Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

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John McDonnell has tabled an urgent question in the Commons today, to be answered by David 'Short Straw' Gauke. I assume Osborne is in a darkened room somewhere, knees pulled up to his chin, rocking back and forth and saying."Mummy daddy" over and over again.

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Monday, 21 March 2016 13:28 (eight years ago) link

Or higher than Goering

stet, Monday, 21 March 2016 13:43 (eight years ago) link

Now seems like a good time for the most prominent proponent of free schools outside the government to start talking about eugenics.

https://mobile.twitter.com/toadmeister/status/699336901820551170

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Monday, 21 March 2016 14:20 (eight years ago) link

what in the everloving fuck

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 March 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link

even for toby young that's a whole new level of clueless cuntery

Upset by racist left wingers calling me an egg (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 March 2016 14:27 (eight years ago) link

It's okay it's only "progressive"

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 March 2016 14:28 (eight years ago) link

Surely Toby understands that any rational eugenics scheme would be aiming to remove his genes from the pool

someone who just gets annoyed at bad tweets (stevie), Monday, 21 March 2016 14:32 (eight years ago) link

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/13/article-2002963-02AB563800000578-811_233x386.jpg

And it’s probable that in the next few years genetic research scientists will produce even more evidence that important aspects of people’s personalities—including those that determine whether they succeed or fail—are linked to their genes, with the relevant variants being physically identified.

tbf the sooner we find and eradicate the genetic soup which led to the formation of toby young the better

Upset by racist left wingers calling me an egg (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 March 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link

beaten to it by stevie

Upset by racist left wingers calling me an egg (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 March 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link

I propose a new question for all IQ tests: "do you believe in IQ as a useful measure of anything?", positive response leads to score docked by 50 points.

ledge, Monday, 21 March 2016 15:42 (eight years ago) link

#notallmensa

nashwan, Monday, 21 March 2016 15:48 (eight years ago) link

#yesallmensa

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 21 March 2016 15:49 (eight years ago) link

Mensa Rights Activism

"Worried pimp" (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 21 March 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link

^ Joe Dolce discovers reddit

"Worried pimp" (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 21 March 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link

George Osborne's Budget is in "absolute chaos" and should be withdrawn, shadow chancellor John McDonnell says.

Mr McDonnell was asking an urgent question about changes to the Budget including the decision to shelve disability benefit cuts.

Matt DC, Monday, 21 March 2016 15:52 (eight years ago) link

Gauke wants to be next chancellor so so bad

stet, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:02 (eight years ago) link

TS: Ken Clarke, "Gimmicky budgets will lead to ruin" vs David Bowie, "Idiot love will spark the fusion"

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:06 (eight years ago) link

Classic Osborne actually - letting this Gauke nobody take the heat while he comes up with monopoly money (which he has done in the past, and I'm sure that is what he is getting his civil servants to do now)

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:08 (eight years ago) link

David Gauke says the government will set out its plans in the Autumn Statement.

... which is in November. Unbelievable.

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link

Labour should stop asking this nobody questions until Gideon turns up. Complete waste of time.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:12 (eight years ago) link

I know it's not the burning issue of the moment, but if I can go back to that Toby Young piece:

cognitive ability and other characteristics that lead to success, such as conscientiousness, impulse control and a willingness to defer gratification, are between 40 per cent and 80 per cent heritable.[5]

That footnote leads not to a citation of a scientific paper, but this helpful little explanation:

[5] This means that between 40% and 80% of the variation in these characteristics in any given population can be accounted for by genetic differences in that population.

Sadly, no. Accent, for example, is highly heritable (also, like IQ, correlated with race, class, education, and largely fixed after adolescence). Does it have a genetic component? Nope.

ledge, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:13 (eight years ago) link

(and that is really the crux of his argument)

ledge, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:14 (eight years ago) link

Hey Gauke dude. what the fuck is wrong with you?

"Worried pimp" (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:25 (eight years ago) link

PM defends the work of the Chancellor "we can only improve life chances if our economy is secure and strong"

The government will continue to give the "highest priority to improving life chances", David Cameron says.

The government will "take more people out of tax, rebuild sink estates, improve life chances, and reform prisons".

"Without sound public finances, you end up having to cut spending and put up taxes. You don’t get more life chances that way; you get fewer."

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:41 (eight years ago) link

cut spending and put up taxes, huh that sounds familiar

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:42 (eight years ago) link

rebuild sink estates,

Stay classy, Dave.

pastoral fantasy (jed_), Monday, 21 March 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link

Rebuild Cinque Estates

Mark G, Monday, 21 March 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link

That was some good parliament games from the Tories there; Gauke rallies the troops, then Cameron praises IDS and dodges what were not Corbyn's best jabs

stet, Monday, 21 March 2016 17:03 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/montie/status/711890797772345345

i must admit i am v impressed by the logical contortions involved here

Cooper and Kendall would have abstained the hell of them.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Monday, 21 March 2016 17:11 (eight years ago) link

*out of them

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Monday, 21 March 2016 17:12 (eight years ago) link

From the commentary Corbyn has been p/lame apparently, but its The Guardian saying it and I hate parliament.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 March 2016 17:28 (eight years ago) link

Not mentioning IDS at all is p. weird and has all his haters out in force. But it did focus all the discussion on Osborne for a while at least

stet, Monday, 21 March 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link

Does feel like a wasted opportunity though

stet, Monday, 21 March 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link

Not really, a lot of ppl complaining re: Corbyn hate him. He doesn't have some 'killer instinct' or isn't Paxo. We know that.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 March 2016 18:36 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, he is never going to "perform" but at this point in the parliament I don't think that matters very much at all

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 March 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

Accoring to the commentariat (and the Lab right, natch) all the useless ppl "performed".

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 March 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link

Insulting someone's clothes counts as 'performing' in that shithouse.

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Monday, 21 March 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link

Press keeping hammering the Osborne line so poss even savvier than I give him credit for

stet, Monday, 21 March 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link

What is the Osborne line?

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Monday, 21 March 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

That Cameron had to defend him, that he didn't show up, that he is running scared etc.

stet, Monday, 21 March 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

Right, you mean Corbyn's Osborne line not, er, Osborne's Osborne line.(xp) lol

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Monday, 21 March 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link

Well, that "no further welfare cuts planned" line isn't going to backfire spectacularly at all is it?

The very fact that a member of the government has had to say that at all indicates a very sharp change in the political weather in the space of one week. It's a pretty desperate move but Cameron's entire edifice is in danger of collapsing here.

Matt DC, Monday, 21 March 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link

Cameron should ditch the hapless ringers and just hold up a big picture of a kitten with NO MORE CUTS written on it.

Matt DC, Monday, 21 March 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link

are they going to pass the budget? we only need around 10 rebels to vote against.

pastoral fantasy (jed_), Monday, 21 March 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link

Given that would probably bring down the government and trigger an immediate general election I'd imagine most Tory MPs would be a little squeamish about the prospect.

Matt DC, Monday, 21 March 2016 19:29 (eight years ago) link

Don't fully understand how the new legislation works but aren't they basically locked in unless no confidenced by a big majority?

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 March 2016 19:40 (eight years ago) link


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