Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

We deserve a general election to choose who leads these negotiations, not the fucking 1922

― stet, Friday, June 24, 2016 4:30 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sympathetic to everyone's horror about how limp corbyn's response this morning was, but surely he shd be pushing for an election? i wd have thought there was as good a case for getting out the vote with this in the rearview mirror than at any other time

is there any chance that the severe fallout coupled with the length of time it takes to negotiate an exit could mean this doesn't actually happen? like it feels as though public opinion could change if there are real effects.

You say that but Labour are in such a disarray it wouldn't be able to provide any alternative. xp

I think the only way that would be viable is if there was a general election and a pro-Remain party won a resounding majority but it's a bit of a stretch to see the Lib Dems bouncing back that far. xp

Tebbit has been wheeled in somehow..

Public opinion doesn't even need to change that much. If the remainers had just fucking shown up this might have been won

I don't think this 'shown up' business will stick. The message is clear.

less than 4 points in it, it feels too close

It was Obama/Romney close.

Smaller win than Indyref and that wiped out Labour in Scotland and will probably be won next time round.

it doesn't even fucking work as a concept to have such a big decision where the country is so split

I think for me its a raw number with an increased turnout. Over 50% was the line.

I think it probably was said here, but there's this odd feeling that if it went the other way at this margin, that would never be the end of it, but this way around we're supposed to shut up and put up with it.

it is really weird, that. like as if the drift to the right is some sort of inevitability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q95t2ulrXW4
Father Ted: "Funny how you get more right wing as you get older"

The rest of Europe will make sure of that. Greece was put down brutally and while the UK is nowhere near in the same position the negotiation and the fallout might have to be decisive so that other countries don't follow in this when you've got Le Pen knocking on the door in France. xp

xps to "that would never be the end of it"

Hey, at least we'll get a new hospital built every week now with that £350m we're going to get.

Fuck this country.

Farage has already said it was a "mistake" to claim that and that he never made such a pledge. The absolute cunting übercunt

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cls4mWJXIAAH4ts.jpg

Any thoughts on Nothern Ireland over this - could we see an Indy Ref there?

Sinn Fein already calling for one.

Yeah.

This is on the detail

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n12/francis-fitzgibbon/if-we-leave

62% of Scotland voted to Remain, compared to 55.8% in Northern Ireland. An independence referendum in NI will happen, but there's slightly less pressure for it compared to Scotland.

Peter Smith ‏@Redpeter99 1h1 hour ago

Why is the governor of the Bank of England speaking. Isn't it the job of a bricklayer from Cleckheaton to calm the markets?

pondering the possibility of a new love-in party being formed between pro-EU Tories and pro-Tory Labours

yeah i was wondering about that

btw that piece is on the detail of the negotiation not on NI (obv I had little sleep)

welcome to the bed you made

http://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/update/2016-06-24/cornwall-pleas-for-reassurance-it-will-not-be-worse-off-following-brexit-vote/

a) what was the voting figures in Cornwall?
b) maybe shd've asked the question a couple of days ago

"We will insist..."

So many strong bargaining positions to be seen around this morning.

Sam Parker ‏@JustSamParker 16m16 minutes ago

ITV reporter in Sunderland just nailed it. An awful lot of people felt it can't get any worse for them, so they rolled the dice

Plot against Corbyn etc. #priorities

ITV reporter in Sunderland just nailed it. An awful lot of people felt it can't get any worse for them, so they rolled the dice

They'll soon find out they were wrong when the recession hits but given the choice between permanent austerity and a promise of something better, even if it came with all the detail of a Make America Great Again baseball cap, it's not a surprise so many people went for the latter. The question is, when they get done over again, where that anger gets directed next.

I gues I haven't been here in a while, but this evening signing up for citizenship in a country that thinks operating concentration camps is looking like a good idea. I've always seen myself as a European and I don't feel like the UK is somewhere I want to return to, I have been untethered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0aNxzF7MAk

@realDonaldTrump

Just arrived in Scotland. Place is going wild over the vote. They took their country back, just like we will take America back. No games!

unreal

https://twitter.com/asianyardie/status/746262480649854976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Also, very much this:

@sixsecondshigh 1 hour ago

Be fucked if I'm giving up my seat on the bus for any old people from now on. Bunch of selfish cunts.

xpp no wait, I just checked, it's real

Hmm, much of the young voted Leave - went to sleep for a bit when Sheffield voted Leave - one of those results mentioned in passing I think.

Also Wales/many deprived areas voting out despite much EU money - ultimate limits of regeneration as a practice to keep a lid on very deep problems.

these serfs just don't know what's good for them is the problem

The question is, when they get done over again, where that anger gets directed next.

Yeah this is what has me a bit o_o

it's the environment that i'm most worried for

Well there's a million goddamn things. They're licking their chops, the Tories.

european court of human rights surely.

these serfs just don't know what's good for them is the problem

so much of this sentiment being expressed on my facebook feed right now and i just don't like it very much

Why won't they accept this shiny arts centre/'creative hub' to hang out in - isn't that so much better than working down the pit instead?

it does seem that people don't know what's good for them, i wouldn't call them serfs however. i mean this isn't going to work out well for anyone. no problem with that being pointed out.

we got a city of culture, it's way better than jobs and infrastructure

don't worry tho kids, it's not EU funded