imo the problem is people who uncritically follow one news source and sit there sharing that as the only perspective, even if it's a comedy show that is based on commenting on news and politics, not being a primary reporter
it's an issue among many groups but pointing at a single comedy central show is even more reductive than pointing at fox news
not even going to attempt to imagine someone who only bases their opinion on douthat articles
― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link
Hey Ross
http://www.census.gov/popclock/
― Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/ralphdouthat/status/779310376919953408
― (rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Friday, 23 September 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link
sadly just a stupid fallon "satire"
― Mordy, Friday, 23 September 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link
david thomas vs. brooks friedman
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Friday, 23 September 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
I follow Ross on twitter now, and it's fun. He's eminently clownable but less hateable than the other two.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Friday, 23 September 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link
FRIEDMAN: Mr. President-elect, I came …
TRUMP: So right now I’m in very good shape, but
FRIEDMAN: I came here thinking you’d be awed and overwhelmed by this job, but I feel like you are getting very comfortable with it.
TRUMP: I feel comfortable. I feel comfortable. I am awed by the job, as anybody would be, but I honestly, Tom, I feel so comfortable and you know it would be, to me, a great achievement if I could come back here in a year or two years and say — and have a lot of the folks here say, ‘You’ve done a great job.’ And I don’t mean just a conservative job, ’cause I’m not talking conservative. I mean just, we’ve done a good job.
― iatee, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link
ball 1
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link
Oh boy, lookee who wrote up a reading list:
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/21/opinion/books-for-the-trump-era.html
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Sunday, 25 December 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link
everybody should definitely give that publication some moneylike Planned Parenthood
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Sunday, 25 December 2016 02:21 (seven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8QzeViWAAASff4.jpg
― mookieproof, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/HgOYozLhuONUY/giphy.gif
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Friday, 31 March 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link
thats it the worst possible tweet, shut it down
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link
lol
― Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link
he also tweeted this at elizabeth bruin, referencing pence dinnergate
https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/847507297651707905
"Care to discuss them over dinner?"
Ross is thirsty.
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 31 March 2017 17:58 (seven years ago) link
i thought maybe ross would call for watergatesque sabotage of trump
welllllll
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9f/a1/7f/9fa17fce0ef1e6911470562b9df4cec7.jpg
― Dogshit Critic (m coleman), Friday, 31 March 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link
Kind of enjoying Douthat now that he's apparently realized that his political views have no relevance to our current reality but he can get paid to write whatever he likes.
― JoeStork, Friday, 31 March 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link
elaborate fantasies about corporate dystopias
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link
weird seeing a conservative in the current american milieu advocating for the singaporean health care system (which is universal healthcare)
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/18/opinion/sunday/make-america-singapore.html?_r=0
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 31 March 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link
(even if it's a weird universal healthcare with large elements where the individual has to pay)
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 31 March 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link
Okay what the fuck has Douthat done this week
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 4 May 2018 16:03 (six years ago) link
signal boosted incel worldview garbage and took it at face value
― Simon H., Friday, 4 May 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link
I didn't think most of his analysis was that terrible but it was in service of a terrible end.
FWIW I think there isn't enough contemporary left analysis of how the capitalist/consumerist paradigm shapes our ideas about sex.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 4 May 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link
sex is theft
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 May 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link
plausible
― valorous wokelord (silby), Friday, 4 May 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link
i found that piece just unconscionable. his - completely nonsensical - combination of social conservatism and libertarianism sees him equate redistributive economic policy with the idea of forcing people to have sex with incels - if you can distribute resources why can't you distribute sex, a thing completely different from a resource which results from the consensual physical congress of individuals? asks the millionaire columnist in the paper of record.
simultaneously he blames the sexual revolution for the existence of incels, as if the "halcyon days" when every man's wife was a maid he was allowed to rape and beat were preferable to the modern day sexual politics, and as if bitter sexless men didn't exist back then.
harkens back to the argument of houllebecq's protagonist in "Extension du domaine de la latte":
"The thesis is that the sexual revolution of the Sixties created not communism but capitalism in the sexual market, that the unattractive underclass is exiled while the privileged initiates are drained by corruption, sloth, and excess."
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 4 May 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link
Extension du domaine de la latte
damn you autocorrect
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 4 May 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link
him and brooks seem to take turns trying out dumbass each other on a biweekly basis
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 May 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link
He's still trying to explain today
I think one mistake was assuming readers would recall that I want *ban porn* in assessing whether I really favor sex robots.— Ross Douthat (@DouthatNYT) May 4, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 May 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link
(Of course, giving the phrasing, it sounds like he wants some subset of porn called 'ban porn,' the hottest porn of all.)
lmao
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 May 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link
suggest ban porn
― WilliamC, Friday, 4 May 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link
oh yea baby!
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 May 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link
that would be some fetish
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 4 May 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link
I don't think he takes this line of thinking seriously, I think he saw it as a reductio argument, like "Ok, if you accept these ideas about sex, then guess what the logical conclusion is"
But yeah this seems right.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 4 May 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcPbyczV0AERINN.jpg
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 May 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link
Remember the single stupidest statement from pro-Trump commentators after the election? It was: “The media took Trump literally but not seriously. But his supporters took him seriously but not literally.”Actually, some of us took him seriously and literally — our only mistake was not taking him literally enough. I assumed that a candidate who lied so casually and so often in the campaign would also do so as president; I just didn’t think he would literally utter 3,001 false or misleading claims in his first 466 days in office. I feared Trump would indeed, as he vowed, tear up the Iran nuclear deal, withdraw from the Paris climate accord and start a trade war with China; I just didn’t think he’d literally do them all at once with so little expert input.I figured Trump would try to destroy Obamacare; I just didn’t think he’d literally do it without having a better alternative — any alternative — in place. I figured Trump would seek to tighten the border with Mexico; I just didn’t believe that he’d literally ask Congress for $18 billion to extend the border wall. I knew we needed to “drain the swamp” of Washington; I just didn’t think the drain would literally have to start in Trump’s White House and the offices of his cabinet secretaries.
Actually, some of us took him seriously and literally — our only mistake was not taking him literally enough. I assumed that a candidate who lied so casually and so often in the campaign would also do so as president; I just didn’t think he would literally utter 3,001 false or misleading claims in his first 466 days in office. I feared Trump would indeed, as he vowed, tear up the Iran nuclear deal, withdraw from the Paris climate accord and start a trade war with China; I just didn’t think he’d literally do them all at once with so little expert input.
I figured Trump would try to destroy Obamacare; I just didn’t think he’d literally do it without having a better alternative — any alternative — in place. I figured Trump would seek to tighten the border with Mexico; I just didn’t believe that he’d literally ask Congress for $18 billion to extend the border wall. I knew we needed to “drain the swamp” of Washington; I just didn’t think the drain would literally have to start in Trump’s White House and the offices of his cabinet secretaries.
lol friedman
also, what is with his twitter / nyt profile pics?
https://i.imgur.com/ORGqSkZ.jpg
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 01:46 (six years ago) link
did someone digitally add his nyt suit?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 01:47 (six years ago) link
lmao looks like it that is very odd
― sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 04:26 (six years ago) link
Karl, can you overlay them?
I was really trying to figure out when you tweeted that whether it's a weird modified pic, or if he really makes the exact same pose for every photo
― (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ (mh), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link
its def the same photo look at the hair, moustache
― sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link
what if he just keeps one of those photos by his mirror and shaves and combs his hair exactly the same every day
(lol they're totally the same pic)
so someone modified the NYT one to have a suit, and he also had his personal one modified to darken his hair? wild
― mh, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 16:42 (six years ago) link
Why We Miss the WASPsTheir more meritocratic, diverse and secular successors rule us neither as wisely nor as well.
. . . I think you can usefully combine these takes, and describe Bush nostalgia as a longing for something America used to have and doesn’t really any more — a ruling class that was widely (not universally, but more widely than today) deemed legitimate, and that inspired various kinds of trust (intergenerational, institutional) conspicuously absent in our society today.Put simply, Americans miss Bush because we miss the WASPs — because we feel, at some level, that their more meritocratic and diverse and secular successors rule us neither as wisely nor as well.
Put simply, Americans miss Bush because we miss the WASPs — because we feel, at some level, that their more meritocratic and diverse and secular successors rule us neither as wisely nor as well.
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/57407228/what-do-you-mean-we-white-man.jpg
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
i posted this extremely good and very persuasive piece on the George H.W. Bush - Classic or Dud thread earlier fyi
― We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link
loved this piece, Pulitzer worthy imo
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link
jfc lol https://splinternews.com/bret-stephens-tried-to-teach-me-how-the-world-works-bec-1832996576
― lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2019 22:07 (five years ago) link
Man, Stephens’ column on Rep. Omar today is fucking disgusting, even for him, any reputable editor would fire him for this shit.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 18 April 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link
i read it - it's nothing special but it's not "fucking disgusting"
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 April 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link
One problem with the quoted remarks is that THIS IS AN INTENTIONAL MISQUOTE OF THE ACTUAL QUOTE THE WHOLE FAKE CONTROVERSY IS BUILT ON pic.twitter.com/Kdc5RGWQEN— Tom Scocca (@tomscocca) April 18, 2019
― JoeStork, Thursday, 18 April 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link
omar said "some people did something" how is this an "intentional misquote" as opposed to a rhetorically synonymous rephrasing
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 April 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link