Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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after the ACA gets revised and passes and ten million people lose coverage and the plans are these garbage skinny plans with 25k deductibles and the high risk pool costs too much for anybody to participate in, Trump will probably launch and investigation: "Where are my plans? These aren't the plans I promised. What did you do with them?"

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link

Seems like Graham is someone the Dems should start working on. There's at least a little wiggle room with that dude.

The twin snake of violence and sex is more like a sick wolf. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link

xpost yeah it is, it points out that the DOJ has the means to actually put an end to the speculation and Trump himself could declassify any data he was aware of. Lindsey and Sheldon both know the response they're going to get and it will be hilarious.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link

so Trump and Melania are having the Cruzes over for dinner tonight.

I would be willing to forgive, say, three terrible things Trump has done if he would serve them soup for dinner.

evol j, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link

Ugh, just when I thought I couldn't have any less respect for Cruz.

The twin snake of violence and sex is more like a sick wolf. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

Seems like Graham is someone the Dems should start working on. There's at least a little wiggle room with that dude.

http://www.cma-marketing.net/assets/nudge-nudge-web.jpg

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link

I would be willing to forgive, say, three terrible things Trump has done if he would serve them soup for dinner.

― evol j, Wednesday, March 8, 2017 1:16 PM (three minutes ago)

I should think the Cruzes would eat crow.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link

There's at least a little wiggle room with that dude.

uh

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link

maybe they will finally figure out who killed JFK

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link

xpost I'm glad you were the one to go there.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link

wiggle wiggle wiggle like a bowl of soup

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link

xpost I'm glad you were the one to go there.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, March 8, 2017

I wouldn't go to to the corner with Graham Cracker.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:35 (seven years ago) link

I jus t read that – fascinating

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link

how long do we think before we have another Pizzagate scenario where a civilian hears fake news and nearly or actually kills someone because of it? I'm not even talking the hate crimes that have escalated under this Presidency, I'm talking phony bullshit news either perpetuated by Trump or his cronies at Breitbart that have caused unstable idiots to do things?

It's possible that this will be Pizzagate again, though it doesn't really fit the 'perpetuated by Trump or Brietbart' description.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link

spicer's getting eaten alive by basic questions about ahca

marcos, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:13 (seven years ago) link

Trump will probably launch and investigation: "Where are my plans? These aren't the plans I promised. What did you do with them?"

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-06/15/17/enhanced/webdr07/anigif_enhanced-18783-1434402346-2.gif

may all your memes be dank (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:20 (seven years ago) link

T/F

many republicans (and some democrats) would welcome an ISIS-sponsored attack on U.S. soil followed by an escalation of war against ISIS (boots on the ground) because it would boost favorability for their party and distract from domestic issues, like what's (not) happening with The World's Greatest Healthcare Plan of 2017.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:23 (seven years ago) link

wtf at that breitbart link, is that for real?

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:25 (seven years ago) link

Yes.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link

......Dearborn Michigan, where Sharia Law is established.

......an area of Dearborn that is known as no-go zone for Law Enforcement Officials, because of the high rate of violence and suicide bombings within the area.

salthigh, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:44 (seven years ago) link

breitbartinsider.com is a fake breitbart innit?

frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:44 (seven years ago) link

URL is brietbartinsider.com

gr8080, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:45 (seven years ago) link

xpost

gr8080, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:45 (seven years ago) link

FAKE FAKE NEWS

frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:46 (seven years ago) link

Lol!

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:47 (seven years ago) link

Mock turtles all the way down.

The twin snake of violence and sex is more like a sick wolf. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link

fake news era so confusing

gr8080, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link

in a similar but real DMX vein.. one of the victims of the hate crime in kansas city was named Srinivas Kuchibhotla but the pic they used for him in a local news report graphic was actually of Sri Srinivasan, currently court of appeals judge and liberal Supreme Court candidate should we ever have a dem president again. kind of a big fuckup nobody but a nerd like me noticed.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link

Well, thankfully they at least had the presence of mind to avoid using a picture of Gandhi when they did their image search for 'indian guy'.

The twin snake of violence and sex is more like a sick wolf. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

at least had the presence of mind to avoid using a picture of Gandhi when they did their image search for 'indian guy'

Aw, c'mon, Lunch. The ideal image search result for 'indian guy' is

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/d/d7/Crying_Indian_screenshot.png/revision/latest?cb=20100221072516

may all your memes be dank (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

ideal image result for sicilian guy

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:35 (seven years ago) link

Seems like Graham is someone the Dems should start working on.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) faced jeers from a town hall crowd in Clemson, S.C. on Saturday after he said he “mostly” agrees with President Trump's agenda.

“I’m going to try to help our president, Donald Trump, be as successful as possible because, number one, I agree with him mostly and I’d like to get this country moving again,” Graham said.

The crowd responded with audible boos.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:36 (seven years ago) link

Graham is all talk

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

That 'mostly' is about as much as we can hope for from a GOP-er atm, but it's a start. The boos just need to get louder.

The twin snake of violence and sex is more like a sick wolf. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

Until someone gets the boot then it's all talk on both sides.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link

I do think there's a chance that, foreign policy-wise, something really damning leaks and McCain and Graham turn on him, but it will have to be pretty spectacular

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

Well, thankfully they at least had the presence of mind to avoid using a picture of Gandhi when they did their image search for 'indian guy'.

Ben Kingsley seems more likely.

Return of the Flustered Bootle Native (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link

Holy shit, "World’s Greatest Healthcare Plan of 2017," get the fuck out!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link

The WSJ paywall-workaround (googling the headline and going to the story from the results page) doesn't work for me anymore.

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-obamacare-repeal_us_58c04851e4b0ed71826945f1?0dea5u1g7zj8aor

god these fucksticks really are going to play chicken with our entire healthcare system, aren't they? Trump can't back down because he has to look like the guy who Gets Things Done. and all the seemingly "principled" GOP legislators are petrified of a presidential Twitter rebuke. not saying this is definitely how things will go but seeing it all laid out this way, it's depressingly plausible.

are we really left with cheering on Bannon's sheer insanity? strange bedfellows.

evol j, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:58 (seven years ago) link

that Esquire link gave me (on zing) a full-screen can't-be-dismissed pop-up asking me to enter my email to unlock Esquire's list of 80 must-read books

a) how on earth is this a winning strategy for attracting return eyeballs
b) can someone c+p the article here

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:00 (seven years ago) link

Holy shit, "World’s Greatest Healthcare Plan of 2017," get the fuck out!

the sequel to the World's Greatest Healthcare Plan Act of 2016 (HR 5284, sponsored by Pete Sessions): https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/5284

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:02 (seven years ago) link

Ben Kingsley seems more likely.

image search for Krishna Bhanji

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:02 (seven years ago) link

Yes, sign me up!
or
No, I don't want to unlock the list of 80 must-read books because I hate knowledge and books and I am everything that is wrong with the future and past, take me straight to the article and do all of my thinking for me since I can't read a book apparently

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link

xp to sic

Give the current administration credit. It's managed to energize American politics in the most unlikely places. And as I know from personal experience, and from a campaign a long time ago in an election far, far away, one of the hardest places to energize secular politics is in among the Mennonite communities in Pennsylvania. That takes a master's hand, as we can see from this report from McClatchy, courtesy of The Wichita Eagle.

"Hey Smucker," said the sign, written in red, green, and blue marker. "300 years ago our Mennonite family took sanctuary in PA, just like yours did. "Lancaster values immigrants." The anger might have been directed at Smucker, but Martin and Corbo were really there – like 100 others – because of President Donald Trump.The two women were among a hundred newly engaged activists assembled in Republican-heavy Lancaster County – an area that went to Trump in November by 57 percent – braving toe-freezing temperatures to protest Trump and the lawmaker, who was 200 yards away at a chamber of commerce breakfast. That Martin and Corbo were protesters was – by their own admission – a remarkable development. Both are members of the Mennonite Church, a religion that encourages its members to stay away from politics just as it asks them to shun the wider culture. For most of their lives Martin, 57, and her daughter, 30, did just that, occasionally voting for Democrats but rarely paying attention to politics outside the polling booth. "I've never been politically active . . . because we have a really strong belief in separation of church and state," Martin said. "Mennonites have always felt our allegiance is to Christ, and not to our state."

The Mennonites are the kind of stubborn people of faith for whom the First Amendment was designed and for whom the American principles of religious freedom was a beacon—namely, those against whom the power of the state was exercised in a fashion more direct than having to provide birth control to their heathen employees.

The first of them fled to America to avoid persecution in Europe at the invitation of William Penn. In 1688, the Mennonites wrote the first formal protest against American slavery. They declined to serve in the military in any American wars, including the Revolution itself. (This became particularly acute during the Civil War, when the Mennonite opposition to slavery collided with their opposition to military service. In Pennsylvania, their great patron was abolitionist Senator Thaddeus Stevens.) Their idea of a separation of church and state is ironclad, but it's the product of centuries of debate and serious contemplation. Being apolitical during a war is a very political act.

So, while it's unusual to see Mennonites as active as they are today, it's hardly inconsistent with their history.

And maybe the most unexpected members of that movement are Mennonites such as Martin and Corbo. Interviews with on-the-ground liberal activists and leaders of Mennonite churches reveal that many in the community have seen Trump's inauguration as a call to action, in some cases reversing a lifetime of political reclusiveness to oppose the president's policies. Two of the four organizers, in fact, of the morning's protest were Mennonites. Organizations connected to the church have written in opposition to the immigration ban, decrying it as contrary to the church's values. Maybe most famously, it was a Mennonite pastor from Harrisonburg, Virginia, who conceived of a sign with the words, "No matter where you are from, we're glad you're our neighbor," written in English, Spanish and Arabic. The signs have become a nationwide phenomenon, sold even on Amazon. "For Mennonites, a lot of times the standard is you're supposed to turn the other cheek," Corbo said. "But it also is not meaning to turn a blind eye, you know?"

The Mennonites are in the street. Something's building out there.

BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
MAR 8, 2017

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link

Would you say they're ... circling the wagons?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link

Oh that makes me deliciously happy

xp not that

the world's little sunbeam (in orbit), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link


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