Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

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jesus r.i.p

pandemic, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

She has died :'( What a tragedy.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

god, that's devastating news. so sad and angry.

The Nickelbackean Ethics (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

oh fuck

real orgone kid (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

Nooo oh that's tragic. RIP.

Analogue Bubblebutt (jed_), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link

Fucking hell. This is so awful.

emil.y, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link

And how many more people of that type stockpiling weapons?

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link

completely chilling and tragic

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link

RIP. Awful. I hope this wakes people up to these far right cunts though.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link

terrible. rip.

the toast of every coast (cajunsunday), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

unbelievable. just awful.

goole, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

Sad and angry. RIP.

jedi slimane (suzy), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link

It is absolutely horrible. Her poor family.

I wonder where he got the gun from. I know there are pockets of gun crime in inner cities but if this guy was an older loner type, its got to be something else than what the news usually focuses on

plums (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

The early reports said it was unusual and might be homemade.

This is terrifying. The first MP murdered since Ian Gow. She had two small children who went on the Thames protest with her yesterday.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

Oh that's awful!

Pastoral Fantasy (jed_), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link

so awful

Oh baby, if only you knew / Gabnebb hit a hundred-and-two (stevie), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

RIP.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

As far as who Britain First are, there are lots of the online Right who consider Paul Golding a hero for turning his back on Sadiq Khan. He ran (terribly) or mayor of London.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

Attacker had far right connections but also previous mental health issues.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link

I wonder which the right-wing media will decide had more influence.

emil.y, Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link

everybody accepts that just because a lone psychopath publicly aligns themselves with a political cause it doesn't mean they are a representative or product of that cause

Terminator Brexit (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

With husband and daughters on the Thames yesterday.

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/8461/production/_89998833_brendancox_blurred_976.jpg

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

or product of that cause

Probably too soon to have this discussion but what about the rhetoric the organisation pumps out - sure it matters whether they directly 'sent' him or not, probably they wouldn't be so stupid as to do that - but we've all seen what they put out on facebook for millions of people to see

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

i was being sarcastic in a way that i'd probably FP somebody else for being.

sure this conversation will be had elsewhere, but as far as it touches on the EU referendum and the nauseating moron conspiracy theories that are gonna be everywhere i think i'd better shut up and sit it out

Terminator Brexit (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

am spiralling into this void of anger, fear and despair here. fuck fuck fucking hell

real orgone kid (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link

Had no problems with that sarcasm tbh. (xp)

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

London Black Revs timeline on Twitter worth a look rn

jedi slimane (suzy), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link

I was just moaning about how lawless Batley is getting after having a skirmish with some ignorant thug arseholes who were making disablist comments to my son outside Tesco on saturday. But despite what the area is like you really wouldn't expect to get murdered in broad daylight in Birstall :(

calzino, Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link

Donald Trump just tweeted 'AMERICA FIRST!'

I don't want to live on this planet any more.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link

From following this at work I'd somehow misunderstood that she had survived the attack and was stable in hospital, what a horrendous thing

From following the BBC coverage it was difficult to ascertain that there was any apparent connection to the referendum at all, aside from a lone confusing-in-context reference to campaigning being suspended on both sides

I know they need to avoid fanning the flames by carelessly reporting unconfirmed info but the neutrality just seems bogus and sinister when it's a prominent Remain campaigner getting murdered in public during a notably hysterical referendum campaign

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

Scratch that, he tweeted it two days ago, sorry

Xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

I just heard about this. I'm sorry to hear about it. Absolutely tragic.

how's life, Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link

@NV sorry didn't get the sarcasm there

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

don't worry, as i say i had second thoughts soon as i posted

Terminator Brexit (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link

No worries.

@Dadjokke The exact recipe for this behaviour is always complicated, but this time ... I don't know what Britain First have been saying about the EU referendum specifically but ...

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link

ugh, this is horrible, RIP

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

the sun calling him a "loner"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

this kind of murder...not a good look trying to score any kind of political point off it right now.

which isn't to say that all murder isn't political in a complex set of ways, but plugging into a reductive "Team A/Team B" football politics feels sick to me

Terminator Brexit (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/a-day-of-infamy/

decent piece by massie

The Nickelbackean Ethics (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link

I've been a bit weirded out about people using it to score points about remaining in the EU, even though she was an ardent Remain supporter, but I think it's pretty fucking clear this is a political act carried out by a racist right-winger, it *IS* political, inherently.

xp

emil.y, Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

Sure - difficult to do the maths on whether he was influenced by BF and/or the Leave campaign, plus Orlando shooting and football fights ... then if he was, what is the correct way to address this xxp

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

i'm expecting reductive political point scoring ("someone on team a did a bad thing therefore team b is the best", etc.), which i agree is nagl, but this is a political murder in a pretty simple way tbh. it was the murder of a politician by a man shouting the name of a political party. basically http://gawker.com/5927847/there-is-no-such-thing-as-politicizing-a-tragedy

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

i mean based on what we know now, this is literally the dictionary definition of assassination.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link

It's possible he might have been shouting "Britain first" not "Britain First".

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

... sorry if that sounds like a stupid thing to say.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

certainly got no intention of playing Cap'n Save-a-Nazi, so won't add anything now. will say the story is still unfolding.

Terminator Brexit (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link

London Black Revs said this:

Tommy Mair, arrested shooter. Batley, West Yorkshire
+ 2006 - had a subscription to an Anti-ANC Pro White South African Magazine.
+ Now Named by the BBC and Independent, Guardian, Mirror.
+ House is Cordoned Off and confirmed by Neighbours.
+ White Nationalist Political Interests
+ Shooter's former address - Fieldhead Estate
+ Subscription to SpringBok publication, a pro white supremacist organisation. Now split to 'Swinton Circle', which are still active and organising with Pegida.
+ His most likely political links are probably with Britain First.
Tommy Meir's had affiliations to an organisation called 'SpringBok' their motto is '"Out of Europe and into the World". Highly motivated against Labour's "racism" towards white people. A pro white supremacist south african organisation in exile in Britain.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link

Nick Griffin
‏@NickGriffinBU

If #JoCox dies (& we all pray she doesn't) just watch #Remain exploit the tragedy in attempt to shore up their crumbling blackmail campaign

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

Between this and the Farage poster this morning this is honestly the worst single day I can remember in British politics. Just... where does this end?

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

Also let's stop pretending that mental illness has nothing to do with government policy or structural conditions in society ffs.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link


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