you mean the dude who used to be a decent/famous actor and is now lending ironic, legitimizing "gravitas" to the movie by appearing as an elder statesman?
why is there one of these in every superhero movie
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link
because lots of actors like being in successful movie franchises?
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link
Who knew actors liked to act in high profile appearances!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link
most of them don't seem to be enjoying themselves tbh
maybe we should make a poll
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link
and I'm referring to a very specific casting trope here, in case that isn't clear
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link
Even if this isn't about registration specifically, the tone on Agents of SHIELD since the Inhuman breakout would seem to suggest something along those lines is in the cards.
― The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link
Oh that is a good poll idea. Putting it together now.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link
are we talking about william hurt? he's reprising, is the funny thing, but i guess the movie he prised the first time in is now as uncanon as you can get and still be canon. anyway you punch an hour or three of clock on one of these things and you're set for the next few years of amusing yourself, doing lear, whatever. it's not like you have to watch them. the only really horrifying part is the junkets.
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 18:07 (eight years ago) link
was he in one of those Hulk movies before? I can't remember
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link
yeah he was in the norton one. he should reprise his role from a history of violence.
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link
hey broheem!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link
Ha, I actually forgot the Norton Hulk movie existed. I thought Hurt was taking over from Sam Elliott in the Ang Lee Hulk movie.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link
Iron Man and Captain America being on the wrong sides of this registration issue (also a problem with the original story) is strongly mitigated by tying this to the fate of Bucky.
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, November 25, 2015
yup. i've had ~trepidations~ ever since they announced the title bc that entire event rang so false, but on the basis of one trailer MCU seems to have improved significantly on the source material.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link
Renee Russo is the queen of the 'wtf am I doing here' elder actor statesman gig thang in these films
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link
most of them don't seem to be enjoying themselves tbh: Comic Book Movie Gravitas Bringers, The Poll
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link
haha awesome thx
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link
russo not big league enough. =(
or tombot is sexist.
or both.
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link
a genuine oversight for which I apologize
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
I also had no idea she was in her sixties! wow
https://41.media.tumblr.com/7a1f841aa6e2f70ea5665ab76b497643/tumblr_nydsegFkiP1ugjda4o1_540.jpg
― qualx, Friday, 27 November 2015 02:26 (eight years ago) link
feel like cap and iron man being 'on the wrong sides' makes more sense w how the movie characters have been set up, w/ the very corporate iron man the movies have and the captain america who spent half of his last movie on the run from the govt. yes, it was a govt. infiltrated by hydra or whatever. in the comics it just seemed arbitrary / an excuse for a dust-up.
― thwomp (thomp), Friday, 27 November 2015 03:16 (eight years ago) link
Not the government, SHIELD, but good point about Cap. I feel Downey has been particularly good at being bad at taking advice/orders, though. Though the pomposity he could bring to the high moral ground would appeal to his Tony Stark.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 27 November 2015 07:23 (eight years ago) link
Here's your final trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKrVegVI0Us
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 March 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link
wait re: the ending, had that leaked and I missed it
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 10 March 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link
Heavily rumored IIRC but I can't recall if it had been specifically confirmed.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 March 2016 17:31 (eight years ago) link
part of amy pascal's sony bailout was that sony would 'lend' spiderman to marvel for a couple movies before they reboot (again)
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 10 March 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link
Well they'd already confirmed a new film with Holland, it just wasn't clear if he was going to be in this film, which, well, there we are.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 March 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link
yeah it makes perfect sense considering his role in the comics
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 10 March 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link
Russo Bros were in Cleveland for Wizard World a couple of weekends ago. I didn't go but a friend of mine did, and went to their panel. They're talking about coming back here again for shooting Avengers: Infinity War, and one of the locations they're discussing is literally a two minute walk from my house.
― T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 March 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link
I thought it had been confirmed quite a long time ago that Spidey was going to be in the new Cap movie.
― Anus The Untouchable (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 March 2016 17:59 (eight years ago) link
Might have been! Maybe the surprise was just that he ended up in the trailer.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:03 (eight years ago) link
Haven't they confirmed, like, 50 superheroes for Infinity War? How many are we up to so far, across the various films?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link
#teamantman
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link
hey they've animated spidey's eyes
― ripple-chested beefchrist (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link
these trailers should start with the sound of a bucket of toys being dumped out
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:16 (eight years ago) link
This movie is totally going to end with Thanos watching earth in his little whatever, laughing, and saying something like "what a bunch of fools, let them fight while my evil plan finally comes together!"
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:18 (eight years ago) link
or spiderman eating a gyro with thor
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link
willie lumpkin sharing a caesar salad with misty knight
― ripple-chested beefchrist (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link
I still haven't seen Ant Man.
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link
You wouldn't.
― Anus The Untouchable (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link
ha.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link
Ant Man is... pretty good?
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link
hoping for Michael Peña cameo in Ant Man scenes
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I'm sure they'll probably try to squeeze him in. He was a hit.
― Anus The Untouchable (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link
he'll be going to town on a mezze platter with aunt may in a post-credits sequence
― ripple-chested beefchrist (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 March 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link
Thanks for the new DN.
― Going To Town On Aunt May's Mezze Platter (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 March 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link
haha yr welcome
― ripple-chested beefchrist (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 10 March 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link
comes across as more of a euphemism in your DN and o my god i'm gonna be sick
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 10 March 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link
given how old spidey sounds here, i'm guessing aunt may will be played by... brie larson?
― qualx, Friday, 11 March 2016 02:55 (eight years ago) link
Marisa Tomei. Yes, seriously.
― Going To Town On Aunt May's Mezze Platter (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 March 2016 02:56 (eight years ago) link
This doesn't really work as a standalone film does it? I've seen (I think) every single one of the preceding movies, and have a fair working knowledge of most of the characters from the comics, but I was scratching my head trying to figure out what was going on in parts. If I'd watched all the other films last week I would've been fine. Also they weren't very good at deliniating the different sides or making the stakes that clear or compelling, also they chickened out of giving Cap and Iron Man a genuine and convincing ideological greivance really, basically everyone was being big babies (maybe the point?)
BUT it was amazingly enjoyable nontheless, and the big fight scene was, I thought, INCREDIBLE. The most accurate screen recreation of a comic book superhero fight in both spirit and visuals I've seen. And the new Spidey is totally on the money and totally stole the show. Blows the Maguire and Garfield versions out of the water with a mere cameo. Black Panther was great as well.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 21 May 2016 12:11 (eight years ago) link
What do you reckon you were missing beyond "These cities got trashed"?
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 21 May 2016 12:19 (eight years ago) link
The fact that nobody made an argument that the world sould havd fucking ended each time without intervention was kind of a plot canyon nest pas
But again, plot, i mean it's irrelevant however much ppl try to expound on thematic strengths or intricacy and consistency of internal motivations and does it speak to our times these movies work because the gorgeous ppl in the tight shiny outfits did cool things while saying cool things.
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 May 2016 12:29 (eight years ago) link
this was good, highly entertaining, but yeah all these movies are starting to run together to me, quality-wise at least.
the conflict was more believable than SvB (a low bar, i know) but still, yeah, kinda confused about the ultimatum presented to the superheroes. either sign with the UN or.... stop saving the world?
honestly everyone should have just flown to a tropical island to wait it out until the next alien invasion.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 21 May 2016 16:42 (eight years ago) link
Was that alien invasion being at least partially blamed on the team?Looked a bit like since they happened to be there the damage was being put down to them & I can't remember the set up in the original film. It was really localised wasn't it. But military high command should have known.Has there been some explanation given to the population mentioned elsewhere? Cos I think I've heard something & can't think where.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 21 May 2016 17:10 (eight years ago) link
more importantly Stark should have remembered that he personally had to save NYC from being nuked by committee.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 May 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link
& the "or else" was go sit in this prison in the middle of the ocean that we designed for supervillain containment
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 May 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link
espn's revenues have started to drop, right when they paid ridiculous af sums for various tv rights
good. espn's stranglehold on sports broadcasting needs to be broken. back when I grew up a child could kick a ball in the street with curt gowdy and howard cosell for free. now you can't watch a little girl play beach volleyball for less than an arm and a leg.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 21 May 2016 17:46 (eight years ago) link
At which stage she's, yknow, shit at volleyball
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 May 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link
These are worthwhile: Who wants cartoon Avengers puppies?
https://mobile.twitter.com/fennethianell/status/733395240938307585
― Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Monday, 23 May 2016 22:50 (eight years ago) link
dawwww
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:59 (eight years ago) link
yay I'm finally seeing this movie tonight so I can go back and read this thread
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Friday, 10 June 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link
It's quite a ride! I'd say the third best Marvel movie, after Guardians of the Galaxy and the first Thor.
― Tuomas, Friday, 10 June 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link
Ugh I still haven't seen it. My daughter was born on opening night. Inconsiderate of her really.
― franny glasshole (franny glass), Friday, 10 June 2016 21:04 (eight years ago) link
djp is due back
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Friday, 10 June 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link
Well that was awesome
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Saturday, 11 June 2016 11:55 (eight years ago) link
Y
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 June 2016 12:21 (eight years ago) link
The movie or the thread
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 11 June 2016 13:28 (eight years ago) link
lol
Just finished reading the thread. I'm not sure what the people complaining were looking for from this movie. I thought every character was fantastically portrayed and that everyone's positions made sense based on who they were. I also thought this reimagining of Zemo was a much more compelling figure than the ranting maniac from the comic books. Kind of bummed that Crossbones blew himself up, makes it much less likely that a Thunderbolts movie will happen.
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Saturday, 11 June 2016 15:48 (eight years ago) link
But if they'll do a Thunderbolts movie, presumably Zemo will still be their leader, and the movie Zemo would never have a HYDRA follower in his team anyway.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 12 June 2016 13:20 (eight years ago) link
Sure but Crossbones was in the "felons controlled by Luke Cage in a thinly-veiled version of Suicide Squad" iteration, not the Zemo iteration
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Sunday, 12 June 2016 14:57 (eight years ago) link
Think the actor who played Crossbones has suggested his character might return, not that it seems all that plausible.
― albvivertine, Sunday, 12 June 2016 15:03 (eight years ago) link
i'm sure everyone's forgotten this already but it was very convenient that it happened to be bucky who killed stark's parents and it happened to be captured on cctv which happened to make it back to siberia (i think??) and it happened to be only stark and cap am and bucky who turned up there (plus black panther who happened to redact himself). i know, forget it jake it's comic book town.
― lana del boy (ledge), Friday, 19 January 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link
It seemed pretty inconvenient if I'm honest it made it very tricky to resolve the issue without conflict
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Friday, 19 January 2018 14:26 (six years ago) link
yeah i would have been happier without the extra 20 minutes of 'enhanced' white dudes slugging each other around. which maybe begs the question why i bother watching these things.
― lana del boy (ledge), Friday, 19 January 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link
I thought this movie was a humourless clusterfuck (with good Spider-Man bits) and not sure why everyone went crazy over it. Maybe it just got overpraised in the wake of BatVSupes showing just how bad one of these movies *could* get.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 19 January 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link
well the real civil war was a humorless clusterfuck so
― El Tomboto, Friday, 19 January 2018 14:34 (six years ago) link
Huh, I would've sworn this was before BvS.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 19 January 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link
funnily enough i rescreened this again recently and it's fine - didn't like it as much as i did upthread but it does a good job of keeping a lot of characters moving and it's got some cool moments
ledge's point about enhanced folks slugging each other at the climax is fair but i still much prefer the small, personal nature of the conflict to yet another 'gotta close the portal in the sky!' finale
winter soldier is a hard act to follow tbf
― grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 January 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link
oh and the fight choreography is fkn rad, even if there is a bit too much of it
i didn't love it but it's still fine. i don't really get why tony and steve *have* to fight at the end, it's all too idiot plot
but iron man 2 is still the only flat-out bad marvel movie, i think.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 19 January 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link
Dr Strange. Awful.
Didn't think winter soldier was any better than avg for marvel tho
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Friday, 19 January 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link
xps no the REAL Civil War was the friends we made along the way
― Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Friday, 19 January 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link
Winter Soldier was basically Marvel's Bourne movie.
― Moodles, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link
But better because CAPTAIN AMERICA
― El Tomboto, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:30 (six years ago) link
^^^
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:17 (six years ago) link
deal, I'll watch it again this weekend
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link
russo era marvel makes it obvious that punching is the only way to solve any problem.
(punching was also the solution in the whedon era, but he managed to hide it well.)
― adam the (abanana), Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:51 (six years ago) link