everybody's tryna flip the script and put out low gravity beers in winter, saving the hard hitting imperial stuff for springtime. they all stole the scheme from Bell's (winter white / oberon)
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:55 (seven years ago) link
"sour ipa" seems like such a dumb american novelty style, like the stupidly obvious next step in dumb craft beer trends, but man i fucking LOVE them
― marcos, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:55 (seven years ago) link
if we are still talking sours, I want to shout out Paradox's Skully Barrel line which I have found to be top to bottom amazing
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:47 (seven years ago) link
I don't have access to or the budget for a lot of sours, but New Belgium La Folie is my favorite. Monk's Cafe Flemish, mentioned upthread, is good too.
― scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link
Upland, Cascade, Desthil, Prairie, WeldWerks, Boulevard all do great sours.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:53 (seven years ago) link
I paid $28 for an Upland Peach the other day and it was absolutely worth it.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:54 (seven years ago) link
Boulevard does great at everything in my experience
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:04 (seven years ago) link
lagunitas aunt sally is another dry-hopped sour (a cool style imo) that i think is really really good
along these lines, new belgium 'la folie' is one of the best beers i've ever had, def worth 14/15 for a bomber if you see one
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link
cool i will give it a try. new belgium is generally good ime
― marcos, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link
though i confuse them with new holland which is also pretty good
A friend brought over a 1989 Bigfoot Barleywine a couple months ago, it held up pretty well. I think it was either the 2nd or 3rd batch that Sierra Nevada produced.
Also that same friend brought a 2003 Westvleteren XII to a share 2 weeks ago. He loves old beer.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 19:02 (seven years ago) link
Forgot about La Folie, I agree, it's very impressive. Haven't tried this year's though.
Never got around to trying Aunt Sally, though I meant to. I think it's not in stores now.
― nickn, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link
worth noting that new belgium pasteurizes their sours so there is no point or effect to aging also
the 2014 one was the best i thought
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link
I just saw a bunch of Aunt Sally actually, at my favorite beer store when I visit Portland. Also had a bunch of Half Acre beers which I've never seen outside Chicago, I got four packs of regular and double Daisy Cutter.
Also I never think about New Belgium for some reason, I've never really liked much of what I'd had from them and they all seem to share some unique characteristic that I don't care for, same with Rogue. This was awesome in Las Vegas a couple years ago where there seemed to be only one decent beer bar, and when I drove there they had a New Belgium tap takeover.
― joygoat, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 00:31 (seven years ago) link
Back to Ipas because sours are too sour and lagers and pilsners are too boring
― calstars, Friday, 31 March 2017 23:01 (seven years ago) link
haven't had a beer in a week bc of the flu :(
― marcos, Friday, 31 March 2017 23:15 (seven years ago) link
Had a good trip to LA last week: visited Bottle Logic (known for their BA stouts), Monkish (known for their IPAs), Highland Park Brewery*, The Bruery, Firestone Walker and also ducked into the new Mikkeller Bar and Barbara's (great pub). It's amazing how LA turned around it's beer culture from the last time I was there.
*Drive Like Jehu fans should note that it's located next to Mark Trombino's donut shop.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 31 March 2017 23:26 (seven years ago) link
Shit man that sounds awesomeJust another reason to visit the promised land
― calstars, Friday, 31 March 2017 23:35 (seven years ago) link
how was highland park? my buddy lives near it and was talking it up last time i saw him.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 April 2017 00:46 (seven years ago) link
Highland Park brewery is located in (behind) the Hermosillo restaurant on York, right? I like their beers.
― nickn, Saturday, 1 April 2017 01:11 (seven years ago) link
Monkish are one of the better local breweries
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Saturday, 1 April 2017 01:27 (seven years ago) link
I've been enjoying the slightly boring but stupidly fresh and high quality lagers from Chicago's Baderbrau lately. Aside from Marz it's the closest place making beer near where I live.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Saturday, 1 April 2017 02:39 (seven years ago) link
back on a sour tear recently, managing to have 4 kinds in the past several days. this one was my favorite but it was also $18 a bottle : (
https://apinthalffull.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/wp-image-128613897jpg.jpg
― calstars, Sunday, 2 April 2017 22:22 (seven years ago) link
Threes neither way, hoppy lager, recommended
― calstars, Saturday, 8 April 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link
North Coast Le Merle is very delicious but then again it would be
― The Jams Manager (1992, Brickster) (El Tomboto), Sunday, 9 April 2017 23:54 (seven years ago) link
Had a 2017 kbs yesterday for the first time ever
I truly don't understand the hype
I'm glad i just walked in and asked the beer guy what hard to get bottles he had and he just happened to have it
Otherwise i feel it's at the very least on par with Abita's bourbon st barrel aged coffee stout (haven't had it in a long while)
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Sunday, 16 April 2017 16:15 (seven years ago) link
some of the KBS hype has to be due to its longevity, right? been brewed since 2003 according to the internet.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 17 April 2017 19:37 (seven years ago) link
Had the Lost Nation Gose and was underwhelmed. Not sure what I was expecting, maybe something a bit more sour or with more oomph, but it was just strange. Maybe an acquired taste but at 8 bucks a pop not sure I'll be going back
― calstars, Monday, 17 April 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link
xp
i'll keep an eye out for a vintage bottle when trading, that might be better?
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 17 April 2017 23:15 (seven years ago) link
i wouldn't trade for old kbs and trust some rando had it cellared correctly.
it's sort of a legacy beer at this point and i thought it tasted a touch thin this year but the guys i compare notes with loved it. i think it's a more measured take on barrel aging than a lot of examples with a more recent pedigree.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 00:07 (seven years ago) link
KBS is a fantastic Whole Foods pick up, not sure I'd rate it any higher than that. Last year's sat around almost a full year at my local spots.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 00:53 (seven years ago) link
I've always thought it was well balanced/solid. Not my favorite BBA stout, but always consistently good. I have a preference for more punch you in the face with bourbon BBA stouts.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 01:49 (seven years ago) link
origin storyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hIC7F-qe9Q
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link
Sipping a glass now, gotta say that Lagunitas's The Waldos Special Ale - "the hoppiest, dankest beer we've ever brewed!" or something - is not an easy drinker. Super bitter and surprisingly strong at nearly 12% (which is more than I thought it be when I poured it), though given the alcohol level well balanced. I like double IPAs, but might not be my thing and might not be the best thing to drink while I'm getting dinner ready.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 April 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link
had this one the other night, it was a very solid Belgian style. for a SoCal brewer it's perhaps a tad bit distasteful depending on what you think the statute of limitations is for this kind of thing.
http://barleyforge.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/hero_the_black_dahlia.png
― nomar, Monday, 24 April 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link
josh, you sound surprised that a 12% 3xIPA is not the best aperitif
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 00:02 (seven years ago) link
Wow, that label is pretty ott.
― nickn, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 01:09 (seven years ago) link
xpost Ha, I honestly didn't even look at what it was before I bought it or even opened it! I just thought, huh, here's one of their one-offs, I'll pick up a six-pack. This was weeks ago, iirc. So I had put a couple in the fridge when I came back from a trip, then finally opened the first one tonight. It wasn't until I was a few sips in that I decided to investigate what I was drinking!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 03:34 (seven years ago) link
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GD6qtc2_AQA/maxresdefault.jpg
lol fair
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 03:51 (seven years ago) link
yesterday: ABI buys Wicked Weedtoday: Heineken doubles down on Lagunitas to 100% ownership
tomorrow?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link
I'm for sale, buy me ABI!
― Jeff, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link
OK, gave The Waldos Special Ale another chance, and ... just can't do it. Way too bitter for me, not fun to drink.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link
i've been enjoying ciders a lot lately
― marcos, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link
there are a lot of bad ciders through. most of the ones on the shelf are not good. but the good are ones are amazing
link:
http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Heineken-buys-rest-of-Lagunitas-as-beer-sales-go-11121674.php
― HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link
RE Waldo's: maybe my tastebuds are IPA-fried, but I thought there was quite a bit of sweetness (peach/apricot notes) along with the bitter. Alcohol burn, too. For all that I thought it was well-balanced. I liked it, but probably not enough to buy again.
― I don't really like any of these albums (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link
I tried a cider from 101, which I had avoided because of their "probiotic" claims, but the Black Dog one was good. It has blood orange and lavender in it (the lavender was also off-putting but a friend said it was good).
And I will re-state my enjoyment of Seattle Cider's "DRY" type.
― nickn, Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link
I got the sweetness in the Waldo, but my tastebuds still got bitter first and foremost. No alcohol burn, though, but that is a bugaboo of mine. Wine is higher ABV than all but the strongest of beers, and there's no burn there. So why should beer have burn? Unless I am misunderstanding the term and/or have had too much high proof bourbon.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:04 (seven years ago) link
https://www.beeradvocate.com/articles/15649/its-official-new-england-india-pale-ale-is-a-style/
― Jeff, Friday, 5 May 2017 02:12 (seven years ago) link