Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

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stupid question but is turnout a % of people who've registered to vote, or of all people of voting age etc?

kinder, Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

the latter

ghosts that don't exist (Neil S), Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link

I wonder about the effect that a remain vote will have on the right (especially the far right). The narrative has to change from Britain being a victim of Europe to something else. Their countrymen are no longer fellow victims but participants in their perceived oppression; collaborators or, at best, dupes. Obviously there is already a lot of that rhetoric on the far right, but I worry that it might increase it.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

how long does it take for them to delete the croakers off the electoral register? There seems to have been a lot of dead voter fraud in the US in recent years but I can't recall much here.

calzino, Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link

how long does it take for them to delete the croakers off the electoral register?

back in the happy times of 2012 : when you registered a death, there was a single form that was for all various govt departments.

of course this may have been killed off, but i got a very quick acknowledgement re bh in regards to her benefits/electoral role etc.

was all rather impressive given the usual ineptitude that we have come to accept.

mark e, Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

:(

who is the form team atm for tv coverage - bbc or itv?

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

Sorry I used such an indelicate term mark. I was more thinking about 90 year old Tories when I posted.

calzino, Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

'so, if I vote for "Leave", that means "Leave it as it is?""

Mark G, Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

(In before expiry)

Mark G, Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing in ooh, two minutes.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

Sorry I used such an indelicate term mark. I was more thinking about 90 year old Tories when I posted.

not a problem.
i know that.

mark e, Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

Does that mean Farage has seen some of the private exit polls?

calzino, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

he is an ex-banker and the polls were conducted by banks right?

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

Pound gone nuts http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GBPUSD=X

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link

92% remain according to bookies now

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

Is that a glitch? Pound fell 17 cents against the dollar three minutes after polls closed and then immediately recovered?

Michael Jones, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

I wonder about the effect that a remain vote will have on the right (especially the far right). The narrative has to change from Britain being a victim of Europe to something else.

It will change to Britain being a victim of the vote being a con, picking up a few nasty intimations on the way (you can see that on that tweet, people already mad that there's been fraud by 'globalists').

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

If it's close they will be absolutely sure they would have won without Cox dying.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

No one at this point is doubting it will be a remain right? Just seems it's v important if remain strikes up either 50-55% (bad for all involved) or 56% and up (not good but better for all involved). If it's not distinctive a choice, the UK an EU will keep each other in a stronghold. Stand stil.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

I wonder if farage will resign again.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link

I wouldn't count any chickens at this stage. Turnout will be crucial.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I considered taking a half day tomorrow but then I remembered how that went last time.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

The enormous pound spike thing is probably real but isn't necessarily due to large trades. Most markets are shut right now.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link

IN, IN, IN, IN, IN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmmZHN0Wi-w

hairy banjo (jed_), Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

LBI, is there much appetite for a proper referendum (rather than a proxy referendum on Ukrainian potato tariffs) in the Netherlands?

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

odds are way in favour for remain - 9-1 v 1-11 - fear the fallout but at least it's looking good for the present

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link

Sadly, ShariVari, there is. Same right wing nutters that threw that disgrace of a Ukranian referendum in our lap are already ligned up. Wilders - our Farage but even more of a blatant racist - orgasms at the very idea of a "Nexit". And he's the biggest party in the polls. Still, a Nexit referendum would require a change of the constitution, which would take years so is disheartening for the far right.

So it won't happen soon. But are these truly dark times? Most definitely.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link

IPSOS MORI Brexit poll Remain 54% Leave 46%
fwiw

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link

Now I've got the phrase "lorem ipsos, memento mori" going round in my head. Stupid brainworms.

emil.y, Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link

Ben Riley-Smith
‏@benrileysmith

HOW PARTIES VOTED
(YouGov poll)
Tory 43 Remain, 57 Leave
Labour 69 Remain, 31 Leave
Libs 73 Remain, 27 Leave
Ukip: 7 Remain, 93 Leave

coygbiv (NickB), Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link

Lol, why would any UKIP people vote remain?!

emil.y, Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link

Ukip: 7 Remain, 93 Leave

clearly there were some that did not quite realise the whole point of UKIPs raison d'etre.

mark e, Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

xpost.

mark e, Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:23 (seven years ago) link

they used pencils

(stolen joek)

stet, Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:23 (seven years ago) link

Hahahaha

emil.y, Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A4o4Cditrb8

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

Argh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4o4Cditrb8

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

GIBRALTAR SPEAKS

Η‚bait (seandalai), Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link

Hoping for a leave vote from a short term financial perspective

calstars, Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link

lol at the daily mail's front page https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/746090745560440835

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link

Farage essentially throwing the towel. That's early.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

HOW AGES VOTED
(YouGov poll)
18-24: 75% Remain
25-49: 56% Remain
50-64: 44% Remain
65+: 39% Remain
#EUref

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link

That's the key one^

hairy banjo (jed_), Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link

Fwiw my 82 year old mum and 83 year old neighbour. Neighbour's explanation was that "ye already don't know where ye soon with these nutcasees" (ston=stand)

hairy banjo (jed_), Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

Oops. both voted remain.

hairy banjo (jed_), Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:56 (seven years ago) link

Well I fucked that up good and proper.

hairy banjo (jed_), Thursday, 23 June 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link

newcastle city council's logo is so ugly

soref, Thursday, 23 June 2016 23:00 (seven years ago) link

Oh fuck, Newcastle was one of the safest remainers!

hairy banjo (jed_), Thursday, 23 June 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

I don't know anything about it but apparently Newcastle is a terrible result for Remain. 60-40 was expected.

A heartless anonymous firebrand (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 June 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link


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