xp Yeah, I think he grew up in Hawkins, moved away to Indianapolis, and then moved back after his daughter died and his marriage dissolved.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link
One thing that's been bugging me, and it's definitely not ruining the story for me in any way, is that if the gate to the Upside Down was only opened by Eleven recently, what was the creature feeding on before it could get topside?
Well like I said above, since the upside down world had all the same buildings as the real world, the implication seems to have been that it was once a normal parallel world that was inhabited by people, possibly parallel versions of the people in the real world. But then something had happened and the creature(s) had infested the world and eaten everyone there.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link
xpost They seemed to be setting something up, with the sheriff asking if Will was gay in this weird way. And the other cops saying he used to sleep with Winona.
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link
And presumably the backstory of the upside down world will be explored more in the next season? Especially if Eleven is now stuck there.
(xpost)
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:41 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I guess they could still reveal him to be Will's father. But that'd mean he was having an affair with her while he had a wife and daughter, not sure if they want to go there?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:42 (seven years ago) link
We're going to need a full character chronology to sort this out
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link
Joyce and Hopper probably have some kind of ties back to high school, because he seemed to have some weird relationship with Lonnie (competition, disdain, something).
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link
This was like the perfect blend of Spielberg and Stephen king
Was that a hatched egg hopper stopped to look at when they were in the upside-down?
― just1n3, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link
I thought so. Nice Alien reference.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link
I wasn't sure, not after will choked out that baby slug
― just1n3, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link
I imagine the snakey thing that Hopper pulled out of Will's throat hatched from the egg, then left a little creature thingy inside him to do...what? Who knows.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link
Eleven is the monster, guys
i.e. she created it
― Number None, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link
why was will still alive but barb was dead?
― just1n3, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link
Will found hiding places
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link
And was incubating the thing
Did she, though? Whenever she was in that black space with the wet floor, she could hone in on already living creatures (people to eavesdrop on), but there's no indication she could ever manifest something into being. She just brought it back out with her.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 23:36 (seven years ago) link
Xps yeah but the monster snatched him, right? So how did he get away?
And how did the monster get the scientist dude in the elevator at the beginning?
― just1n3, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 23:40 (seven years ago) link
It came through a hole between the dimensions in the ceiling.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 21 July 2016 06:40 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, it was a bit dodgy that the creature dragged both Barb and Will to the upside down dimension, but somehow Will managed to slip away from it while Barb didn't. But I guess Will is smaller and it was easier for him to hide? The creature didn't seem to have good eyesight, or possibly it was even blind? And Barb was bleeding while Will wasn't, so it couldn't track him by smell.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 21 July 2016 06:43 (seven years ago) link
Since there were so many homages to the movie, I'm wondering whether season 2 will be the Aliens to season 1's Alien? The creature couldn't really have taken over a whole planet all by itself, and it was breeding anyway, so we should get multiple monsters next season... Though I'd be more happy if it was more about the mysteries of the upside down dimension in general, I'm not sure if the monster was successfully enough done that it could carry another season.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 21 July 2016 06:48 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, the creature would have to have some amazing backstory for me to be happy with them focusing an entire second season on it.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 21 July 2016 07:09 (seven years ago) link
One more interesting thing that wasn't really discussed in the finale: the sheriff pretty much sold out Eleven to save Will, didn't he? He told the bad guys where El and the other kids were hiding, so what happened next was kinda his fault. At first I thought they'd reveal he was faking, that he told the bad guys some false location, but that didn't seem to be the case... Maybe that's why he's bringing food to El at the end (and possibly helping her hide from the men in black?), because he feels guilty about it?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 21 July 2016 07:20 (seven years ago) link
feel like we were robbed of epic modine death. but maybe he didn't die...it was too quick. they should have had him talking up against a wall in the school and the monster comes out of the wall and chomps his head off. that's always a good way to do it.
― scott seward, Thursday, 21 July 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I didn't really understand that sudden shift in his character. I guess his primary concern was making Joyce's family whole again, all else be damned. I don't know if El is still alive, or if she is, that's she's even in "our" world, but him leaving the Eggo waffles out there makes me think he feels pretty guilty.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 21 July 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link
I've only seen like 2 and some change episodes of this but my early reaction: fuck this show. Have a lot of affection for the things it references, but (or because of that) this feels so pandering, witless, and soulless. Does it do anything interesting in the back half or does it continue emptily jerking off ppl who were kids in the 80s?
― circa1916, Thursday, 21 July 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link
i'm an 80's kid who has shrugged and ignored over 5 million 80's revivals and i loved this!
― scott seward, Thursday, 21 July 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, the same here. It doesn't really go above and beyond it's inspirations, but IMO it's a solid, intriguing mystery story with mostly good actors and some neat visuals, not just an empty pastiche. The 80s tropes are really just the cake dressing, I would've liked this story even with a present day setting. But if the first 2 episodes haven't convinced you, I can't imagine the rest of it will.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link
one break with 80s form-- the girl who has sex lives and the virgin dies
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link
I was thinking that mustve been deliberate hey?
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link
How do you know she was virgin? Just because she looked geeky?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
like i said on the netflix thread, it reminded me of the faux-spielberg Super 8 and i loved that movie to death. it's not like you can't do the 80's right its just that so many people get it wrong or just go for surface visuals. this had the surface visuals but it also just had a good t.v. movie story.
― scott seward, Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
gotta say the first scene with her friend at the lockers, man, they nailed the brainy redhead hairdo and outfit so perfectly. stunning really.
― scott seward, Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link
this was better than M&M too. i eagerly awaited this t.v. movie in 1982 after i read the book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awTKqydci_c
― scott seward, Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link
plus, as far as nostalgia goes, i'll take Poltergeist and Stephen King short stories over stupid Ghostbusters any day.
― scott seward, Thursday, 21 July 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
one break with 80s form-- the girl who has sex lives and the virgin dies― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, July 21, 2016 12:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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This occurred to me too. I thought at least Steve was a goner.
― Quarter measures (sunny successor), Thursday, 21 July 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link
I was convinced steve was related to Jean ralphio till I looked him up on IMDb
― just1n3, Thursday, 21 July 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link
steve not dying was a total shocker! there were multiple instances inside and outside the house where you really thought he was done for. man, that hair of his...
― scott seward, Thursday, 21 July 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link
Even though "child with special powers on the run from the authorities" is one of my least favorite genre tropes ever, this was good
― Rob Boss (latebloomer), Thursday, 21 July 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link
I read somewhere that Steve didn't die because they liked the actor a lot and decided to give him more to do.
Similar thing happened with Aaron Paul on Breaking Bad IIRC
― Rob Boss (latebloomer), Thursday, 21 July 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link
I thought Steve was pretty awesome.
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 July 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link
btw, here's the band of the guys who did the show's instrumental score.
https://survive.bandcamp.com/
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 22 July 2016 00:33 (seven years ago) link
Good lord tuomas you asked some stupid questions itt
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 22 July 2016 13:22 (seven years ago) link
I thought this was great btw. For something so heavily referential it was surprisingly unpredictable ... Like they played with these tropes and cliches in a way that made them feel new and unexpected.
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 22 July 2016 13:24 (seven years ago) link
Also I don't think will choked out a "baby" creature, it was just goop that suggests he's become infected himself
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 22 July 2016 13:26 (seven years ago) link
My nitpicks were when you watch the pool scene he stops taking photos well before the monster shows up and when the phone gets electrified it obviously doesn't look blackened and burned at first until they do a close up later lol
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 22 July 2016 13:27 (seven years ago) link
i liked how the two friends who weren't Mike conveniently didn't have parents. even at the end after almost dying at the school they are just sitting by themselves in the hospital waiting room.
also trying to figure out the Barb timeline. she doesn't go to school for two whole days and then Nancy calls the police about her? it was kinda unclear. and Nancy kind of a bad friend in general. telling her mom that Barb is at the library? when there is already one kid missing? that's mean!
― scott seward, Friday, 22 July 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link
also i don't think he stopped taking pictures well before the monster showed up. he took one last picture and then looked down and when he looked up she was gone.
― scott seward, Friday, 22 July 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link
I thought the token black friend was a really good actor!
― Heez, Friday, 22 July 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link
still weighing up whether to dive into E02
my 80s sensibilities were a little rattled by terms like 'shit' and 'douchebag'
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 July 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link
douchebag a thing in the early 80's! "chill" was the one that got me. "let's go chill in my car". don't think that was a thing back then. the word chill existed but i don't remember people using it like that at all.
― scott seward, Friday, 22 July 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link
There were many things about this season that I loved, particularly Eddie and Argyle. Joseph Quinn should give Charlie Heaton some tips on how to do a convincing American accent.
The last shot irrationally pissed me off. I thought, "Jeez, they just got home! Give them a minute to relax!" And what happened to Murray?
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 4 July 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link
Older teen's spoiler-free take away from the finale: "It sucks."
We asked, is it because you didn't like it, or didn't like what happened? She said it's because the acting and writing were terrible. I'm kind of surprised, not that she thought it was terrible (I also think this season sucked, not least because of the acting and writing) but because she is by far the biggest fan in the house (had posters, shirts, etc.), and if it even lost *her* ...
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 July 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
The only major disappointment for me was that the Dean & Jerry dynamic of Steve and Dustin -- which had been getting funnier with each season -- was largely absent. My idea for a spinoff is having those two, in character, co-hosting a variety show set in the mid-'80s.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 4 July 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link
I'm about 20 mins in and so far the most annoying rhing is "cracks in dams create pressure, the pressure builds..." no, the pressure is constant, the cracks reduce the ability of the dam to withstand it.
― dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Monday, 4 July 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link
I chuckled at the use of breaking something to demonstrate how things break.
"Here is this pane of glass." (throws brick) "Now it has shattered. Understand? We are in grave danger!"
(Calls to get pane of glass replaced)
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 July 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link
so slowand did the baddy win in the end or not? They took everything that was good about this show and spoiled it, BOOOOOOO
I do like Vecna's crib, very end-of-Labyrinth.
― kinder, Monday, 4 July 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link
'Member Labyrinth?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 July 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link
"cracks in dams create pressure, the pressure builds..." no, the pressure is constant, the cracks reduce the ability of the dam to withstand it.
ah but what if this water is CLEVER, sensing the dam's weakness and exerting extra pressure there!
― andrew m., Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link
Disappointed none of the bullies ended up in a dumpster, try harder next time guys. ― kinder, Saturday, 20 August 2016 13:14 (five years ago)
If every single one of the bullies doesn't end up in a dumpster at the end I'm quitting Netflix.― kinder, Saturday, 4 June 2022 09:25 (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
― kinder, Saturday, 4 June 2022 09:25 (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
This might be starting to look a little obsessive but come on, those rollerskate jerks needed some comeuppance or it's not a true 80s story.
― kinder, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link
Tbf, she did get a broken nose, one jock got a kick in the balls and main jock was literally cut in half by an earthquake.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link
pfft, they needed to get gunged or something
― kinder, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link
S4 really gives [insert your preferred worst season of True Blood] a run for its money. absolute chore to get through.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 8 July 2022 22:50 (one year ago) link
I never thought to compare ST to True Blood but wow, yes
― mh, Monday, 11 July 2022 13:11 (one year ago) link
Where did that fucking sword come from?
― war mice (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link
It was still sitting there from back when the prisoners were sent out to fight with melee weapons, when he originally escaped.
― Evan, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link
Oh fer fucksake
― war mice (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 03:29 (one year ago) link
we finished it tonight & i’m just gonna say i enjoyed this season i don’t have a lot of deep things to say yet but i think that all the dark teenager shit was so good. so many moments this season that really felt like stephen king done right, honoring the best most crushing moments in his best novels, just such a tonally ~right~ mix of teenage dark shit with supernatural gross weirdness not a ripoff. not an imitation.there were moments that were just like being huddled under my blanket with a flashlight still reading way after lights-out, or trying to sleep but hoping nothing bad happened to anyone while i was away. there were times this season, and esp the finale where, in the moment, those stakes still felt kinda real, in the best stephen king way possible. I was all-in. And i didn’t expect that. i didnt love the russia storyline: it dragged a lot - but i could watch tons more of the rest of the gang having adventures together, because that shit was great anyway maybe that makes me an old cornball … or maybe ~you all~ are a bunch of complainy complainersons! geez lol jk jk
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 06:36 (one year ago) link
but i will say: the actual ending? fuuuuuck that was on some lotr return of the king five-ending bullshit omg END jeez
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 06:39 (one year ago) link
the real mystery of season 5 better be what did erica find under lucas's bed? it was a hundred on the disgusting scale! the disgusting scale only even goes to ten!! my money is on demogorgon hentai, but that's no surprise, my money is on demogorgon hentai most of the time
― CYANIDE MUKBANG (cat), Friday, 22 July 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link
VG otm with pretty much all of that. I enjoyed watching this season the most since s1, could have lived with less Russia and a better ending.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 July 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link
I still haven't seen the final episode, but I did have my daughter and her friend watch the original "Nightmare on Elm Street," and her take was that the creators of "Stranger Things" owe that movie "5 billion dollars."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 July 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link
Josh’s daughter OTM
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 22 July 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link
(Well, maybe it’s a little more Nightmare on Elm Street 3)
That's the one in the asylum right? Dream Warriors? The hundreds of hours of the season I have seen to date remind me a lot of the first one. whenever I get around to watching the 30-hour final episode maybe I'll see the dream warriors comparison.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 July 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link
Dokken shows up
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Friday, 22 July 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link
Would awesome if the Spotify top 10 was, like, Kate Bush, Metallica ... and Dokken.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 July 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link
Netflix sub ends tomorrow so I binged ST from start to finish this past week. Hmm
Season 1 was okay but didn't really have me geared up for any more. I persisted. S2 was meh but saved my interest with the "Billy" character - haha what a card. S3 kinda better. S4, didn't live up to the hype, but the final episode I thought was pretty amazing and now I want more.
love Gelman in this, and I actually liked all the Russian prison camp stuff.The pizza hippy guy was annoying as shit tho.
― Ste, Sunday, 24 July 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link
so now I'm trying to cram in Lady Dynamite before my sub ends
― Ste, Sunday, 24 July 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link
Lot of bad wigs this season. I was also disappointed by the much hyped Kate Bush scene because... you could barely hear it? I thought it'd be a swelling mass of song powering over everything but it was just sort of tootling along?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link
I just finished binging this whole series. I loved it, although Eleven falling apart at the 11th hour (heh) seemed not to fit, especially when she came in as such a badass.
I gotta say, the metal scene with Eddie and Dustin was probably my favorite moment of the whole season, if not the entire show.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 24 November 2023 17:37 (six months ago) link