NOW YOU'RE POLLING WITH POWER. SUPER POWER. Console Poll, vol. 2 - 4th Generation RESULTS

Anyway... *DEEP BREATH BEFORE POSTING #3*

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3 - Chrono Trigger - 433 points / 3 First-place votes / 14 Votes

ah i didn't realise that there were still 3 to go - thought this might be number 1. i didn't rate it that highly cos it's not my fave but i have to admire its ambition and world-building

Sometimes I feel kinda dumb because I have Tetris on my Vita like the last 20 years haven't elapsed but...c'mon, man, it's Tetris.

(Also have Chrono Trigger and FF Origins on my Vita. Taking full advantage of those graphics, dontchaknow.)

chrono trigger really should be #1

oh wait my #1 vote should be #1 but still it's one of the greatest games of all time for sure

I might spend the next week drinking heavily and playing the shit out of these games since it looks like my Disney trip is a bust. It's sort of like going on a ride, right?

(xposts since i posted #3)

Conversely, this is my numero uno. And one of my top games of all time. No matter how epic it got, the characters grounded it. They were sweet and cared about each other. (SPOILERS BEGIN HERE) And this is despite the fact that with a few exceptions (Lucca-Crono, Frog-Magus) they all met during the adventure. Also, this is something that is kind of only occurring to me now, but probably explains my love for this game: every single character in this game is lonely until they join the party. Crono is mute. Lucca is an introverted nerd. Marle is locked up in a castle, unable to have friends. Robo's a malfunctioning robot whose brothers beat him up. Frog has been turned into a monster. Ayla is the next chief, but has a hard time with sexism. Magus is misunderstood/also an asshole. Add into that a wonderful time-travel story (we saw the future! it's terrible! but we can stop it from being terrible! let's do it together by visiting cavemen, knights, and INSANE FLOATING MAGIC SECRET HISTORY RENAISSANCE TIMES!) and you get something really touching and special and it's one of the rare games that NAILS everything else. The art, the rpg elements, everything are just wonderfully tuned and presented.

It also stands as the only "multiple ending" game I've gone through many times to see the multiple endings; and I did it because I couldn't bear for the game to be over, and the thought of infinite possibilities let the game kind of live forever in my mind.

The closest this genre has ever gotten to perfect.

I haven't played thru it in years, might be time for another go-around. It's released on the Vita?

So many times I would immediately accidentally get caught and blow myself up, and then you just have to sit there and wait for the other players to finish the game. After a while I was like fuck this!

I don't remember whic one of the many Bomberman that was but I remember there was one where when you'd die you would go around the battlezone and throw bombs at the other players. That was fun.

Secret of Mana <3

p sure that was 2

Alright, let's put a bow on this! Here are number one and number two! I forgot to make joke #1/#2 so we're just DOIN' IT for real!

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2 - Super Mario World - 473 points / 19 Votes

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1 - Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 522 points / 3 First-place votes / 18 Votes

god just thinking about bomberman makes me want to devote my life to being a champion bomberman player

I'll post a recap later!

Can't argue with that #1

fair

forgot Zelda hadn't appeared. it's not as good as Crusader of Centy.

lttp was my #1.

chrono trigger is also either the best or second best time travel video game of all time (maybe day of the tentacle is better?)

i still have never beaten a zelda. i used to care, as recently as a few months ago, but you know what, i don't even care anymore. fuck it.

(i will still give link's awakening a go, though)

the only thing that could have improved super mario world was to make it more difficult.

i beat lttp not that long ago (maybe 5 years or so?). when i was a kid i think i got to like the 3rd or 4th dungeon in dark world before giving up. i don't think i ever beat link's awakening - i got to the end maybe but you need to open the egg with instruments or something and i didn't figure that out. i did complete the entire mini giving gifts game that starts with winning that yoshi (?) at the claw game.

it's tough to directly compare link to the past, SMW, and chrono trigger in a ranking system. all three are pinnacles of the genre, so whichever one you prefer just depends on what kind of game you prefer (super metroid, same thing)

high point of lttp besides the guy under the bridge: looking down on the lost woods from the top of death mountain. real sense of a world connected to itself, probably more so than koholint island (def more so than ocarina imo, even than the cramped but brilliant majora's)

Super Mario World is totes overrated. SMB3 with SNES graphics.

(speaking of the best time travel games xp)

SMB3 with SNES graphics would prob be better than super mario world

so, ballots in here?

Yeah, let's just use this thread for it all

STONE-COLD CLASSIC TIER
1 - Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 522 points / 3 First-place votes / 18 Votes
2 - Super Mario World - 473 points / 19 Votes
3 - Chrono Trigger - 433 points / 3 First-place votes / 14 Votes
4 - Final Fantasy VI (III) - 371 points / 2 First-place votes / 12 Votes
5 - Tetris - 313 points / 1 First-place votes / 13 Votes
6 - Earthbound - 304 points / 3 First-place votes / 11 Votes
7 - Street Fighter II & SFII' Turbo - 292 points / 11 Votes
8 - Super Metroid - 288 points / 11 Votes
9 - Secret of Mana - 222 points / 11 Votes
10 - StarFox - 218 points / 9 Votes
11 - Super Bomberman - 209 points / 9 Votes
12 - Super Mario Kart - 204 points / 1 First-place votes / 11 Votes
13 - Donkey Kong Country - 204 points / 12 Votes
14 - Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island - 194 points / 8 Votes
15 - Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening - 179 points / 9 Votes
16 - F-Zero - 171 points / 8 Votes
17 - Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - 161 points / 9 Votes

BELOVED TIER
18 - ToeJam & Earl - 136 points / 6 Votes
19 - Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - 129 points / 7 Votes
20 - Sonic The Hedgehog - 128 points / 7 Votes
21 - Super Castlevania IV - 121 points / 5 Votes
22 - Super Mario Land - 118 points / 5 Votes
23 - Donkey Kong Country 2 - 115 points / 5 Votes
24 - NBA Jam - 113 points / 5 Votes
25 - Another World/Out Of This World - 101 points / 1 First-place votes / 4 Votes
26 - Legend of the Mystical Ninja - 101 points / 4 Votes
27 - Pilotwings - 100 points / 4 Votes
28 - Mega Man X - 99 points / 8 Votes
29 - Castlevania: Rondo of Blood - 94 points / 1 First-place votes / 3 Votes
30 - Sonic & Knuckles (and Sonic 3 + Knuckles) - 87 points / 1 First-place votes / 4 Votes
31 - Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow - 87 points / 4 Votes
32 - Earthworm Jim - 86 points / 6 Votes
33 - Langrisser II - 81 points / 3 Votes
34 - Crusader of Centy (aka Soleil) - 80 points / 2 First-place votes / 2 Votes
35 - Rock n Roll Racing - 79 points / 4 Votes
36 - Super Mario All-Stars - 78 points / 3 Votes
37 - NBA Jam Tournament Edition - 77 points / 5 Votes
38 - Gunstar Heroes - 70 points / 4 Votes
38 - SimCity - 70 points / 4 Votes
40 - Streets of Rage II - 70 points / 3 Votes

SOLID TIER
41 - Breath of Fire - 69 points / 3 Votes
42 - Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium - 67 points / 3 Votes
42 - Flashback - 67 points / 3 Votes
42 - Super Street Fighter II + Turbo - 67 points / 3 Votes
45 - Revenge of Shinobi - 66 points / 2 Votes
46 - Harvest Moon - 64 points / 5 Votes
47 - Shining Force 2 - 64 points / 2 Votes
48 - Micro Machines - 63 points / 3 Votes
48 - ActRaiser - 63 points / 3 Votes
50 - Zombies Ate My Neighbors - 61 points / 4 Votes
51 - Streets of Rage III - 61 points / 3 Votes
52 - Front Mission - 57 points / 2 Votes
53 - Shining Force - 56 points / 2 Votes
54 - Tetris Attack / Panel de Pon - 54 points / 3 Votes
55 - Final Fantasy V - 54 points / 2 Votes
56 - Contra 3: The Alien Wars - 53 points / 4 Votes
57 - Super Empire Strikes Back - 51 points / 3 Votes
58 - Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse - 50 points / 3 Votes
59 - Secret of Evermore - 50 points / 2 Votes
60 - Kirby's Dream Land - 48 points / 2 Votes
61 - Shadowrun - 47 points / 3 Votes
62 - Shinobi III - 47 points / 2 Votes
63 - Road Rash II - 46 points / 2 Votes
64 - E.V.O. The Search for Eden - 45 points / 2 Votes
65 - Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins - 44 points / 1 First-place votes / 2 Votes
66 - UN Squadron - 44 points / 2 Votes
66 - ToeJam & Earl in Panic on Funkatron - 44 points / 2 Votes
68 - Cannon Fodder - 43 points / 3 Votes
69 - Wonder Boy V: Monster World III - 43 points / 2 Votes
69 - Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen - 43 points / 2 Votes
69 - Castlevania: Bloodlines - 43 points / 2 Votes
72 - Nobunaga's Ambition - 42 points / 2 Votes
72 - Final Fantasy IV (II) - 42 points / 2 Votes
74 - On the Ball - 40 points / 1 First-place votes / 1 Vote
75 - Mortal Kombat 2 - 40 points / 2 Votes

FOND MEMORIES TIER
76 - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles in Time - 38 points / 2 Votes
77 - Final Fight - 38 points / 1 Vote
77 - Rings of Power - 38 points / 1 Vote
79 - Streets of Rage - 36 points / 2 Votes
79 - Haunting starring Polterguy - 36 points / 2 Votes
81 - Sword of Vermilion - 36 points / 1 Vote
82 - Bahamut Lagoon - 34 points / 1 Vote
82 - Beyond Oasis/The Story of Thor - 34 points / 1 Vote
84 - Golden Axe - 33 points / 3 Votes
85 - Killer Instinct - 33 points / 2 Votes
85 - Mortal Kombat - 33 points / 2 Votes
87 - Demon's Crest - 32 points / 1 Vote
88 - Mario Paint - 30 points / 2 Votes
88 - Terranigma - 30 points / 2 Votes
90 - Lemmings - 30 points / 1 Vote
91 - Parodius - 28 points / 2 Votes
91 - Dragon Quest V - 28 points / 2 Votes
93 - Gargoyle's Quest - 28 points / 1 Vote
94 - Gradius 3 - 27 points / 2 Votes
95 - Landstalker - 26 points / 1 Vote
96 - NHL 96 - 25 points / 2 Votes
97 - Super Off Road - 24 points / 2 Votes
97 - Soul Blazer - 24 points / 2 Votes
99 - Pyramid Magic - 24 points / 1 Vote
99 - Bomberman '94 - 24 points / 1 Vote
99 - Lost Vikings - 24 points / 1 Vote
102 - Desert Strike - 23 points / 2 Votes
103 - Final Fantasy Legend - 22 points / 2 Votes
104 - Monster World IV - 22 points / 1 Vote

ALSO REMEMBERED TIER
105 - Madden NFL '94 - 21 points / 1 Vote
105 - Metal Slug - 21 points / 1 Vote
105 - Psycho Pinball - 21 points / 1 Vote
105 - Super Return of the Jedi - 21 points / 1 Vote
105 - Super Star Wars - 21 points / 1 Vote
105 - Thunderforce IV - 21 points / 1 Vote
105 - Pop'n Twinbee - 21 points / 1 Vote
105 - Super Double Dragon - 21 points / 1 Vote
105 - Dune: The Battle for Arrakis - 21 points / 1 Vote
114 - Romance of the Three Kingdoms IV: Wall of Fire - 20 points / 2 Votes
115 - Xenon 2: Megablast - 20 points / 1 Vote
115 - Tails Adventure - 20 points / 1 Vote
115 - Kirby Super Star a.k.a. Kirby's Fun Pack - 20 points / 1 Vote
118 - Illusion of Gaia - 18 points / 1 Vote
118 - Yoshi's Safari - 18 points / 1 Vote
118 - Aladdin - 18 points / 1 Vote
121 - Ecco The Dolphin - 16 points / 1 Vote
121 - Aerobiz - 16 points / 1 Vote
121 - Lemmings 2: The Tribes - 16 points / 1 Vote
121 - Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 - 16 points / 1 Vote
121 - Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday - 16 points / 1 Vote
126 - Umihara Kawase - 12 points / 1 Vote
127 - Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon: Another Story (Angel) - 10 points / 1 Vote
127 - Super Punchout - 10 points / 1 Vote
127 - General Chaos - 10 points / 1 Vote
127 - Aero the Acrobat - 10 points / 1 Vote
127 - Earthworm Jim 2 - 10 points / 1 Vote
127 - Lufia II - 10 points / 1 Vote
133 - Comix Zone - 8 points / 2 Votes
134 - Star Ocean - 8 points / 1 Vote
134 - ActRaiser 2 - 8 points / 1 Vote
136 - Populous - 6 points / 1 Vote
136 - Sparkster - 6 points / 1 Vote
138 - Subterrania - 4 points / 1 Vote
138 - Jungle Strike - 4 points / 1 Vote
138 - Kid Chameleon - 4 points / 1 Vote
141 - Wings of Wor / Gynoug - 2 points / 1 Vote
141 - Sim Ant - 2 points / 1 Vote
141 - Metal Warriors - 2 points / 1 Vote
141 - Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts - 2 points / 1 Vote

I reckon I was the only voter the Landstalker

xp confirmed

Only game that I actually skipped sleep entirely for.

i beat a link to the past like a dozen times when it was released

because each time i wanted to find all the hearts

i totally do no get super mario world being in second place

for what it stands for, maybe placed at #5 would make sense, but even then, i think i finished it once and never really wanted to play it again even though they changed the worlds a bit to get you to play it again

Noodle Vague's best 4th Gen Console Games - in descending order

1. [G] Crusader of Centy (aka Soleil)
2. [G] Rings of Power
3. [S] Breath of Fire
4. [S] Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
5. [G] Shining Force
6. [S] Super Mario World
7. [S] Super Mario All-Stars
8. [G] Road Rash II
9. [S] Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
10. [G] ToeJam & Earl in Panic on Funkatron
11. [S] SimCity
12. [S] Chrono Trigger
13. [G] Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday
14. [G] Sonic the Hedgehog 2
15. [SG] NBA Jam
16. [SG] Cannon Fodder
17. [S] Harvest Moon
18. [S] Earthbound
19. [S] Parodius
20. [G] Golden Axe

Oh man Gargoyle's Quest didn't get any love either

My own ballot, bold didn't place:
1. Chrono Trigger
2. Earthbound
3. Front Mission
4. Bahamut Lagoon
5. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
6. Super Mario Land
7. UN Squadron
8. Super Mario World
9. E.V.O. The Search for Eden
10. Mortal Kombat 2
11. Rock n Roll Racing
12. Illusion of Gaia
13. Tetris
14. Final Fantasy Legend
15. Super Mario Kart
16. Donkey Kong Country 2
17. NBA Jam Tournament Edition
18. Haunting starring Polterguy
19. Subterrania
20. Harvest Moon

yeah i've beaten lttp countless times. don't even want to think about it really. mordy i wonder if you got stuck in the ice palace, that's the hard one imo.

here's mine - not sure why i included sim ant except to pad out my ballot:

[S] Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
[S] Chrono Trigger
[S] ActRaiser
[S] Super Mario World
[SG] NBA Jam
[b] Tetris
[S] Pilotwings
[S] Donkey Kong Country
[SG] Lost Vikings
[b] Legend of Zelda: Link’s Awakening
[SG] Super Off-Road
[S] Aladdin
[b] Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3
[S] Secret of Mana
[S] Killer Instinct
[G] Golden Axe
[S] ActRaiser 2
[SG] Earthworm Jim
[G] Sonic the Hedgehog
[S] Sim Ant

lol i only played sim ant on pc but loved it obsessively even tho it was broken. the manual was in two parts: the manual, and then a longer section that was just ant facts. to this day i know a lot about ants.

after each beating it did get easier for whatever that's worth

i would rush through things and by the third time you'd get a nice routine going and just focus on hunting for heart pieces or talking to the right dudes in the right order to help you move along faster

that's in reference to lttp btw

Oh shit, how did I forget to vote for Ecco the Dolphin?!?! Loved that game!

I'll post my ballot as soon as I'm somewhere other than my stupid Gmail-blocking workplace.

also forgot to vote for ecco tho i think i liked the album more <joekz>

ha, my vote got On the Ball in juuuuuust ahead of Mortal Kombat II. no regrets.

games that deserved better:

94 - Gradius 3 - 27 points / 2 Votes (i should have voted for this, given the amount of time i spent playing it...wait a second, WHERE THE FUCK IS SUPER R-TYPE? NO ONE voted for it!?!?! that game is amazing, we have all sinned)
97 - Super Off Road - 24 points / 2 Votes (holds up very well even today, multiplayer esp. but even single-player)
127 - Super Punchout - 10 points / 1 Vote (!!!!!!!! i'm the only person who voted for this? are you all fucking insane??)

my ballot, SNES-exclusive, sorry

1. [S] On the Ball
[S] Secret of Mana
[S] Tetris Attack / Panel de Pon
[SG] Street Fighter II & SFII' Turbo
[SG] Another World/Out Of This World
[S] Final Fantasy VI (III)
[S] Harvest Moon
[S] Super Mario World
[S] Super Mario Kart
[S] Earthbound
[SG] Earthworm Jim
[S] Pilotwings
[S] StarFox
[S] Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
[S] Donkey Kong Country
[S] Super Punchout
[S] Super Metroid
[S] Gradius 3
[SG] Super Off Road
20. [S] Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

KM iirc you were a big marble madness stan too?

wait, i did vote for gradius 3. phew.

but still, super r-type was the superior game, i think. zero votes is terrible.

shooters just not my bag

i'm a huge marble madness fan (in fact, i was slow to this thread the last hour or so because i watching this excellent talk by the creator: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/184925/Video_The_making_of_1984s_Marble_Madness.php), but it didn't come out for SNES and i didn't play the game boy or genesis ports.

127 - Super Punchout - 10 points / 1 Vote (!!!!!!!! i'm the only person who voted for this? are you all fucking insane??)

I would have voted for the NES version for sure. I'm not sure I played the SNES one.

xp i asked bc yr #1 here seems v similar

it's true, i love marble games. nothing gets the heart going faster