Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

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Because obviously hardcore nationalists would never do anything violent. They have no previous history of that sort of behaviour at all.

emil.y, Thursday, 16 June 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/False_flag

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 June 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link

Depressing how this US Far Right garbage is influencing our, eh, UK Far Right garbage. False flag, Generation Snowflake, blah blah blah, it'll be cucks and libtards next.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 15:00 (seven years ago) link

She's one of the names I seem to see a lot amongst right wing types online. Not sure why specifically.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 16 June 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

Or maybe I'm confusing her for someone else? I can't seem to find many mentions of her now. Certainly the idiots claiming false flag at no surprise.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 16 June 2016 15:21 (seven years ago) link

Jayda Fransen, deputy leader of Britain First, said the party was “looking into the reports right now”. “We were extremely shocked to see these reports and we are keen to confirm them, because of course at the moment it is hearsay,” she said. “This has just been brought to our attention. This is absolutely not the kind of behaviour we would condone.”

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Analogue Bubblebutt (jed_), Thursday, 16 June 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

Thanks for the explanation. This is fucking crazy, I hope she survives.

plums (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 16 June 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

don't really know much about britain first, look like a cross between russian paramilitaries and people who work at a wyevale garden centre?

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3928128/thumbs/o-JAYDA-FRANSEN-570.jpg

real orgone kid (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

i do know that i never ever want to be stranded on a island with them please

real orgone kid (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

useless bbc keep talking about her in the past tense ffs

pandemic, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

i mean, jfc is this sort of thing not ringing any bells with people -->

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3923258/thumbs/o-BRITAIN-FIRST-570.jpg

real orgone kid (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:08 (seven years ago) link

The bbc had a documentary about them a couple months back. They are essentially a post-edl meme factory who go around and bully people of other ethnicities until those people get pissed off, which is when they turn the camera on and say "omg look at what these thugs did to innocent me". This has then elevated to edl-esque support, awkward america style christianity tie ins, rallies and getting garden variety centre right types to share parts of their agenda online even if they dont know more than the facebook post. I know ive had to tell my mother off for it more than once.

plums (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

garden variety centre right types

Thanks to Nick B I read this as "garden centre variety types".

emil.y, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

jeez

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

jesus r.i.p

pandemic, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

She has died :'( What a tragedy.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

god, that's devastating news. so sad and angry.

The Nickelbackean Ethics (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

oh fuck

real orgone kid (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

Nooo oh that's tragic. RIP.

Analogue Bubblebutt (jed_), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link

Fucking hell. This is so awful.

emil.y, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link

And how many more people of that type stockpiling weapons?

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link

completely chilling and tragic

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link

RIP. Awful. I hope this wakes people up to these far right cunts though.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link

terrible. rip.

the toast of every coast (cajunsunday), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

unbelievable. just awful.

goole, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

Sad and angry. RIP.

jedi slimane (suzy), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link

It is absolutely horrible. Her poor family.

I wonder where he got the gun from. I know there are pockets of gun crime in inner cities but if this guy was an older loner type, its got to be something else than what the news usually focuses on

plums (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

The early reports said it was unusual and might be homemade.

This is terrifying. The first MP murdered since Ian Gow. She had two small children who went on the Thames protest with her yesterday.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

Oh that's awful!

Pastoral Fantasy (jed_), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link

so awful

Oh baby, if only you knew / Gabnebb hit a hundred-and-two (stevie), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

RIP.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

As far as who Britain First are, there are lots of the online Right who consider Paul Golding a hero for turning his back on Sadiq Khan. He ran (terribly) or mayor of London.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

Attacker had far right connections but also previous mental health issues.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link

I wonder which the right-wing media will decide had more influence.

emil.y, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link

everybody accepts that just because a lone psychopath publicly aligns themselves with a political cause it doesn't mean they are a representative or product of that cause

Terminator Brexit (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

With husband and daughters on the Thames yesterday.

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/8461/production/_89998833_brendancox_blurred_976.jpg

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

or product of that cause

Probably too soon to have this discussion but what about the rhetoric the organisation pumps out - sure it matters whether they directly 'sent' him or not, probably they wouldn't be so stupid as to do that - but we've all seen what they put out on facebook for millions of people to see

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

i was being sarcastic in a way that i'd probably FP somebody else for being.

sure this conversation will be had elsewhere, but as far as it touches on the EU referendum and the nauseating moron conspiracy theories that are gonna be everywhere i think i'd better shut up and sit it out

Terminator Brexit (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

am spiralling into this void of anger, fear and despair here. fuck fuck fucking hell

real orgone kid (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link

Had no problems with that sarcasm tbh. (xp)

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

London Black Revs timeline on Twitter worth a look rn

jedi slimane (suzy), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link

I was just moaning about how lawless Batley is getting after having a skirmish with some ignorant thug arseholes who were making disablist comments to my son outside Tesco on saturday. But despite what the area is like you really wouldn't expect to get murdered in broad daylight in Birstall :(

calzino, Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link

Donald Trump just tweeted 'AMERICA FIRST!'

I don't want to live on this planet any more.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link

From following this at work I'd somehow misunderstood that she had survived the attack and was stable in hospital, what a horrendous thing

From following the BBC coverage it was difficult to ascertain that there was any apparent connection to the referendum at all, aside from a lone confusing-in-context reference to campaigning being suspended on both sides

I know they need to avoid fanning the flames by carelessly reporting unconfirmed info but the neutrality just seems bogus and sinister when it's a prominent Remain campaigner getting murdered in public during a notably hysterical referendum campaign

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

Scratch that, he tweeted it two days ago, sorry

Xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

I just heard about this. I'm sorry to hear about it. Absolutely tragic.

how's life, Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link

@NV sorry didn't get the sarcasm there

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

don't worry, as i say i had second thoughts soon as i posted

Terminator Brexit (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link

No worries.

@Dadjokke The exact recipe for this behaviour is always complicated, but this time ... I don't know what Britain First have been saying about the EU referendum specifically but ...

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link


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