Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

corbyn out?

from the FT

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how's life: "The POTUS came here and told us to stay because our negotiating our leave with the EU would be inconvenient for the US and all their *projects* - they need us undistracted to be on call to help at any time. How thoughtful of him."

One of my family got pissed off with POTUS saying we'd be back of the queue and that was one of his many incoherent reasons for voting leave.
The bit about unelected MEPs too.

the interesting thing about present-day nationalism is the extent to which it's an international movement. what's going on in britain is what's going on in america, in the philippines, poland, guatemala, india... the scariest thing about this is not that it's happening, but that it's happening EVERYWHERE, all at once. we could really be well and truly fucked.

Morgan Stanley has begun moving 2,000 investment banking staff from London to Dublin or Frankfurt.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/it-will-take-an-age-to-recover-from-this-victory-for-the-exit-fantasists-zzfpxsc66?bcsi_scan_7f6001589688e1d7=7j661rn41TdRaVGMshevfNVD8pKKAAAATFH/yA==

I have bad news for the Hannans and Goves and Johnsons of this world. This is not your victory. You are free riders on the back of Mr Farage. You have smuggled through your sixth-form reading list politics on the back of Mr Farage’s stoking up of immigration fears. I hope you are proud of yourself and I hope, though I do not expect, that you are ready for what is coming. You have made a promise, whether you realise it or not, to bring down immigration. Even if you find, as you will, that employers rebel because they need the labour, you have promised. You have condemned yourself to leading a government for whom the number of foreigners in the country is the primary issue.

You will then find, of course, that when the white working class says “immigration” it means something more than the presence of Polish plumbers and Romanian fruit pickers. It means that life is hard, that employment prospects are bleak and that work is either unavailable or of really low quality. It is beyond laughable that the exit fantasists have the first idea what to do about this. Frankly most of them have never shown the slightest concern about that before. Well, it’s their problem now.

They are going to find that everything is their problem now. So then exit fantasist, it is time to make good on your histrionic promise of liberty. Everything that happens is on your watch. All the tribulations and vicissitudes of the economy are yours. The pound fell to its lowest point since 1985 and the Bank of England is poised to intervene. Standard and Poor’s have said that the UK will lose its fine credit rating. The stock market was down 8.5 per cent in early trading. This is not just a downgrade in the value of assets. It is a leading indicator of the financial turmoil to come. If there is a recession, it is your recession. If inflation goes up and interest rates follow with an attendant spate of repossessions, it’s all yours. Well done.

And for what, exit fantasist? For what? The notion that Britain was not free until the early hours of this morning is the single most childish claim I have ever heard in British politics. I have heard grown people, who ought to know better, talk of serfdom and calling June 23rd “independence day”. This is thinking that is profoundly unconservative, placing an abstract idea above the concrete facts of life. When the sun came up this morning — a new dawn was it not? — it meant nothing to pretend that we have passed from servitude into liberty. It is the emptiest campaign slogan, the self-satisfied bluster of a fluent intellectual dwarf. It is a victory but a victory from which it is going to take an age to recover.

Morgan Stanley looks to move 2,000 London staff
Posted at 14:45

BBC business reporter Joe Lynam reports...

Sources within Morgan Stanley say it has already begun the process of moving about 2,000 of its London-based investment banking staff to Dublin or Frankfurt. And it has a taskforce in place.

The jobs which would be moved from the UK would be in euro clearing but also other investment banking functions and senior management.

The American investment bank needs to avail of the passporting system which allows banks to offer financial services in all countries in the EU without having to establish a permanent base in that member state.

The president of Morgan Stanley, Colm Kelleher, told Bloomberg two days ago that Brexit would be “the most consequential thing that we’ve ever seen since the war”.

oh no not the bankers

Sorry to get your hopes up NV

@ReutersBiz

UPDATE: Morgan Stanley denies reports that it would move 2,000 investment banking staff from London

i just got a letter from my pension fund. they say that it's volatile, my funds are lower, but basically everything's under control and they're monitoring things. that's alright then?

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i got a letter from the government, the other day, i opened it and read it, it said they were suckers

it's always weird when the government sends that letter

Good posts itt from caek and stilladvance today

Good luck UK. Hope we can at least skim enough business and jobs from this not to drown in your wake.

Wondering about different likelihoods us moving aspirationallly for a celtic trade block with NI/Scotland, moving cynically to closer align with overall UK or doubling down on our EU links to take advantage of our english language position.

read somewhere that this could portend a reunification of ireland, with NI seeking to rejoin --- is this bollocks

xpost What's the likelihood of another Brexit referendum?

We just have to persuade some those bampots in NI that still thinking you're more "British than the British" in the year 2016 is nagl.

"i got a letter from the government, the other day, i opened it and read it, it said they were suckers"

chuck d obv living in a particularly 'transparent', honest period of politics. i wish i got letters from politicians telling me where they have gone wrong.

Good posts itt from ppl I agree with today.

always enjoy posts from people i agree with.

however i am not a fan of posts i don't agree with.

people have had enough of ILXperts

We really really don't need a left UKIP populated with loud personalities who say dumb 'lefty' things.

Thanks.

Could we have a Labour Party led by someone who doesn't come across like a disillusioned supply teacher?

"We really really don't need a left UKIP populated with loud personalities who say dumb 'lefty' things."

a left wing UKIP equivalent does not have to mean loud personalities who say dumb things.
it means more what that other poster said upthread.

Thanks.

Crying a lot today. Nothing of importance to add here, just... crying.

Its such an incredibly dumb idea - but its ok because this is how you connect with Sunderland or some such. xp

Corbyn really needs more PR, maybe he could hire former PR David Cameron - I hear he is looking for a job.

Crying a lot today. Nothing of importance to add here, just... crying.

I wish I could cheer you up but I can't cheer myself up :(

music is helping me...maybe not "cheer up" but at least ease into despondency

always enjoy posts from people i agree with.

however i am not a fan of posts i don't agree with.

― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, June 24, 2016 10:05 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i enjoyed this post massively

Shitpost imo actually

otm both

Jeremy Corbyn has cancelled his appearance at Glastonbury after the referendum result.

The Labour leader had been scheduled to speak on Sunday at an event called Jez We Can: Jeremy Corbyn in Conversation, which would have made him the first Labour leader to appear at Pilton.

A spokesman confirmed to the Press Association that he would be “focusing on the issues” thrown up by the “momentous” vote rather than travelling to Worthy Farm.

let's rebuild this country one good post at a time.

xpost

rather than travelling to Worthy Farm

If ever a place was aptly named :(

Its such an incredibly dumb idea - but its ok because this is how you connect with Sunderland or some such. xp

― xyzzzz__, Friday, June 24, 2016 3:17 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Corbyn really needs more PR, maybe he could hire former PR David Cameron - I hear he is looking for a job.

― xyzzzz__, Friday, June 24, 2016 3:19 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

insightful contributions, as ever.

THANKS

we need a far right of the left

How about some far right fascists who call themselves National Socialists?

cool its like the best of both worlds

insightful contributions, as ever.

THANKS

― StillAdvance, Friday, June 24, 2016 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No worries. Glad to help you "focus on the issues"

Ahhhhhh "THE LEFT"

How about some far out groovy people, who call themselves after lunch to make sure they are not in?

a political party led by popular twitter figures of the left would be good.

after this epic vindication of all their positions, liberal centrists certainly in v good position to titter at leftists arguing

Left wing UKIP - ie very populist, very 'honest' (simple) in communication, willing to use base attacks against opposition - if nothing else, then expressed as a fraction of Labour - has been an obvious necessity for a while. Corbyn went some of the way, he gained like Sanders because went more left-leaning and stood out, but he's too lifeless as a personality to sell it. You don't need to sink to low depths, but it baffles me how poor politicians who aren't right wing populists are at communicating their ideology through simple language, and how poor they are at dismantling shitty arguments by other politicians. Get some new PR people in there.

― abcfsk, Friday, 24 June 2016 12:29 (2 hours ago)

"Glad to help you "focus on the issues"

if only there were more people of your intellect in the Labour Party, or just in British politics in general.

*sigh*

Chillax bro.

I read that its why I came up with my Cameron PR man 'joke'. I have a method.

When is bananaman going to end is the question rly

Sweet Jesus, when will Kendra Smith make another album though?