Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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baby-faced child w/ Perot ears

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link

He and Flynn both look like leprechauns, Flynn a demonic one and Sessions a seemingly more benign one

Treeship, Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:19 (seven years ago) link

so Trump really wants an investigation of Obama based on something he read in Breitbart with no supporting evidence, and doesn't want an investigation of Russia despite there actually being evidence of meddling in that case.

idiots like Ben Sasse taking up this cause make me want to put my shoe through a window.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link

just so fucking tired of feeling angry, scared, and exasperated

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link

not to defend him, but I don't think that's what Sasse is doing

Moodles, Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link

I spoke too soon on Sasse because the way it was framed in the news report was misleading until I played the video clip.

what he said was more similar to Lindsey Graham which to be honest was reasonable.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:30 (seven years ago) link

actually the most reassuring thing to me is that there aren't more Republicans yelling OMG INVESTIGATE more than "ooooooooook, uhh, wanna give us some details or something"

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link

yeah benghazi-ing obama on this would be such a base win for trump, i don't see how they _don't_ really try to make it happen. until aliens attack earth and unify humanity, i don't anything that can stop that as the new primary beetbort objective.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:35 (seven years ago) link

until aliens attack earth and unify humanity

oh for Ozymandias right now

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:36 (seven years ago) link

Still think that Trump Inc's. Russia connections and possible tomfoolery are real but separate from Russian interference in the election, but the Russian interference in the election and in particular Trump's surprise win have inextricably connected the two. Hence Trump's frustration.

I'd buy this and until recently I was sure this was the case, but then why all these weird little communications between his administration/campaign and the Russians, and why does the admin continue to lie about it until they can't anymore?

I don't believe that Trump's frustration is a result of him knowing he's been treated unfairly - he reacted like this when people kept attacking the obvious scam that was Trump University. I honestly don't think he knows the difference between right and wrong, legal and illegal.

frogbs, Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:36 (seven years ago) link

speaking of horrors: Thomas Friedman is still alive.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link

Because his administration and campaign are populated by independently wealthy and scheming business people who probably had their own personal connections to Russia, people who would be back channel communicating with Russia no matter what. But when Trump won they suddenly came on board with him, and all their independent and individual sneakiness became Collective and subject to public scrutiny.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:51 (seven years ago) link

Xpost

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:51 (seven years ago) link

Sessions and Flynn? That would be surprising to me.

frogbs, Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link

let's say it was confirmed that Trump campaign had established a quid-pro-quo w/ Russia that they would leak hacked DNC & Clinton campaign emails in exchange for removing sanctions. what's the probability of Trump actually being impeached?

flopson, Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link

Zero

Οὖτις, Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link

"hey boris, you've made a really smart investment here..."

"da i think this will be very good for business, to cripple ukraine, end nato, and capture squirrel!"

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Sunday, 5 March 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link

"hey guys, we all know the climate's changing. let's cash in on these new oil fields open to us now in the russian arctic"

"but that means we'd have to get the feds to lift sanctions. what can we do about that?"

"hey, i know a guy"

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:02 (seven years ago) link

I think Trump honestly believes there were 3 million illegal votes and that he won the popular vote and the greatest electoral college margin in history solely by the power of his own charisma and excellent deal-making.

example (crüt), Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link

I think Trump lacks phenomenal experience

softie (silby), Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:12 (seven years ago) link

wh now calling for congressional investigation into potential abuses of power by the Obama administration related to the purported wiretaps (also hilariously declining to comment further). if wiretaps existed, have to think this will bring up whatever evidence was there to obtain the FISA warrant in the first place and if the wiretaps didn't exist then presumably this would be determined as a result of the investigation. either way, this doesnt seem like the smartest play.

art, Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:16 (seven years ago) link

also seems likely Congress doesn't investigate at all BC the Wh hasn't presented any evidence to support their claims so, why waste the time?

art, Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:18 (seven years ago) link

the events of the last week have really been damaging to the 5D chess narrative some still cling to, is basically what im coming to. the wh doesn't seem to really have things under control at the moment

art, Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link

Overview of the DoJ and their likely white supremacist schemes. Probably old news, but the most surprising bit to me was the revelation that Bannon and Sessions (and Miller) went back a ways.

The Flautist of Flatus (Old Lunch), Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link

Both Susan Collins and Tom Cotton (Senate Intel members) said this morning "We've seen no evidence at all" and are pretty much saying the WH has to give it up if it exists. Also on the roffle front: Mike Rogers, former House Intel chairman as well as Trump transition guy -- much like, say, Nunes, said this:

"(Trump) just put another quarter in the conspiracy parking meter."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:25 (seven years ago) link

wh now calling for congressional investigation into potential abuses of power by the Obama administration

Will this come before or after the investigation into voter fraud? Or before or after Melania's anti-bullying measures?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:27 (seven years ago) link

let's say it was confirmed that Trump campaign had established a quid-pro-quo w/ Russia that they would leak hacked DNC & Clinton campaign emails in exchange for removing sanctions. what's the probability of Trump actually being impeached?

― flopson, Sunday, March 5, 2017 9:56 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Zero

― Οὖτις, Sunday, March 5, 2017 9:57 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if this were actually demonstrated in the public record they would have to impeach him, especially if it were also demonstrated the pence was somehow blameless

i don't have a lot of confidence in a republican controlled congress but a quid pro quo that involved election tampering would be tough to wave off

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:27 (seven years ago) link

This is a guy who was about to call for a nationwide recount to prove he won the popular vote, until McConnell talked him down. Now he wants to go on the road, leave all the staff behind and make his own decisions.
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El Tomboto, Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link

oh good -- another week distracting the Congress from ACA repeal and a budget.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:32 (seven years ago) link

“Reports concerning potentially politically motivated investigations immediately ahead of the 2016 election are very troubling,” Spicer said. “President Donald J. Trump is requesting that as part of their investigation into Russian activity, the congressional intelligence committees exercise their oversight authority to determine whether executive branch investigative powers were abused in 2016.”

Hold up, if Trump demands an investigation into Trump Tower wiretapping, then ... doesn't he invite congressional investigators to expand their search to include Trump, his staff, their phone records, etc?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link

all part of the fiendish 5D chess plan, man...

sleeve, Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link

another week distracting the Congress from ACA repeal and a budget.

OTM this is exactly what I've been saying to ppl myself

Οὖτις, Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:53 (seven years ago) link

Despite the distractions, it looks like wh and congress are starting to coalesce around a health care plan. Whether it can pass is another question, but I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing this move forward faster.

Moodles, Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link

Thats the one thing i worry about with a President Pence. Less distraction from passing shitty legislation.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link

Even that would be better than the utter disaster we are facing right now

Moodles, Sunday, 5 March 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link

The dude i just saw at a truck stop Arby's with an "I Love Squirters" shirt would be an upgrade

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link

Rand Paul certainly didn't get the "distract from the aca shitshow" memo

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Sunday, 5 March 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link

Remember when Trump was going to investigate voter fraud

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

nope. fake news. you're the puppet

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 5 March 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link

He meant he was going to investigate Voter Frog

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 March 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link

He and Flynn both look like leprechauns, Flynn a demonic one and Sessions a seemingly more benign one

― Treeship, Sunday, March 5, 2017 3:19 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've been trying to think what exactly Flynn reminds me of. I think there's a specific Orc from the LOTR series that he always reminded me of.
Also some kind of Henson or Anderson portrayal of a witch.

Did wonder if there was more to the Ron Moody as Fagin thing than being reminded of the song from Oliver by what Trump said, but not sure. Reviewing the situation like.

Stevolende, Sunday, 5 March 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link

Flynn is totally hatchet faced. He looks like Mickey Rourke's guy from "Sin City." Or Dick Tracy.
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Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 March 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link

Hold up, if Trump demands an investigation into Trump Tower wiretapping, then ... doesn't he invite congressional investigators to expand their search to include Trump, his staff, their phone records, etc?

I'm sure Congressional Republicans will be all over that...

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 5 March 2017 21:35 (seven years ago) link

I just tried to figure out if any member of a committee can issue a subpoena or just the chair, and its...unclear at best.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 5 March 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link

from https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/838446582743859200

1/ trump’s hunger for news-like sources that confirm his worldview is building a conspiracy theory feedback loop that will get stronger

2/ if you thought the incentives for clickbait headlines were bad, imagine the incentives for trumpbait news...

3/ if i’m an alt-right writer in trump’s orbit, the last 48 hours show that trump will lavish valuable attention on theories w/o evidence

4/ it is the perfect marriage of convenience: right-wing media sources provide ersatz “intel,” and trump rewards them with publicity

5/ … and the best stories hit the media jackpot: not just attn, but influence. congress is launching an investigation based on tweets!

6/ you don’t need a media dictatorship to build 21st-c Pravda; in the right conditions, it will self-construct under attn-driven economics

frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 5 March 2017 21:42 (seven years ago) link

The original source of the rumour that Trump / Trump Tower were bugged appears to have been Louise Mensch (something she now seems to deny saying). This was picked up by Breitbart and then on to Trump - whose reaction triggered more Heat Street speculation. You have a feedback loop of people who should lock themselves in an airtight room and lose the key.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 5 March 2017 21:49 (seven years ago) link

if fuckin' only

frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 5 March 2017 21:51 (seven years ago) link

Louise Mensch must be made up that someone is treating her as something other than a posh troll.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Sunday, 5 March 2017 21:54 (seven years ago) link

The feedback loop might grow stronger but it is not getting bigger. If anything it is shrinking and getting denser, like a black hole.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 March 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link


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