Psychoactive Substances: Rolling UK Politics in The Neo-Con Era

if Corbyn appoints another shadow cabinet by the end of the day, like he's said he's going to, then is there a good chance that among the people he appoints will be some of the small number of Labour MPs who supported brexit? (Kate Hoey? Graham Stringer? can John Cryer be a member of the shadow cabinet at the same time as being PLP chair?) (he doesn't have that many ppl left to choose from as much as anything else, considering how many MPs ruled themselves out back in September as well as everyone who resigned from the shadow cabinet yesterday).
if he does, it seems like that could be significant in terms of ppl's hopes that Labour are going to push to somehow block or at least delay brexit, also significant for his opponents attempts to paint him as someone who was never really committed to remain campaign?

Shares in Barclays and RBS have been suspended. Foxtons are down 25% in the last three hours.

Osborne's statement obvs not helping a great deal.

Watson has told Corbyn to resign

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl8n-HhWMAARbtX.jpg

:D

they'll never take our ecstasy away

Corbyn could conceivably not have enough support in the PLP to get on the ballot for a leadership election he'd win by a country mile. Both sides are taking legal advice on whether he'd have to be included automatically but there is no clear guidance or precedent.

A parliamentary party that can't even get rid of its own leader is totally electable. I can hear the voters hammering down the door now

Greens need to pounce immediately if he's ousted

I'd be tempted if i was him. I think he has too much love for the party to switch sides, though.

Maybe Labour should just split up for the kids.

New Statesman is reporting that Watson didn't tell Corbyn to resign and the BBC is wrong, fwiw.

You'll have to pry his Labour Party membership card from his cold dead hands.

If the PLP want to drive a wedge between Corbyn and his young/urban supporters among the membership, casting him as having sabotaged the Remain campaign is a decent strategy.

― ǂbait (seandalai), Sunday, June 26, 2016 6:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Labour leader and his team were guilty of ‘deliberate sabotage’ of the remain campaign. Members should remember this if they’re asked to re-elect him

like boris, im going back on my previous thoughts re: corbyn. i now think his relative silence, and the failure of labour members, during the referendum could be a great asset. seeing as he never really wanted to remain, he could utilise that ambivalence, or rather, his pro-brexit beliefs, to seal an election victory.

he never wanted to stay in the EU, and if he exploits this in a way that doesnt blur with that of gove/boris/farrage, it could be exactly what disenfranchised old labour voters will gravitate towards.

that could be a good strategy

What on earth....

i suggest replacing corbyn with vitellius.

I'm just about all linked out, and this is from a guy I don't know, but does at least point out the context of the coming year and under which any negotiations would be conducted
https://medium.com/@octskyward/ok-what-now-e3f64d38f7#.xenq7qjme

― stet, maandag 27 juni 2016 1:43 (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't know about the rest, but the part abt The Netherlands, Wilders and a possible referendum here is wrong and wildly speculative on so many accounts I don't know where to start.

That's a double relief, thanks

Nandy has resigned and said she won't stand as leader so bang goes that idea.

I'm corralling all my linking urges here Rolling Brexit Links/News thread

idk whether there will actually be a shadow cabinet by the end of the day but it's good to see Clive Lewis promoted.

Pat Glass also sounds cool:

Glass has taken a prominent role in Labour’s campaign to remain in the EU in the June 2016 referendum campaign. On 19 May 2016, she apologised after calling an elector "a horrible racist", which was caught at the end of a radio interview recording and reported by the media. She also added "I'm never coming back to wherever this is"

One of the Eagles has flown and i'd assume the other will later.

i hope they're not planning on leaving mount doom without frodo

maybe they should just, you know, take it easy

Lyin' Eyes, Already Gone, The Last Resort, New Kid In Town, etc, also available.

I'll go to corbyn rally in parliament square this evening

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13516524_10153437419066618_5336827758943328460_n.jpg?oh=192d93b265ff727b311014e1c9d87159&oe=57F3ECA5

I see shares the distaste for cleverness of her husband (Jack Sprat).

Don't forget "Chug All Night" (xxp)

I had begun to feel slightly less despairing (prob less because any actual news seemed encouraging than because a brain cannot stay at my Friday levels of despair and stay alive) but now I've read the links thread I am re-entering full-on "oh shit, we're fucked" mode

if anyone would like to dissuade me I'll be under my desk

Deskit

Yes. Today definitely feels like the worst day since Friday.

who knew all the complaining that labour was tory-lite and the answer was to become ukip-lite all along

Having one MP is something to aim for.

You couldn't make this up

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/06/suns-resident-idiot-kelvin-mackenzie-now-regrets-voting-leave-after-offering-10-reasons-for-brexit/

This is like the Iraq war. Anyone in favour who didn't see it ending in disaster should be barred from being taken seriously about anything ever again. Not that Kelvin MacKenzie has ever been taken seriously.

Glass has taken a prominent role in Labour’s campaign to remain in the EU in the June 2016 referendum campaign. On 19 May 2016, she apologised after calling an elector "a horrible racist", which was caught at the end of a radio interview recording and reported by the media. She also added "I'm never coming back to wherever this is"

she sounds just like the person to help labour win back their heartlands.

does anyone actually feel better hearing from 'regretful' voters? if anything, it just makes me more angry. im not even sure i believe it anymore. its starting to seem trendy.

It's bollocks, isn't it? ComRes poll at the weekend suggested four times as many REMAIN voters were regretful as Leave ones (4% of remain voters happy with result, 1% leave voters unhappy). OK, I guess pollsters could face some seriously shy Leave voters now.

Radio 4 this morning said 7% I think but don't know where they were getting that from.

iirc correctly Glass apologised for the I'm never coming back to wherever this is" comment but pointedly didn't apologise for calling the voter racist, which reflected well on her, I thought.

can't get over this sentence from that Freedland article:

And nor did he help those Labour campaigners, encountering deep misgivings about immigration on the doorstep in traditional Labour areas, when he chose a set-piece interview with Andrew Marr on the Sunday before polling day to say that he did not see either the possibility or the need for an upper limit on migration – and all but agreeing with Marr that if you had concerns about immigration your best bet was to vote leave.

like, there are many things you can criticise Corbyn for, but you chose this? that he didn't lie and pretend that there's some way to stop free movement of labour if you stay in the EU?

Trying to imagine what scenario entails for you to Vote Remain, lose the referendum, see all the economic and political chaos it causes and then declare you're happy with the result.

Unless you're some MP with aspirations I suppose.

SNP voters?

many guardian journalists strike me as being no smarter than any kelvin mckenzie types. and they wont be happy until labour is in power, no matter how they get there. corbyn can be a mess of a leader but at least he stands for an alternative. also doesnt help that think piece mania means people are just churning their oh so very important opinions out seemingly by the hour.

and they wont be happy until labour is in power

God knows what's given you that idea.

Yes, when was the last time they were fully behind a Labour leader? 2001?

well ok. i just meant they cant help but find fault, whatever corbyn does. if he was in power, it might be another story. then again, yes, both brown and corbyn have been on the receiving end of relentless negative campaigns. they cant possibly win these people over, who like to pose as being of the left, but probably dont really believe in it.

don't think anybody in the PLP is claiming to be "of the left" any more

if they force a leadership contest every potential candidate should be required to offer 5 policy goals, if only because I dearly need the lulz