavel.

A lot of usually jaunty Twitter Marxists getting angry about how everyone is focusing on this and not any of the issues of substance, which is true, but if you're a sr Labour member maybe think about that before you indulge in the sort of deliberately scene-stealing nobbish debating society Punch-and-Judy performance that Corbyn's front bench is supposed to be against.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:36 (eight years ago) link

Absolutely. If John McDonnell had concentrated on the substance, so would everyone else.

AlanSmithee, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

Tom Watson didn't look too amused either. Maybe the tax-credit u-turn took wrong footed him and it was his plan b?

There seem to be loads of rubbish popping up on the newsfeeds predictably quoting Mao's death tolls/ruinous policies.

xelab, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

Good job the Communist Party is not in charge of China anymore then.

Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link

No one in the media is going to give them a fair hearing anyway, and fuck the gamification of politics, but "hey, we've got nothing to lose so might as well take a shit on the table to stir things up" isn't a particularly sustainable way to win an argument either.

Much as I hate shouting "u-turn!" when said u-turn is patently the correct course of action, the tax credit change was a genuine victory for Corbyn and they should have just said so, again and again and again.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link

(Even if everyone else is claiming credit for it as well)

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link

The Guardian was giving it a big-up to Frank Field for the u-turn on tax credits. But yes its actually the energies marshalled by Corbyn and front-bench that have had a big role to play.

Also the backtrack on police cuts - while that was more due to the Paris attacks - could also have been seen as credit for Labour.

Maybe the tax-credit u-turn took wrong footed him and it was his plan b?

It was very easy to portray this as a victory for the Labour front-bench (one of a few but this is from the Budget side of things) and where they are strongest: domestic issues and dealing with questions around austerity.

Once the noise dies down I like to think McDonnell will learn from the experience and have better responses to come, even though the autumn statement is such a shambles of an occasion (austerity goes on boo-fucking-hoo isn't Osborne such a genius to do a bit less of it) I am not too bothered either way.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link

I doubt most people will be crediting Tories, or, chortle, the Lib Dems for getting Osborne to u-turn. There will be plenty of time to blow this particular trumpet in the future.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 17:51 (eight years ago) link

The u-turn won't make any difference to those who have been moved onto Universal Credit and have already taken the cut. I don't know the numbers but there will be lot of people who won't getting any good news today.

xelab, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 18:00 (eight years ago) link

Predictably Johnathon Jones is doing another of his shite Communionism wikis.

xelab, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link

Jonathon Jones even

xelab, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 18:07 (eight years ago) link

christ. tory press release on why mao is bad.

https://twitter.com/GerryHassan/status/669578525083607040

Fizzles, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/Birdyword/status/669510776902787072

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

Crocodile tears:

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/669538952731164673

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link

i literally can't think of anything more heartbreaking for the Labour party than a Labour shadow chancellor ironically quoting leftist rhetoric

when's international me day? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link

McDonnell is a disaster.

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link

I thought it was a bit of a misjudgement maybe, he didn't literally take a shit or it isn't like he pulled out Mein Kampf. My main criticism is he still could have addressed cuts in social care, "hidden cuts" that are integrated into Universal Credit, he could have made things more uncomfortable for Osbourne without reneging on his promise not to make political capital on a u-turn.

xelab, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 22:22 (eight years ago) link

just a bizarre stunt. would be charitable to call it poorly conceived and executed. the extremely minimal chance that a left-wing labour party could compete electorally with the tories in england has p much already been utterly squandered. corbyn's people are incompetent, the blairite internal opposition truculent, and britain is teetering over the precipice of a period of indefinite tory rule.

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

not sure why i didn't realize that weird internal rhyme was going on in the last sentence

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

I wouldn't say we are "teetering over the precipice of a period of indefinite tory rule" - and whatever everyone is saying about how the cuts have been softened, it was the vote from the Lord's that rollled that back. A lot of that is due to Corbyn and Mcdonnell being there.

The polls (even the 'adjusted ones') haven't moved from the election. This is minor stuff. There are a lot more shocks to come to this country so no need to jump the gun on anything.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link

Tory rule since 1979 feels fairly indefinite already tbh

when's international me day? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link

and yeah this kind of goof is irrelevant to the electorate

when's international me day? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link

In any kind of autumn statement can anyone remember anything Ed Balls said about it? No small detail super-response would have killed off the chancellor, a mere few months into a new parliament.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link

Corbyn's guys are incompetent
the Blairite basterds truculent
and Britain is teetering
over the brink of in-
definite Tory government

Sorry, English is my second language.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link

ha!

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 23:11 (eight years ago) link

orson_welles_applause.gif

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 23:12 (eight years ago) link


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