Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

Go down the bottom here and click on regions:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2016/scotland/results

SNP had 41.7% of the regional vote and got 4 list MSPs. Tories had 22.9% and got 24.

A bit more awareness of how it works wouldn't have gone amiss.

xp yeah that's a good way of putting it.

lol @ Havering and Redbridge, where Labour's Ivana Bortoletti is leading the Assembly vote, but Goldsmith is leading for Mayor. Stay classy, Essex borders.

No idea why I feel like reading this charitably but this gap could be explained (in large part) by UKIP voters tactically voting Goldsmith because they know the UKIPdude has no chance?

yeah, I noticed that, just fancied a cheap shot.

:) Fair enough.

Has the Corbyn team put any particular effort into Scotland over the past few months or have they just let Dugdale and co get on with it in the hope that some vague socialist cred might win people back? I can't recall seeing Corbyn talk about Scotland at all.

I basically think a lot of people didn't realise that the regional list is basically a top-up system. It's not a bad system if you get how it works. Like, I knew the SNP were going to take Renfrewshire, so we weren't going to get to top up our regional MSP allocation with even more ScotNats, so I went for who I'd like to see in Holyrood alongside them. The SNP failing to explain this and going "vote us for everything and let us take over the whole country" (which people thought could happen) handed the Tories a lifeline.

The Tories got a decent percentage of the votes across the country (why that happened is a separate issue) and got a fair representation in Holyrood as a result. That's pretty democratic. But if people had used their regional vote to dilute the pool rather than going "SNP good, everyone else bad", then perhaps the Tories wouldn't be the second largest party in Scotland right now.

xpost - I don't think that hope realistically existed - from a brutally pragmatic point of view a lot of the MSPs were dead men walking and setting Scottish Labour to rights is going to be a lot easier without them.

Nothing Corbyn could've done in Scotland.

So in places like Southampton it looks like Corbyn isn't excatly unelectable. If Khan is confirmed as London mayor I expect Corbyn remain leader by 2020 election.

Back to the future. It's taken them a long time but the Scottish Tories seem to have managed to put some distance between themselves and the 'national' party, in a way that Scottish Labour has been unable, and possibly unwilling, to do.

The Tories haven't really moved their Scottish vote an inch: share is at 22%, which is where it has hovered since 1997. It really is a matter of Labour undertaking them, afaict

They have been under-represented in the past and now they seem to be over-represented - a bit like the Doors being overrated in the past and being underrated now... or vice versa.

No idea why I feel like reading this charitably but this gap could be explained (in large part) by UKIP voters tactically voting Goldsmith because they know the UKIPdude has no chance?

Goldsmith and Labour assembly candidate both ahead in my constituency, Camden and Barnet, too.

But this is all first-place votes. May be quite a lot people (like me) who put a small party candidate first for mayor and Khan second. Doubt that happens as much for Goldsmith.

Dunno could be a few UKIP voters doing that?

OK, but I doubt there are many in Camden.

Bastards are everywhere these days

Just going by this, really: https://londonelects.org.uk/im-voter/election-results/live-count-progress-2016?contest=25

Thanks for link. Good to see my previous home borough appears to have voted Labour in massive numbers, Chingford wankers notwithstanding.

The only election I could've voted in yesterday was for a police commissioner and as it was I was out of town for the entire time the voting office was open, so I have to live vicariously through the London elections instead.

Lol at the Evening Standard dedicating their entire front page to Boaty McBoatface rather than acknowledging the whipping their boy is getting.

So far, Lib Dems down in 4th place but, better still, Galloway in 6th, behind the Women's Equality Party candidate.

Looks like it is going to be close between the BNP and the Polish fantasist with a made up title.

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Honestly at the start of the campaign I thought Goldsmith would win this pretty easily, which says a lot about how awful his campaign has been on almost every level.

I have a possibly city-vain idea that Lynton Crosby-style Fear, Divide and Conquer strategies don't really work in places as connected and interwoven as London.

Maybe Goldsmith's campaign was basically sacrificed a while back, and the racist fear-mongering was aimed at propping up tory vote elsewhere in the country.

Honestly at the start of the campaign I thought Goldsmith would win this pretty easily, which says a lot about how awful his campaign has been on almost every level.

Yeah, I thought the next mayor would be Labour until Goldsmith entered the race, at which point I thought "Shit, he'll play well with a lot of people". But no, car crash.

last time labour was in power in London under a tory government at westminster, the latter abolished the GLC. Maybe some of the more paranoiac rhetoric has been about preparing the ground for another Reichsexekution. What happened to Lutfur Rahman was possibly a dry run.

Think the Tories panicked when they realized he was just an impeccably ruffled but stylish, impossibly good looking plank of wood.

Goldsmith is just terrible at the basic things you expect politicians to be able to do, like talk to crowds and think on their feet. I am reading The Decline And Fall of the British Aristocracy at the moment and the parallels between him and late era young patricians who felt they needed to enter politics but found it boring and mystifying and couldn't engage with any of the electorate are glaring.

In the end, racism was all he had to fall back on but, even then, he looked like a patsy fronting a campaign he didn't fully believe in.

Honestly at the start of the campaign I thought Goldsmith would win this pretty easily, which says a lot about how awful his campaign has been on almost every level.

and khan has really not needed to do anything at all!

last time labour was in power in London under a tory government at westminster, the latter abolished the GLC.

There's a common thread running through all of this and he did his best to derail the Khan campaign this time around. I just can't imagine Khan running London is such a boneheaded, obviously self-destructive way as Livingstone did.

It'll be weird having a mayor who isn't a self-promoting arsehole, actually.

Ooft http://twitter.com/Jemima_Khan/status/728650886050922496

Who is she? Why has she named herself Goldsmith and Khan?

she's Zac's sister and ex wife of Imran.

As the result became clear, Conservatives turned on Goldsmith’s campaign. Former Conservative party chairman, Lady Warsi described it as an “appalling dog whistle campaign” and said it “lost us the election, our reputation and credibility on issues of race and religion”.

Roger Evans, the outgoing deputy mayor, said Goldsmith’s “very foolish” campaign left a “negative legacy which we in London are going to have to clear up long after the people who ran Zac Goldsmith’s campaign have gone on their way”.

It would have been a bit more meaningful to criticise him at the time rather than post-getting his sorry arse whupped.

In fairness, Warsi has been vocally critical for quite some time.

This is, above all else, a genuinely significant historical moment.Has any European capital had a Muslim mayor before?

sarajevo

Constantinople

the prefectural capital bradfordabad, wilayat bradfordistan, people's republic of south yorkshire

Letterkenny

Muslim mayors of Europe is my new band

(west yorkhire) xps

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Shpend A. Ahmeti (born 18 April 1978) is a prominent politician of Kosovo. He was leader of the New Spirit Party, which has since been merged into Vetëvendosje!, of which he is vice chairman. He is currently the Mayor-elect of Pristina. Ahmeti ended 15 years of LDK tenure in the capital of Kosovo. Ahmeti lectured public policy at the American University in Kosovo until he became mayor.[2][3][4]

In the first round of elections on 3 November 2013, Ahmeti was some 8,000 votes behind Isa Mustafa, but in the second round on 1 December 2013 he won by some 2,500 votes. Mustafa accused Ahmeti of fraud.[5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16]

can we get confirmation that Dick Whittington was radicalised whilst trading in Yemen?

He was turned around, yes.

And so it begins https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/728974667852201984