Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

If I were an aspiring PM who was virtually guaranteed to win the next election provided I could secure the nomination I might be inclined to be a bit more circumspect about a massive supranational entity that I would need to deal with regardless once in power.

and, Matt DC, is why you are not lol a legernd

He so is.

Natalie Bennett to step down as Green Party leader. Pretty much hopeless from start to finish.

I was flicking through the Sunday Telegraph yesterday and happened across this which seems worth sharing:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/05/15/BOB150516-large_trans++eo_i_u9APj8RuoebjoAHt0k9u7HhRJvuo-ZLenGRumA.jpg

a lot to unpack here, probably needs its own thread/poll

ban foreign government

more like BFJ

idgi

the middle word is profane

no idg cartoon

There is a suitcase of jars, one of which is labelled "sovreignty", which a floppy-haired giant has unpacked and is contemplating, for some reason

.... has unpacked from a suitcase labelled 'dreams' - but labelled in the inside because otherwise you wouldn't be able to see that it is labelled 'dreams'.

TBF there's no way the suitcase could be closed with those jars in it anyway so it might as well be labelled on the inside.

Also the jar he's contemplating has the door to 10 Downing Street, not a switch that says in/out, which confused me for a bit.

I thought it was a signed copy of 10 Little Indians :(

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_W1zTZKL45w0/TMHIqxpcskI/AAAAAAAAAzM/DyB7KssFNjg/s400/brant2.png

Has he been playing hurling or something?

I'm slightly concerned about the perceived need to drag Twitter personality Ed Balls out of his voter-imposed exile.

Neil S totally OTM

I refuse to believe I'm the only person in the sweet spot between being old enough to have read the BFG as a child and being young enough to have retained the faculties required to remember the plot.

apparently the home office has banned people in immigration detention centres from access to social media. not sure if there is any plausible explanation that isn't v shady

https://medium.com/@TheRehn/the-uk-home-office-has-just-officially-banned-access-to-social-media-and-instant-messaging-to-6f46ba798d0#.1550qmnyv

The detention system is all kinds of fucked up. Detainees are allowed phones but not if they have cameras, for instance.

If I was a conspiracy theorist I might be just beginning to think Boris is a Remain plant, sent in to sabotage the Leave campaign. I've just watched him give a speech, on the same day that Cameron and Osborne have ratcheted up the post-exit economic doom and gloom, where he actually brought up the EU Want to Straighten Our Bananas story - and it wasn't a joke or an aside. Has he lost it or what?

He never had it. But I'm fine with him fucking up the Brexit tbh.

... and his political future, yes, bring it on.

I was getting slightly concerned while looking at the voting intentions of the over 50s who are much more likely to turn out than any other demographic but the current Trump-narrated campaign against the Nefarious Turk suggests Leave are beyond desperate at this point.

Complacency on the Stay side is the enemy. I don't know what the answer is, though.

If I was a conspiracy theorist I might be just beginning to think Boris is a Remain plant, sent in to sabotage the Leave campaign. I've just watched him give a speech, on the same day that Cameron and Osborne have ratcheted up the post-exit economic doom and gloom, where he actually brought up the EU Want to Straighten Our Bananas story - and it wasn't a joke or an aside. Has he lost it or what?

it's p much all he's got isnt it? can't do immigration, as he doesn't want the campaign to lean that way and anyway he's already stated he's pro, can't do brexit policy, because er there isn't one (other than "out"), economic argument is on its last legs, not cos of crap In campaign but bcos it's rapidly running out of any support whatsoever, all you've got left are

STRATE BANANAS

and phosphorus in washing powder of course

Good choice to lead the Leave campaign.

Breaking news:

Boris Johnson: "I was wrong about bananas..."

grim lols http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/22/labour-activists-in-2015-were-like-middle-class-ryanair-passengers

In the forthcoming work, edited by the backbencher Tristram Hunt

I imagine he travels on Ryanair all the time.

Leaving aside the bigger problems with the Cruddas / Hunt campaign to patronise the working class, it is nagl to trash volunteers who gave up time to help candidates who had failed to build up their own local support base.

Pretty sure Boris has no strong feelings about the EU and is probably, at heart, in favour of remain. The only motivation he has for running the Brexit campaign is to enhance his prospects of becoming next leader of the Tory party, and those prospects won't be harmed by losing the referendum. It's pretty obvious his heart's not in this.

lol just looking up soups in my delia smith cookbook because - well, see the dentist thread and

"Since EC regulations took effect our delicious Fenland celery is not allowed to be called that, so my local greengrocer refers to it quite affectionately as 'dirty celery'..."

http://www.fenlandcelery.com/

Fenland celery is part of an exclusive club of quality British foods that have earned Protected Geographical Indication (PGI) status from the European Commission.

There will be punch-ups in the Tory party for years afterwards, whatever happens.

standard operating procedure for the Tories since at least Thatcher. if BJ anticipates an increased majority in 2020 he might well think it worthwhile to at least court the country bumpkin contingent

Yeah Boris's position in the Leave campaign is a posture I think, it's unlikely that he actually wants to leave the EU. Assuming he wins the Tory nomination and becomes PM (a big if) he just doesn't strike me as the sort of politician who would want to lead the country through a messy and uncertain EU exit.

OTOH if Remain wins and Boris does become PM, then the cries of betrayal from thwarted leavers would be so loud that it might bounce him into calling another referendum anyway.

lol r u suggesting there may be few sour grapes from the Leave campaign in Remain wins

if

Ryanair up 42% this year so tbrr theres not really any comparison btwn them and any part of uk labour

Ed Milliband was much more impressive on Question Time there than he ever was as leader, sadly. He was genuinely good there.

this sounds somewhat ominous:

The Labour leader’s inner circle has also had “tense discussions”over a decision to allow a film crew from Vice Media to follow Corbyn for several weeks. It is understood the fly-on-the-wall documentary, which will be broadcast next week, was signed off by Corbyn’s communications chief, Seumas Milne.

Some Corbynites fear they could be ridiculed in the film, while others have objected to having their faces broadcast and have asked to be edited out.

“People said they turned round to find a camera shoved in their face while discussing policy matters,” one source said. “There has been a lot of anger about the decision to let in a film crew at a time when we are under a lot of pressure. We could, through the editing process, be made to look like idiots. Vice are not averse to taking the piss.”

maybe we'll get a 21c version of Yesterday's Men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYcigddR-Hk

https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/736834684458504192

This is going to be fun. I'd be surprised if fewer than a couple of dozen MPs tried to trigger a no confidence vote in Cameron if Remain wins, given that 25 did in 2013 with less of a reason. Could hit the 50 required.

"a live boy or a dead girl"? could be in the interest of public safety to reveal this mp's name

It's a famous quote I think?

Edwin Edwards, Governor of Louisiana, 1983:

"The only way I can lose this election is if I’m caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."

I don't really get it though, if Leave wins then Cameron will have to go. His position would be untenable and he's probably privately already prepared to resign in that effect, same as with Scotland.

If Remain wins (and unless it's really narrow), then tough shit, Leavers. OTOH they might decide to tear him down anyway out of sheer spite. Maybe there's something big lurking in Cameron's past we don't know about, but hey he got away with having put his cock in a dead pig.