no accounting for taste
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 01:44 (seven years ago) link
lol soz but as soon as the medic took a big ole bite out of Jason's heart I knew it was gonna be a long 90 minutes
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 01:45 (seven years ago) link
binge watching these now, up to VI Jason Lives.
So far I'd say 4 was the best due to more interesting characters.
V is an utter joke.
I am liking this new and improved super Jase in VI so far.
― PressAnarchyToContinue (Ste), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link
totally confused as to how Jason got to NYC though.
― PressAnarchyToContinue (Ste), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link
there's a boat
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link
yeah, I wasn't sure how the small boat got from the lake to big boat. Guess there's some kind of river.
― PressAnarchyToContinue (Ste), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link
jason isn't generally constrained by the laws of physics by that point in the series
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 June 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
Doubt it will stay up long, but some psycho edited all of the movies together into one sort of coherent 85 minute movie that has every victim/camper converge on Camp Crystal Lake at once to be picked off at a crazy clip:
https://vimeo.com/289599739?cjevent=0f5e55b1ca8711e8837d01b30a240614
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 October 2018 01:00 (five years ago) link
ok so 3-8 are all on prime and what do i have better to do with my life than rewatch the friday the 13th movies for the 2918290049th time?
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 19:12 (five years ago) link
but this time i came away really loving vii: the new blood. it's deeply flawed and was sliced and diced in order to get an r rating... yet it rocks??? probably the only movie in the series where there's a stronger antagonist than jason in the mix (dr. crews, the worst gaslighting piece of shit man in the world!!!!) which makes the dynamic sooo interesting; jason kinda becomes this subconscious response to one's life and pain being exploited constantly by abusive men. practically a horror essay in and of itself!
sleeping bag death forever
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 19:17 (five years ago) link
i also like part v now! it's so sleazy and mean and yet... the free range halfway house for teens with mental illness is a v weird place for jason to murder a bunch of people, it kind of reminds me of dream warriors for some reason? i normally don't spend a lot of time identifying with the people jason murders but in v i basically feel them all (except for the hillbillies) (god what a fucking weird movie)
lot of objectively lame things about the movie like the twist and ending with tommy jarvis' second heel turn in two movies, but i loooove the character of traumatized tommy jarvis regardless, if anything the worst tommy is part vi's horn dog dumbass who accidentally resurrects jason by impaling his dead body with a large metal pole, we all saw that one coming tommy (i love him too don't worry)
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 19:23 (five years ago) link
i just watched them all except for freddy v jason and imo:6412goes to hell (i can't believe this movie exists)xmanhattan7reboot53― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, January 17, 2017 6:04 PM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
6412goes to hell (i can't believe this movie exists)xmanhattan7reboot53
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, January 17, 2017 6:04 PM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
jason goes to hell pales in memory, i need to rewatch it but now that i have more affection for the core 8, i can no longer completely fuck with it. my current ranking:
vi: jason livesvii: the new bloodiitie: jason takes manhattan / jason x (basically the same movie, boat vs. space)iv: the final chapterv: a new beginningiiiijason goes to hellreboot
weird that they all changed lol
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link
oh i've seen freddy vs jason now, it's somewhere in the bottom of that ranking. i think it's fun but it's tarnished for me bc freddy makes a racist joke at kelly rowland
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 19:32 (five years ago) link
...and then she calls him a faggot
― mumsnet blvd (wins), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 19:43 (five years ago) link
oh yeah! i for some reason erased *that* part from my memory. fuck freddy vs. jason (which is so so fun outside of that scene, whyyyy)
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 19:46 (five years ago) link
It’s jarring as hellWhat I mostly remember about that film is how explicitly it emphasises (to the point of exaggeration) the sexual undertones of both franchises - Freddie’s child molestation and the virginity of the lead character - in a way that feels properly sleazy and nasty. Obv that kind of making the subtext text was what passed for clever in the 90s slashers, but it really gave that film an edge (and yeah, it is generally fun)
― mumsnet blvd (wins), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link
I do not love this franchise but I enjoyed goes to hell a lot, also whichever one has the kids in
― mumsnet blvd (wins), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link
VI, which is the best. I actually read the novelization of that one!Hell was the only one I saw in the theaters. I did not pick a winner, but it definitely has perhaps the best cold open.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 20:55 (five years ago) link
vi does a pretty great tightrope walk imo, extremely goofy and fun and meta but also straight up chilling at points, cf. the one cabin with blood spattered EVERYWHERE, anytime jason's figure looms over the kids and you wonder "is... is he going to murder children??!?!?!"
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 20:58 (five years ago) link
The cutaway to a kid reading no exit before bed was a good cheap lol I was not expecting, also “what were you gonna be when you grew up?”
― mumsnet blvd (wins), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 21:03 (five years ago) link
Terry Kiser was Dr Crews in #7. A real "That Guy" actor. He was good as a corpse in the two Weekend at Bernie's films but i think i first saw him as a comedian named "Vic Hitler" iirc on WKRP.
― omar little, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 21:07 (five years ago) link
― mumsnet blvd (wins), Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:03 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
two of my favorite moments in the whole series
vi is just an embarrassment of awesome scenes. hard rock summer in the usa
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link
The humour in these films is usually excruciating to me so I maybe overrate it when it lands
― mumsnet blvd (wins), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link
also something i noticed recently: the only friday movies with zero nudity are i and vi
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 22:58 (five years ago) link
Interesting! That's like learning that "The Godfather" supposedly has no profanity (I haven't seen it for a while).
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 23:13 (five years ago) link
― omar little, Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:07 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark
vic hitler is from hill street blues
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 23:28 (five years ago) link
yeah that's right, he was someone else on WKRP. Also had a recurring role early during Night Court's run.
― omar little, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 23:32 (five years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:13 PM bookmarkflaglink
Woltz says "son of a bitch"
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 October 2019 04:29 (four years ago) link
I've seen these shitty movies so many times over the years, in various forms and formats, and only noticed something nuts: Jason's mom goes crazy because he died unsupervised at the camp as a kid in the late '50s. So how did Jason become a full grown adult by the second movie?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 October 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
no one knows
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 28 October 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link
well, also, he's a full grown adult because these movies take place in the '80s. my theory is that he didn't die and lived in the woods for 20 years, either unbeknownst to his mom or beknownst to his mom but she was still driven by the delusion that he died. this idea is sorta ventured in friday part 2
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 28 October 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link
Isn’t it suggested he didn’t drown and survived as a feral youth in the woods or something?
― YouGov to see it (wins), Monday, 28 October 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link
Xp yeah that I think
― YouGov to see it (wins), Monday, 28 October 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link
I think he's actually just a very large child.
― Eldridge Borgnine (Old Lunch), Monday, 28 October 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link
So really ... his mom was the negligent one.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link
xpost Like Blaster in Thunderdome?
So the deformed Jason pulling her under is assumed to be a hallucination?
Granted that makes sense because Jason or the Voorhies were never meant to be explored again in the series, originally
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link
https://horrorenthusiast.com/index.php/bloody-tabloid/friday-the-13th-franchise/61-is-jason-voorhees-immortal-friday-the-13th-facts
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
It may seem odd on the face of it to suggest that he's a child, but it actually explains a lot of otherwise inexplicable aspects of the character of Jason Vorhees, like why he's always skipping and asking passersby for a lolly.
― Eldridge Borgnine (Old Lunch), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link
Jason vs Thunderdome was clearly the best of these
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link
He's also like Evil Sloth, maybe.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link
yes but this also makes no sense. my theory is that, despite the existence of a corporeal adult jason, the ghost of young jason haunts the lake
but these movies also don't care if they make any sense
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link
I like the maybe-fakeout maybe-nightmare who cares ending of 2. “Where’s Paul?”
― YouGov to see it (wins), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link
I might watch the really terrible ones tonight
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
Going too deep into the postgame worldbuilding wrt these characters whose initial conception basically began and ended with 'dude in weird mask kills folks for...reasons?' is how we get Michael Myers the druidic golem (or whatever the hell that nonsense was).
― Eldridge Borgnine (Old Lunch), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link
Oh god, the Cult of Thorn
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
My current personal hot take on the franchise is that the TV series trumps the movie series. It is such wonderfully cheesy goodness.
― Eldridge Borgnine (Old Lunch), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
The episode with the evil compact that made people obsessively fall in love with the wielder, who then felt compelled to kill them, was great
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Monday, October 28, 2019 8:39 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i put myself through the nightmare on elm street sequels this year and it's official: halloween is still the worst horror franchise i've ever seen (still love almost every movie in it though)
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
Mind, the whys and hows of these movies' mythologies are of course pretty meaningless; Carpenter got it right the first time when he simply hand-waved Michael away as "pure evil" or whatever. But even so, in the case of Jason specifically, his death due to counselor negligence is the entire impetus for the first film, so to have him alive after all implies he was not only living alone in the woods for 25 years or so, but that his mother was totally unaware he was still alive. (Was there any throwaway line in the first one like "they never found his body"?) Credit Part VI and beyond with this, at least they make him a full-on worm-food zombie, which explains his take a licking, keep on ticking invincibility.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 October 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link