Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

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Happening just around the corner from me, outside the Conservatives' spring conference:

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12961475_622494017900536_4530802684583480806_n.jpg?oh=92a0242663b15e9f770495dd4b715e63&oe=5788F748

jedi slimane (suzy), Saturday, 9 April 2016 13:29 (eight years ago) link

And for once lol at Jimmy Carr, getting his eventual revenge for being singled out.

Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Saturday, 9 April 2016 14:13 (eight years ago) link

...even though he can't spell 'hypocritical' in the circs.

jedi slimane (suzy), Saturday, 9 April 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link

Poor Polly:

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Strange times:ppl call for Cameron to go-but need him to stay til referendum or they'll choose a Brexiteer PM.I'm backing Cameron??Gd grief!

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 April 2016 10:17 (eight years ago) link

it must really go against her natural instincts to vote for a smug right wing public schoolboy

disco Polo (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 10 April 2016 10:22 (eight years ago) link

28 year old women with connections to the conservative party paid 53k per year out of public funds to give fashion advice to Samantha Cameron

Taxpayer 'pays for Samantha Cameron's £53,000-a-year fashion adviser'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/samantha-cameron-special-adviser-fashion-aide-taxpayer-salary-530000-a6974181.html

Rosie Lyburn, a former model and grandaughter of late Conservative politician Lord Elliott, was hired after last year's general election.

where is that neoliberal mouthpiece at the IEA, Mark Littlewood today? he would normally be spouting freemarket dogma and highlighting public sector waste and suggesting the job can be done for the new national living wage of 7.20 (for the over 25s) and should be funded personally by Samantha Cameron.

Where is George Osborne and his difficult decisions on public spending mantra? cutting public sector funds at every budget and his fundamentalist economic believe in the private sector.

djmartian, Sunday, 10 April 2016 15:59 (eight years ago) link

And where is the media coverage of this story?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Sunday, 10 April 2016 16:02 (eight years ago) link

This has been all over the press and is a nothing story, tbh. She replaced an aide who left and seems to be doing a similar role to the one Carole Caplin did for Cherie Booth. The £53k a year is also potentially misleading - her salary isn't known, all they can tell is that if she was paid more than £53k she would be in pay band 2 rather than pay band 1. Samantha Cameron has a fairly official role vis-a-vis state visits, etc.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Sunday, 10 April 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link

The fashion people on my FB are being sooooooo catty about this. Also, SC's sister is the deputy ed of British Vogue.

jedi slimane (suzy), Sunday, 10 April 2016 18:16 (eight years ago) link

Caplin was paid for by Blair though

stet, Sunday, 10 April 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link

http://www.express.co.uk/scotland/659831/Safety-scare-forces-Edinburgh-schools-to-stay-closed-after-Easter-SNP-Nicola-Sturgeon

At least those asbestos ridden post-war prefab shack type schools are still standing, unlike the PFI financed ones, built in the Blair era.

calzino, Sunday, 10 April 2016 23:09 (eight years ago) link

Interesting they put SNP-Nicola-Sturgeon in the url.

Labour initiative put in place by a Labour council.

Don't opine. Dead inside. (onimo), Sunday, 10 April 2016 23:31 (eight years ago) link

Caplin was paid for by Blair though

I'm not sure this is correct and, even if it is, the wife of the PM has always had a taxpayer-funded personal secretary / assistant. Sarah Brown certainly did.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Monday, 11 April 2016 03:11 (eight years ago) link

Jeremy Corbyn has promised to publish his own tax return. But there has been a hold-up - because he does not have a copy.

According to Labour, MPs have to submit their tax returns by paper and Corbyn sent his only copy to HM Revenue and Customs.

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illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 April 2016 13:01 (eight years ago) link

God, Tristram Hunt is useless.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 April 2016 10:27 (eight years ago) link

That's the nicest thing anyone's said about him.

Mark G, Sunday, 17 April 2016 10:29 (eight years ago) link

What's he done now?

Matt DC, Sunday, 17 April 2016 10:31 (eight years ago) link

Just been mugged by Andrew Neil. So much for the right of the Labour Party, I don't know who's more of a dimwit out of him, Chuku Umunna and Liz Kendall... what, am I saying, it's Liz Kendall.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 April 2016 10:32 (eight years ago) link

There are a lot of triumphant Outers on Twitter right now.

Matt DC, Sunday, 17 April 2016 10:44 (eight years ago) link

What a disaster it was when these intellectual giants resigned from the Shadow Cabinet.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 April 2016 10:51 (eight years ago) link

Some track record this guy's got.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Monday, 18 April 2016 11:54 (eight years ago) link

fucking albania, can you imagine????

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgzAkJ8WsAAzY2s.jpg

sorry, 'albania'

Dodged a bullet like Enver Hoxha in the Banda Mustafaj plot when Chuka bottled his leadership run.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Sunday, 24 April 2016 11:55 (eight years ago) link

good to see room for pig ignorant chauvinism on both sides of the debate

some men just want to watch the world Bern (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 April 2016 12:01 (eight years ago) link

Just been mugged by Andrew Neil. So much for the right of the Labour Party, I don't know who's more of a dimwit out of him, Chuku Umunna and Liz Kendall... what, am I saying, it's Liz Kendall.

― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Sunday, April 17, 2016 10:32 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Can I change my mind?

Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 April 2016 12:21 (eight years ago) link

Isn't this the anniversary of some giant Armenian genocide?

jedi slimane (suzy), Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:31 (eight years ago) link

It is and also just a few days after Hitler's birthday, who like Chuka was also a complete twat.

calzino, Sunday, 24 April 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link

Notorious hotbed of Trotskyism the BMA

some men just want to watch the world Bern (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 April 2016 13:53 (eight years ago) link

The source told the BBC BMA leaders had radicalised a "generation of junior doctors".

Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 00:05 (eight years ago) link

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/labour-hq-deleted-references-to-anti-semitism-from-naz-shahs?utm_term=.na3Kd9XXr

I know I really shouldn't be surprised by cack-handed incompetence from the labour leadership by this point, but ffs

soref, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 15:40 (eight years ago) link

Ken Livingstone's now popped up to let us know that he doesn't think that Shah's comments were anti-semitic, just to cap it off

soref, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 15:43 (eight years ago) link

so apparently they redacted her speech to make it less apologetic and less convincing and then suspended her - pretty dysfunctional party over there huh

Mordy, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 15:47 (eight years ago) link

Corbyn also reportedly praised her apology before she'd even made it. Just terrible management and useless communication throughout, my guess is this is mostly Seamus Milne's fault.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 15:51 (eight years ago) link

I thought that Peter Wilby's recent profile of Milne in the NS was interesting: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/04/thin-controller

soref, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 16:00 (eight years ago) link

can't believe Milne would let anti-Semitism go unchecked

some men just want to watch the world Bern (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 16:42 (eight years ago) link

She has been suspended from Labour. A lot of these attacks on Corbyn coming from the same lot who gave no 2nd thoughts to anti-semitic attacks on Ed M - nothing to see here.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link

I got it wrong. The Naz Shah apology leaked to me was a draft under consideration, not "final" as I was told. https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/labour-hq-deleted-references-to-anti-semitism-from-naz-shahs?utm_term=.yaLpplox9

https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/725415287118503936

stet, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

smh

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link

so apparently they redacted her speech to make it less apologetic and less convincing and then suspended her - pretty dysfunctional party over there huh

― Mordy, Wednesday, April 27, 2016 3:47 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

First of all, they didn't. Second of all, what do you care anyway?

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:38 (eight years ago) link

tbf I was responding to the information as it came out and not after damage control. also I'd think my interest in labour & antisemitism would be obvious?

Mordy, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:44 (eight years ago) link

The latter certainly, not the former.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link

Major left wing Anglo parties and Jews I'd say in my wheelhouse but whatever I don't need to comment here I was just more confused by the seeming incompetence than any kind of moral panic. nb I guess this means I won't be seeing you on US politics threads anymore?

Mordy, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:48 (eight years ago) link

You beat me to it! I was about to say you are entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to blunder into a thread about some goings on in the Democratic Party or whatever and sound off, not that I do very often.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link

She has been suspended from Labour. A lot of these attacks on Corbyn coming from the same lot who gave no 2nd thoughts to anti-semitic attacks on Ed M - nothing to see here.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, April 27, 2016 2:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Corbyn baiting press are obviously to be distrusted however elements of the British left, especially "loony left" outfits such as the Stop the War Coalition, which Corbyn is involved with, and the Respect party helmed by Seamus Milne's close friend George Galloway Respect have a real problem with being permissive towards Islamism, and so naturally anti-Semitism, in the ranks. This is not an un-perturbing thing for a prospective party of government to be involved with in even the most casual way.

Is Jack Nicholson really qualify as "Partyman"? (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link

We know all that, jim. Also that Seumas Milne is a cunt. I hardly need mention that George Galloway is a cunt.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:09 (eight years ago) link

Obviously this is unacceptable and must be fought against but what I am saying is this is a feature to be found across the political spectrum. Nobody blinked when going on about Ed Milliband's nose or what have you.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:16 (eight years ago) link

maybe someone here can explain to me tho -- it seems from her apology that she was very remorseful + sincere and she actively called herself out. is there a sense that this was a "youthful" (ok it was just a couple years ago) indiscretion or that she's scrambling to keep her job or what?

Mordy, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:20 (eight years ago) link


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