CITIZENFOUR, the Edward Snowden documentary by Laura Poitras

xp Ha ha Aimless. NY art critic Jerry Saltz is on record that he thinks GWB is a good painter. That how awful the NY art world is

His paintings look like the things they look like.

what exactly does her whitney show consist of? any fun reviews i can read.

tbh there are much worse amateur painters than bush. at least he offsets the basic sentimentality of his subjects with the muted colors.

good review of Whitney show http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/04/07/laura-poitras-on-target/

I liked the show although it does have weak points. It's a bit off the mark to dismiss it as Poitras' misguided attempt to remake herself as a visual artist—not, I think, what she tried to do at all

One element of the show I really liked was the hallway of redacted documents. I liked how the narrow viewing slits gave the feeling of peeking out through the black bars on a document.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxkZP6pjs0k

jesus fucking christ I could never be an actor

<3

if you're in a Stone movie, best to follow Tommy Lee Jones in NBK and pretend you're Daffy Duck

who is the audience for this movie?

(answer is probably nobody: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=fifthestate.htm)

so in this movie snowden has a manic pixie dream girl who turns him from a dumb ass stick in the mud conservative into a fun-loving NSA whistleblower?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/04/magazine/edward-snowdens-long-strange-journey-to-hollywood.html

this article starts out normally enough and then takes a really...bizarre turn towards the end

In the spring of 2014, Stone flew to Berlin and met with Poitras. The meeting did not go well. According to Poitras, Stone proposed that she delay the release of “Citizenfour,” which she was then in the middle of editing, to time up with his film. “Because his film would be the real movie — because it’s a Hollywood movie,” Poitras told me. “Obviously I wasn’t interested in doing that. To have another filmmaker ask me to delay the release of my film was — well, it was somewhat insulting.”

Stone was annoyed, but he stuck around for a few drinks. They discussed new movies, including “12 Years a Slave.” As Poitras recalls, Stone found the film too violent, while Poitras thought the brutality was appropriate given the subject matter. Stone was growing increasingly frustrated. “At some point, he reached over and had his hands around my neck,” Poitras said. “It was sort of in a joking way. I think he was a little bit drunk. But it was not a particularly pleasant evening.”

haha holy fuck what an asshole

"mine is the real movie!"

Poitras was being very charitable there.

yes

Ollie v much the opposite of classy

Snowden was really useless, it's just Citizenfour with prettier people. Far less compelling and not nearly as scary. No wonder Stone was pissed at Poitras.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2016/09/what_snowden_gets_wrong_about_its_hero.html

Lol @ zachary quinto's greenwald.

can't believe James Clapper's performance in this was forgotten yesterday

perhaps "not wittingly"

Just seen 5 minutes of the Stone movie, hadn't realised it was a spoof.