Marvel's Jessica Jones

she reminded me of a Sandra Bernhard character

Me too, total King of Comedy vibes! I think it's the voice.

lol DJP

I would've developed the Kilgrave plot more slowly in the background for the first half of the season though, and had some minor, unconnected cases first.

there are a LOT of ways this show is like Veronica Mars (most of them very good ways), but the way they developed the main plot thread (and kilgrave himself) so early in the season is not one of them. IIRC, in the best seasons of V.M., they announced the main season-long plot at the beginning, but then basically waited at least half a season to really get moving on it, with just a few hints here and there. i liked that. here they definitely showed their hand a bit too soon. i still like these series though! and i'm pretty allergic to all things superhero.

granted, i think the seasons of V.M. had many more episodes than J.J.

first season of vm was much more case of the week w/ occasional working in of big season long plot. second season had the cases of the week much more frequently tie in to the big overarching mystery. third season had some douchebag from pitchfork.

i know this has already been said but the comic was much more case of the week, w/ the trauma of kilgrave lingering over everything but generally unspoken until the final arc which deals w/ it head on (iirc similar to the show when she takes a case looking for a girl she realizes has fallen under kilgrave's spell). after that they wrapped it up, bendis pretty much said he couldn't imagine following up the arc and that basically the story had been told. jessica jones still existed, her and luke cage eventually married and had a kid, she got a job at the daily planet. really no idea where they go w/ the show from here.

her and luke cage eventually married and had a kid, she got a job at the daily planet

so, the show transitions to a workplace sitcom next season?

xpost Yeah, I was flipping through my trades and I didn't even see Killgrave until pretty much the very end.

Her job at the Daily Bugle (ahem, but actually not even the Bugle but a subsidiary publication called The Pulse </nerd>) was still pretty noir-ish IIRC.

haha the dc kid in me came out sorry

Beyond her continued romance with Luke and having a kid, most of the stuff from The Pulse has already been cannibalized by these shows (e.g. Luke in a coma, and Urich's investigation of Fisk on Daredevil pretty closely mirrors The Pulse's first arc involving the exposure of Norman Osborne's identity to the world). And most of her subsequent stories have been set within the contest of a larger team. So, yeah, it'll be interesting to see where they go with a second season.

(ahem, but actually not even the Bugle but a subsidiary publication called The Pulse

so the next season centers around a major media company buying out the arts weekly JJ writes for, laying off their long-time employees, and she becomes one of many unemployed culture-industry writers? then she starts posting to ILM.

I love this and now I want to be a superhero PI.

That redhead was so awful I could hardly watch her. Ugh.

I think the people who liked the horrible ginger vs. the people who don't think the actress is cuet.

Actress is kind of cuet in an odd way (non-JJ photos go a long way toward arguing this case), still found her 'annoying'.

If you saw a still photo of her you'd be like 'OK, she's kind of cute', but as soon as she starts talking or moving it's a different story.

the actor that bugged me was the guy who played Simpson

Ha xpost

I thought dude who played Simpson was good inasmuch as his character is supposed to be basically a glitchy Captain America, and he seemed like the real world result of an attempt at making a Cap (i.e. something would go wrong and dude would be a borderline-psychotic living weapon).

GIMME A RED

That guy is Nuke, right?

Fer sure.

i don't know the characters and haven't read any of the books or know anything about any of these worlds (haven't seen captain america either) so maybe he fits in that context but he bugged me in this for whatever reason.

OUR MY BOYS, OUR MY BOYS.

xpost Very fair point. I have a hard time seeing these shows through the eyes of a newcomer because I'm the nerd that they throw in all of the nerdy easter eggs for.

Spottie, in the comics the guy is literally part of the same super-soldier program that produced Captain America in the 1940s. Nuke (in the series he wasn't referred as such, but Simpson is clearly supposed to be the same character) was introduced in the 1980s in the Daredevil comic by Frank Miller, and he was used as a criticism of the gung-ho militarism of the times. (In the comic Cap discovers Nuke is an 80s version of him, and Miller plays the "old veteran shocked of what happened to the military values he knew" trope with his reactions.) They didn't use much of those elements with Nuke in JJ, but presumably they're saving them for the next season.

But yeah, I agree that he felt out of place in Jessica Jones, because he's so clearly a Captain America foil. I'm not sure why they decided to use him in the TV series and not the movies, because unlike in the comics, they can't have Cap guest star so we can see what he thinks of Nuke.

Amazing there was once a time when Frank Miller critisised hung ho militarism.

He was pretty firmly a libertarian until 9/11, right? So that seemed to have been the basis for his criticism. There's a lot of that in Martha Washington, and IIRC in Elektra Assassin too.

Thanks, Tuomas. Interesting.

Unexpectedly got pulled into this and am 7 episodes in. I'm liking it a lot and I'm in all the way - the show does seem to benefit from binge watching several episodes at a time. I can imagine getting annoyed with waiting for something to happen had this been drawn out one week after next.

All the episodes were released at once, like with other Netflix series, weren't they? So binge watching is pretty much the default mode of viewing it, and the producers knew that.

they can't have Cap guest star so we can see what he thinks of Nuke.

Also don't think Marvel would be ok with Cap going down on Trish.

lol

This Marvel?

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♬ it's patsy! patsy! she really wants to be your friend ♬

didn't notice on first viewing that JJ tries to refer someone to "Angela Del Toro," another detective (and currently White Tiger in the Marvel U)

Boo-urns: http://www.slashfilm.com/jessica-jones-season-2-2018/

*flips table*

THEY CAN REVIVE STUPID FUCKING FULL HOUSE BUT THEY CAN'T MAKE AGENT CARTER WORK?

I HATE THIS WORLD

Guys, guys, that article is from six months ago. There are Inhumans and Cloak & Dagger shows coming now to fill the holez in your soulz.

so

Is there anyone on this entire earth who cares about the inhumans?

old lunch iirc

Kirby Inhumans are Kool (a good friend of mine owns the original of this page, have spent many happy hours looking at it)

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They look cool, but I don't think they've ever been particularly interesting as characters, at least when they're supposed to carry the story and not just appear as supporting players (like in Kirby's FF stories or War of Kings). Oddly enough, one of the the best stories featuring them was when Gorgon and Karnak appeared in Ann Nocenti's Daredevil.

the only inhuman that matters is this giant slobbery hero-dog

http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ms-marvel-8-lockjaw.png

i'd pay good money for a timehopping agent carter / ms marvel / lockjaw buddy tv show

I do care about the Inhumans! But I also think that they ('they' being the royal family, specifically) are best utilized in a larger ensemble rather than as central characters. But this thing is supposed to be a limited series so it'll probably be fine.

Holding out hope for a Ms. Marvel & Lockjaw movie. It's time, Marvel.

Wasn't it at some point retconned (by Byrne?) that Lockjaw is actually a regular humanoid Inhuman who was turned into a dog form by the Terrigen Mists? And yet for some reason everyone kept treating him like an animal.

lockjaw is a big adorable teleporting doggie and john fuckin' byrne of all people is not gonna tell me any different