Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

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avant-garde, sissy bounce, zombie rave, aquacrunk, warlock, oceangrunge, (imago), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtSbedMeF6s

really want to make a video of non-stop bombing footage over this tune but hey i got work in the morning

Sancho Panzer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link

Just watched a BBC reporter trying to persuade a (Syrian) representative of a charity that works in Syria of the wisdom of bombing campaign - is this what the BBC is for?

Otago Imago (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

yes and always has been iirc

Sancho Panzer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

This morning Humphrys rudely cut off a Syrian guest on Today who was making a persuasive argument for not killing civilians.

xelab, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link

If he'd done that to a pro-bombing Labour MP no doubt they would have made an emotional speech about it in Parliament to day.

Otago Imago (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 20:59 (eight years ago) link

Top 90s nostalgia from NV there.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link

Can we hurry with the voting I want my final Gulag list k tx bye

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link

simon hoare: "this is not a war, it's a recalibration of an existing operation"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link

Labour peer Lord Rooker has strong words for the his party's front bench in the Commons, comparing the exploitation by IS of the "innate tolerance" of the UK with "the way the anti-British trots in the Labour Party are using our tolerance to get control".

"Daesh are coming for us," he says, and warns of the lessons of Munich: "If you don't fight when attacked, you lose."

Leaving his strongest words about Jeremy Corbyn until last, the former minister says:

"I'm in the terrible position of having been in Westminster since February 1974 and believing that there are members of the cabinet that I would rather have as prime minister than my own party leader - we need to get rid of him."

Send of those Brimstone things to Islington perhaps?

Otago Imago (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link

Salmond's glowering at Cameron when asking him to apologise earlier was quite exhilarating nay terrifying.

nashwan, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

A lot of these MPs are the result of the moral vacuum created by successive bad regimes.

xelab, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link

Benn invoking the children in his leadership bid right now.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:37 (eight years ago) link

LOL @ "Hollande in our sister socialist party"

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

Is Hilary Bomb the new Tony Bliar?

Otago Imago (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link

Hilary outraged that ISIS think they are better than us.

Otago Imago (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link

He is talking about internationalism and how Fascists need to be defeated -- so probably not.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link

Got masses of applause, most of them drinking blood by this point.

Expect lots of Hilary 4 leader claptrap right now on twitter and in the next few days in the press.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

Invoking Hitler + El Duce = classic speech, what a bunch of degenerates.

xelab, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link

corbyn looked v.v.uncomfortable following benn's "barnstormer". has rory stewart spoken? syria's not his area of expertise but he's frequently v.good on the middle east

hot doug stamper (||||||||), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:49 (eight years ago) link

Not so good on Middleland though.

Otago Imago (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:51 (eight years ago) link

How can say "Labour’s sister socialist party" with a straight face?

xelab, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:54 (eight years ago) link

he

xelab, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:54 (eight years ago) link

right on cue:

Dan Hodges 18 minutes ago

Hilary Benn doesn't just look like the leader of the opposition at the moment. He looks like the prime minister.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:54 (eight years ago) link

They were doing this with Dan Jarvis the other day.

xelab, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link

Here I thought Corbyn's sympathy for political parties that sometimes used terrorism for their goals was a part of his appeal?

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link

Democracy folks:

TUPPER WEREWOLF ‏@TUPPER_WEREWOLF 9 mins

A tory MP tonight said that 90% of his constituents were against bombing Syria, however, he felt he should use his own judgment #SyriaVote

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link

incredible from hilary benn - what a performance, glorious night, privileged to have tickets for the show, let's kill some kids, bravo.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link

Britain is vile

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:22 (eight years ago) link

It wasn't even all that. ISIL a bunch of fascists and as big a threat as Nazi Germany?! iirc the Nazis occupied the whole of France for a while.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:23 (eight years ago) link

I'd have any of yis over here fwiw there's great value to the euro atm

MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:23 (eight years ago) link

fucking bunch of shit. it's just classic politics as entertainment, someone must be crowned the winner, and it suits the government to lionise an opposition member for his "reasonable" stance.

yet again i see "do our bit" featured. like we all need to "muck in" and just kill people cos it'd be untoward not to. this shit passing for some kind of heroic speech is pathetic. they're so out of touch it's untrue.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:25 (eight years ago) link

occupied / collaborated you say potato xxp

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:25 (eight years ago) link

iirc the UK's inability to work with other countries was a big factor in WWII actually starting

Sancho Panzer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link

Going mad for any hints of Churchillian flourish. Its a British disease.

60 Lab MPs voted against the amendment to block action in Syria so this should be the scale of the rebellion.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link

Churchill not a sensible figure to invoke with regard to the Middle East

Otago Imago (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link

Nice of Benn to jump to corbyns defence tho. 'Leave him alone he's not a terrorist sympathiser'. Fucking slimy patronising wank.

Fuck all these people forever obviously and see you in another 5 years to do it somewhere else.

The story of a Romanian (Blandford Forum), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

Good news, the bombing can begin tonight! Huzzah! Trebles all round!

Otago Imago (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link

ugh:

stellacreasy @stellacreasy

Hilary benn’s speech has persuaded me that fascism must be defeated. I will hold public meeting on Sunday to discuss #syria

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link

Those glorious years of fighting Fascism when we were bombing German civilians in their cities rather than targeting Nazi infrastructure, it didn't hasten their military defeat but sure felt good.

xelab, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link

bomber harris, the sensitive bomber

gazcom (NickB), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link

Hilary benn’s speech has persuaded me that fascism must be defeated.

Wasn't sure about it, hadn't thought about it before.

Otago Imago (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

used to think Isis were a great bunch of lads, not so sure now that Hilary Benn has employed the Nazi analogy

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link

its the "I will hold a public meeting" that takes the biscuit.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link

Gotta love the glee of BBC presenters over the prospect of 60-70 Labour MPs "voting against Jeremy Corbyn".

Otago Imago (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link

Though 60-70 Labour MPs "voting against Jeremy Corbyn" is a pretty accurate description of what transpired.

Otago Imago (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link

So this woman hadn't made up her mind even what 10-15 mins before she was about to vote?! Absurd.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link

wandering up and down Walthamstow high street singing "who wants a game of war?" isn't really a public meeting imo

Sancho Panzer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link

I will hold public meeting on Sunday to discuss #syria

She's a London MP, it might not be a very good idea.

Otago Imago (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

152 - 67 is the so far reported Lab split

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link


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