Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

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Yes, good work Ken, you cunt.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 May 2016 11:47 (eight years ago) link

If Khan loses and the expected wipeout takes place in Scotland then I think that'll be it for Corbyn. I don't believe he's remotely antisemitic but he has certainly created an environment where people like Ken feel they can shoot their mouths off with impunity. And if Khan loses it WILL be Ken's fault.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:14 (eight years ago) link

The possibility of voters just taking one look at the whole toxic mess and deciding just to not bother voting is reasonably high.

The ageing stoner dude looks nice enough.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:16 (eight years ago) link

Do you think Livingstone would be any more disciplined at this stage of his career under any other leader?

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:20 (eight years ago) link

those odds say no fucking way he loses

some men just want to watch the world Bern (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:25 (eight years ago) link

Did Diane Abbott ever apologize or backpedal for saying Mao did more good than harm?

I'd like to think that stuff that Boris and other Tories said will be dredged back up and have more weight. I could see this sort of stuff becoming more of an arms race than it previously was.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:31 (eight years ago) link

Do you think Livingstone would be any more disciplined at this stage of his career under any other leader?

Of course not, but then he could just be dismissed by the leadership as a rent-a-gob media buffoon a la Galloway semi-detached semi-retired ex-MP with no power or influence in the Party, Corbyn gave him the opportunity to (once again) caper about in front of the nearest camera.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:40 (eight years ago) link

... capering about as an 'insider' with the ear of the leadership that is and not a washed up hasbeen.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:42 (eight years ago) link

I'd like to think that stuff that Boris and other Tories said will be dredged back up and have more weight. I could see this sort of stuff becoming more of an arms race than it previously was.

Tories don't care and perhaps tacitly approve of their candidates being racist assholes.

just her neck. thankig u in advance (stevie), Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:43 (eight years ago) link

Anyway, the Labour Party (and any other party) would lose any such arms race against the Tories.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:45 (eight years ago) link

Goldsmith's campaign is dog-whistly to the point of explicit racism, it is how they roll.

just her neck. thankig u in advance (stevie), Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:47 (eight years ago) link

Yeah it's the unconcealed 'well MY guys are in charge again and I'll say what I want' puffery that has led to this. Although obviously there are political reasons why people might choose to make the most out of his comments now.

He had actual responsibility under Blair and Brown and certainly seemed quieter, Evening Standard drunken meltdown nothwithstanding, certainly not this mad raving old uncle shouting at the TV figure.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:49 (eight years ago) link

If you go back to the first Boris campaign it was largely positive and optimistic, even if it was horseshit really it seems pretty obvious to me why 'NEW ROUTEMASTERS YAY!' might work better as a pitch to London voters than 'HE WILL BLOW YOU UP'.

Changing demographics have also meant that the outer boroughs, largely solid blue last time, have more lower-income residents this time around, which could well swing it, and the inner boroughs are stuffed with affluent middle-management liberals who would be rightly disgusted by the Goldsmith campaign.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:56 (eight years ago) link

This is amazing on so many levels and needs to be set down here for the record. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lolMtJfhUbc

Mr. Hathaway. (jed_), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:00 (eight years ago) link

wow.

mark e, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:25 (eight years ago) link

Astonished, ASTONISHED by the polling day cock-up in Barnet, the Tory council which outsourced its services and based its business model upon Ryanair.

Elvis Santana (stevie), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:26 (eight years ago) link

Outsourcing electoral services! Wonder if there will still be a Tory council in place there, this time tomorrow.

jedi slimane (suzy), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

Rampant anti-Semitism in the Labour Party will take precedence in the minds of the voters of Barnet no doubt.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 May 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link

The joke legislation Psychoactive Substances Act 2016 to come into force on 26th May. Still don't really understand how poppers managed to get an exemption for apparently 'not acting on the brain'.

Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Thursday, 5 May 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

I'm glad that one guy who makes all the world's poppers got a reprieve

tay.ai fan (seandalai), Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link

bloody hell, how many crosses did i just have to draw ..
2 on one card, 3 on another.
i nearly shouted out 'cat ran round it' afterwards.
given i have never heard of any of them i had to go tribal (postcode/party affiliation).

mark e, Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link

reports of low turnout giving me a squeaky bum moment atm

Elvis Santana (stevie), Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link

being honest, i was tempted to not bother,
but i decided that i needed to show an example to mk2, so i killed his ps3 groove and dragged him along.
kids gotta learn.

mark e, Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link

You'd have fun with an Irish election ballot then
http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2346967.1441884614!/image/image.jpg

tay.ai fan (seandalai), Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:38 (eight years ago) link

ok, that's actually ridiculous.
like anyone give a top 10 rundown on a bunch of political hopeful unknowns.

mark e, Thursday, 5 May 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link

Voted Sexton.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 May 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link

I think you misspelt 'glorious', mark.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 5 May 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link

Haha and fair fucks to whoever filled in that ballot, that's the ex-webmaster from my old (Dermot Desmond-ran) company for the Socialist Party at #1.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 5 May 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link

I think you misspelt 'glorious', mark.

fair play, i scrunched my eyebrows, and then i laughed.

mark e, Thursday, 5 May 2016 21:31 (eight years ago) link

https://londonelects.org.uk/im-voter/election-results/live-count-progress-2016?contest=23

In previous elections, the leader after 20% or so have been counted has been the eventual winner. Based on that, I'm calling in for Khan. And I for one welcome our new bus driver's son slightly resembling a tortoise that's lost its shell overlord.

a defense for Euro-Blackface (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:35 (eight years ago) link

LibDems in fourth place!

Matt DC, Friday, 6 May 2016 09:36 (eight years ago) link

Khan would surely be ahead on second-preference votes as well?

Matt DC, Friday, 6 May 2016 09:37 (eight years ago) link

You'd think. This one's done.

a defense for Euro-Blackface (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:39 (eight years ago) link

Looks like the counters in Bexley and Bromley really want to knock off early for Friday afternoon pints.

Tim, Friday, 6 May 2016 09:42 (eight years ago) link

Gap likely to get bigger as the other constituencies catch up. Wonder if Khan can do it on first prefs?

a defense for Euro-Blackface (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:45 (eight years ago) link

In a move to make you guys feel old, Amber voted for the first time yesterday.

Mark G, Friday, 6 May 2016 09:49 (eight years ago) link

Jesus! Congrats Amber!

Elvis Santana (stevie), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:52 (eight years ago) link

lol @ Havering and Redbridge, where Labour's Ivana Bortoletti is leading the Assembly vote, but Goldsmith is leading for Mayor. Stay classy, Essex borders.

a defense for Euro-Blackface (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 6 May 2016 10:07 (eight years ago) link

Wait, Amber is a small child. That can't be right.

xposts

ailsa, Friday, 6 May 2016 10:11 (eight years ago) link

In a move to make you guys feel old, Amber voted for the first time yesterday.

0_o

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Friday, 6 May 2016 10:14 (eight years ago) link

Tories gained 16 seats in Scotland? The fuck's going on.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 6 May 2016 10:14 (eight years ago) link

now the tories can be tartan tories too along with snp and labour

conrad, Friday, 6 May 2016 10:16 (eight years ago) link

Unionists being honest for a change?

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Friday, 6 May 2016 10:18 (eight years ago) link

Also Ruth Davidson.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Friday, 6 May 2016 10:18 (eight years ago) link

lots of "she's a genuinely nice person" stuff about Davidson, and while I think some effective opposition to the SNP is long overdue, a good person she is not.

ghosts that don't exist (Neil S), Friday, 6 May 2016 10:20 (eight years ago) link

Quite possibly starting with the fact that Ruth Davidson is more credible than Kezia Dugdale (tbf, that's quite a low bar) - ha xpost. They're making an argument on BBC right now that it's because she's disassociated the Scottish Conservatives from the national party and concentrated just on what they can do for Scotland.

Also the list vote is a load of old arse. The #bothvotesSNP thing has spectacularly backfired (I gave my second vote to the Greens, but I suspect a lot of people went SNP both.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/14471421.Iain_Macwhirter__How_to_handle_the_weird_science_of_Holyrood_list_vote/

Under the d'Hondt method, the number of votes a party wins on the regional list is divided by the number of constituency seats they have won plus one. This sounds like weird science, but it’s actually fairly simple. In Glasgow there are nine constituency seats and seven list seats up for grabs. Say the SNP win all nine constituency seats in Glasgow and also get 100,000 list votes. Their list votes will be divided, in the first round, by their nine seats plus one, meaning that they effectively have only 10,000 votes in the list. That may not be enough to win any list seats.

If Labour win no constituency seats in Glasgow, but get 80,000 votes on the list, they would end up possibly having all 7 of the list seats. Though, obviously, other parties like the Tories or Greens, might also win seats here. There are seven rounds of calculations on the list votes. It's estimated that if a party gets around six per cent of the list votes in any region it will get a seat. On recent polls, the independence-supporting Scottish Green Party could get around eight list seats across Scotland

ailsa, Friday, 6 May 2016 10:21 (eight years ago) link

As I understand it, the SNP got about 110,000 list votes in Glasgow, which wasn't enough to get them a single list seat due to taking all the constituency seats

(note, I read that earlier on Twitter, will see if I can back that up at all)

ailsa, Friday, 6 May 2016 10:23 (eight years ago) link

lots of "she's a genuinely nice person" stuff about Davidson, and while I think some effective opposition to the SNP is long overdue, a good person she is not.

Not about whether she's nice or not so much as impressive in a Sturgeonesque manner, if you like. Scotland's politics now seems so divorced from England's it's almost on its way to some sort of Ulster situation.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Friday, 6 May 2016 10:28 (eight years ago) link

Go down the bottom here and click on regions:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2016/scotland/results

SNP had 41.7% of the regional vote and got 4 list MSPs. Tories had 22.9% and got 24.

A bit more awareness of how it works wouldn't have gone amiss.

ailsa, Friday, 6 May 2016 10:28 (eight years ago) link


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