Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

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62% of Scotland voted to Remain, compared to 55.8% in Northern Ireland. An independence referendum in NI will happen, but there's slightly less pressure for it compared to Scotland.

get on (down) / to the funky (sound) / of (snoball), Friday, 24 June 2016 08:55 (seven years ago) link

Peter Smith ‏@Redpeter99 1h1 hour ago

Why is the governor of the Bank of England speaking. Isn't it the job of a bricklayer from Cleckheaton to calm the markets?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 June 2016 08:59 (seven years ago) link

pondering the possibility of a new love-in party being formed between pro-EU Tories and pro-Tory Labours

http://www.jhbooks.com/pictures/137370.jpg (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:00 (seven years ago) link

yeah i was wondering about that

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:08 (seven years ago) link

btw that piece is on the detail of the negotiation not on NI (obv I had little sleep)

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 June 2016 09:08 (seven years ago) link

a) what was the voting figures in Cornwall?
b) maybe shd've asked the question a couple of days ago

http://www.jhbooks.com/pictures/137370.jpg (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:18 (seven years ago) link

"We will insist..."

So many strong bargaining positions to be seen around this morning.

Tim, Friday, 24 June 2016 09:18 (seven years ago) link

Sam Parker ‏@JustSamParker 16m16 minutes ago

ITV reporter in Sunderland just nailed it. An awful lot of people felt it can't get any worse for them, so they rolled the dice

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 June 2016 09:24 (seven years ago) link

Plot against Corbyn etc. #priorities

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 June 2016 09:24 (seven years ago) link

ITV reporter in Sunderland just nailed it. An awful lot of people felt it can't get any worse for them, so they rolled the dice

They'll soon find out they were wrong when the recession hits but given the choice between permanent austerity and a promise of something better, even if it came with all the detail of a Make America Great Again baseball cap, it's not a surprise so many people went for the latter. The question is, when they get done over again, where that anger gets directed next.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:28 (seven years ago) link

I gues I haven't been here in a while, but this evening signing up for citizenship in a country that thinks operating concentration camps is looking like a good idea. I've always seen myself as a European and I don't feel like the UK is somewhere I want to return to, I have been untethered.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:29 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0aNxzF7MAk

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:33 (seven years ago) link

@realDonaldTrump

Just arrived in Scotland. Place is going wild over the vote. They took their country back, just like we will take America back. No games!

groovypanda, Friday, 24 June 2016 09:35 (seven years ago) link

unreal

You're talmbout one of the best PLURs of all time (bernard snowy), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:36 (seven years ago) link

Also, very much this:

@sixsecondshigh 1 hour ago

Be fucked if I'm giving up my seat on the bus for any old people from now on. Bunch of selfish cunts.

groovypanda, Friday, 24 June 2016 09:37 (seven years ago) link

xpp no wait, I just checked, it's real

You're talmbout one of the best PLURs of all time (bernard snowy), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:37 (seven years ago) link

Hmm, much of the young voted Leave - went to sleep for a bit when Sheffield voted Leave - one of those results mentioned in passing I think.

Also Wales/many deprived areas voting out despite much EU money - ultimate limits of regeneration as a practice to keep a lid on very deep problems.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 June 2016 09:40 (seven years ago) link

these serfs just don't know what's good for them is the problem

http://www.jhbooks.com/pictures/137370.jpg (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:41 (seven years ago) link

The question is, when they get done over again, where that anger gets directed next.

Yeah this is what has me a bit o_o

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:42 (seven years ago) link

it's the environment that i'm most worried for

imago, Friday, 24 June 2016 09:42 (seven years ago) link

Well there's a million goddamn things. They're licking their chops, the Tories.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:43 (seven years ago) link

european court of human rights surely.

Fizzles, Friday, 24 June 2016 09:44 (seven years ago) link

these serfs just don't know what's good for them is the problem

so much of this sentiment being expressed on my facebook feed right now and i just don't like it very much

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:44 (seven years ago) link

Why won't they accept this shiny arts centre/'creative hub' to hang out in - isn't that so much better than working down the pit instead?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 June 2016 09:45 (seven years ago) link

it does seem that people don't know what's good for them, i wouldn't call them serfs however. i mean this isn't going to work out well for anyone. no problem with that being pointed out.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:47 (seven years ago) link

we got a city of culture, it's way better than jobs and infrastructure

http://www.jhbooks.com/pictures/137370.jpg (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:47 (seven years ago) link

don't worry tho kids, it's not EU funded

http://www.jhbooks.com/pictures/137370.jpg (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:48 (seven years ago) link

The question is, when they get done over again, where that anger gets directed next.

Yeah this is what has me a bit o_o

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, June 24, 2016 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tom Gann ‏@Tom_Gann 32s33 seconds ago

About that emboldening of racists- I just confronted a pissed guy in the street who was shouting racist & sexist abuse at a black woman.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 June 2016 09:48 (seven years ago) link

That ultimately has to be the core of Corbyn's message. All parties have failed huge sections of the country (effectively everything outside of London and Scotland, and much of that too) and this is the result. If this doesn't make that pretty clear to everyone, nothing will. More of the same from Johnson / worse from the Tory right, isn't a solution.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:49 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cllm1RWWYAEeWLz.jpg

Wales and Kernow, you daft cunts.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 24 June 2016 09:50 (seven years ago) link

lol what

You're talmbout one of the best PLURs of all time (bernard snowy), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:54 (seven years ago) link

oh nvm I see it now
as a geography/GIS student, I would expect failing grades me if I handed in a map as misleading as that!

You're talmbout one of the best PLURs of all time (bernard snowy), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:55 (seven years ago) link

(that image is from here btw)

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 24 June 2016 09:55 (seven years ago) link

do they not have colorblind people in britain, or

You're talmbout one of the best PLURs of all time (bernard snowy), Friday, 24 June 2016 09:56 (seven years ago) link

hey, you've seen the referendum result?

http://www.jhbooks.com/pictures/137370.jpg (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 June 2016 10:02 (seven years ago) link

lol, open goal

You're talmbout one of the best PLURs of all time (bernard snowy), Friday, 24 June 2016 10:03 (seven years ago) link

it's the environment that i'm most worried for

yeah, doesn't look rosy on that front:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/damian-carrington-blog/2016/jun/24/uks-out-vote-is-a-red-alert-for-the-environment

coygbiv (NickB), Friday, 24 June 2016 10:14 (seven years ago) link

Howard Shore, executive chairman of stockbroking firm Shore Capital Group, argues that the British people made the right decision.

[q]We now have a fantastic opportunity to deregulate the economy and better compete on a global stage in the 21st century.

[/q]

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 June 2016 10:16 (seven years ago) link

we haven't got time to worry about the environment, we're too busy hating each other

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 24 June 2016 10:20 (seven years ago) link

it was close enough that, given demographic trends, the majority should go the other way within a few years, no? not sure if I can imagine boris pulling the trigger

ogmor, Friday, 24 June 2016 10:22 (seven years ago) link

isn't it more likely that we'd just renegotiate an effective form of entry without actually re-entering, i mean if public opinion was going that way? i dunno...

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 24 June 2016 10:24 (seven years ago) link

leave now favourite at the bookies

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 24 June 2016 01:07 (9 hours ago) Permalink

the betting markets have gone to leave (narrow) favourites for first time

― rap game lee rigby (nakhchivan), Friday, 24 June 2016 01:08 (9 hours ago) Permalink

lol

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 24 June 2016 10:25 (seven years ago) link

Don't feel quite as gut-punched as after the general last year, although that is partly because I foresaw this happening as a result of the tory majority, so a lot of my grieving process, as it were, has already been gone through as part of that.

It just feels like there's an infinity of Kettering shittowns in England, there's no way for remain

― woof, Friday, June 24, 2016 1:12 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 24 June 2016 10:37 (seven years ago) link

Too much real England.

This also

Louisa Compton Verified account
‏@louisa_compton

With leave voters in Manchester for BBCNews -most told us they woke up thinking "what have I done?" & didn't actually expect the uk to leave

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 June 2016 10:38 (seven years ago) link

They'll soon find out they were wrong when the recession hits

eh it'll still be the foreigners' fault, or Gordon Brown's fault, or Cameron's fault, or anyone's fault except Brexit, and even if there is a sudden public volte-face I don't see it being organised into a "Return" movement/vote, or the EU taking us back in a hurry after all this fannying about

(unless there really is a mass EU collapse and several other countries leave/push for renegotiation, and even then, why take the country that kicked it all off?)

but I am quite politically ignorant and shortsighted and I would like to believe, so... maybe

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 24 June 2016 10:42 (seven years ago) link

can someone explain if we don't invoke art. 50, but eu say no trade negotiations until art. 50 process complete, under what terms trade is conducted until then?

current terms? it would be hard to see how else.

Fizzles, Friday, 24 June 2016 10:42 (seven years ago) link

xp EU leaders are saying that the UK should get on with Article 50 asap. The only way we could back out of leaving the EU would be for the EU to be so disunited that it would probably break up anyway.

get on (down) / to the funky (sound) / of (snoball), Friday, 24 June 2016 10:45 (seven years ago) link

Like if France and Italy both called referendums in the next 12 months and both voted to leave.

get on (down) / to the funky (sound) / of (snoball), Friday, 24 June 2016 10:46 (seven years ago) link


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