"n'er cast a clout til May be out aka NO BREXIT: hell is other voters -- UK election 2017

McKenzie was out and about today doubling down on the same old criticism re Liverpudlians persecution complex and blaming them instead of his own employers who definitely did not operate any sort of process where a barely-coded racist insult of a footballer in an opinion column couldn't have been deleted before printing.

yes trevor fkn phillips has been giving him cover re persecution complex

Nuttall quoted Phillips about six times in the last interview I saw with him.

the thing about milifandom is that there are teenage girls who think dzhokhar tsarnaev and james holmes the aurora shooter are dreamy so liking a centrist labour politician who may about to become pm is quite a bit more understandable

i can see why nuttall and mackenzie -- both racists after all -- assume that support from this quater does actually somehow absolve them, and that this issue will fade away… but i really don't think it will (and it won't do phillips much good either)

"Theresa May is not a people-person, she interacts very badly with the public and tends to detach herself from them as soon as the cameras are turned off."

Imagine the Conservative Party electing as leader someone like that, a woman too, and expecting them to win an election... oh hold on...

just read an otm comment earlier about how amusing the disparity is between the reality of TM's content-free listless poise + very Kim Jong Un style forays into empty looking warehouses with some happy/bored greetees in Derbyshire and the the fawning AUDACIOUS MAY PARKS TANK IN LABOUR HEARTLANDS type headlines that followed. Another 6 weeks of this and even the BBC might start turning on her.

They didn't even have to elect her this time xp

do you think she's much like thatcher though, tom, except quite superficially? i'm not sure i do

She's a space alien, so in that sense she's like Thatcher.

Actually, that is unfair on her, she's nowhere near as weird as Thatcher.

The major difference I can see between Thatcher and the post-2010 brigade, is that they have not even attempted to buy off any part of the electorate. Thatcher laced her economic terrorism with right-to-buy bonanzas, but austerity hasn't come with any bribes. I guess the royal mail selloff was an attempt to rerun this, but it didn't really pan out.

"but austerity hasn't come with any bribes"

that is what I don't get - she has made so many working people noticeably poorer, and then has the audacity to feign being on their side. But according to the latest YouGov poll lots of the people she has fucked over actually like her.

Old Spitting Image clip doing a bit of a round the other day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1l1XGiXgo0

I was thinking earlier that May would be a gift to Spitting Image.

ugh i hate spitting image worse than the tories and hignfy combined tbh

I thought it was ace at the time, never re-watched it since like.

Apparently that clip is from 91 but I didn't think they made Major entirely grey until a bit later. It's pretty weak as a sketch though was just surprised at the audacity of the writers risking the perception of calling the viewers stupid (as opposed to the politicians) in the process.

Not a great a sketch, because it can't decide whether it is taking the piss out of Tory voting Pimlico Plumbing type wealth creators or the working class Tory voters.

it was always totally tin-eared about class (and women)

(in brackets bcz not strictly relevant to this skit -- but actually the aspect that enraged me most)

Meanwhile, his sister Rachel has announced she has defected to the Liberal Democrats to stop a hard Brexit, telling a "moving" tale of how her 19 year old son Oliver cried on the morning after the referendum and said, “Boris has stolen our futures.”

I'm sure the thou doth protest too much BJ nephew will get this detail deleted from the internet at some later point, but can imagine him played by the young Charlie Boorman in Excalibur for a dramatised version of this moment.

Nuttall now standing in Boston & Skegness (CON HOLD) after failing to identify a winnable Labour seat.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-aR-7DWAAEPLm8.jpg:large

JC's excellent first week continues

praise from cesare borgia

Barwell was just sounding weak as piss on the housing crisis and trying to argue that the building of 500000 new council houses would somehow exacerbate the problem. It takes some fucked up Tory rong-thought to come up with that conclusion, but most of the PLP wouldn't probably argue with more "affordable housing" being the answer.

the LibDems are campaigning on building more social housing as well, the uncompromising stance the Tories are taking on this would be hard to defend in a debate.

debates are for the feeble

I'm gonna end up saying this every week until it happens but Blair expelled from the party has to happen

Labour need to make people realise that in fact the Tory party and Theresa May, well sort of hate most of the people in this country.

the problem is that most of the voters in this country seem to hate most of the people in this country. eg that sociopathic "poor people shouldn't have children" tweet Matt posted - sadly I just don't think that would be even close to a dealbreaker for the electorate. most of them probably agree.

I'm wondering if this is a specifically English/British trait because you're very right lex, the little lord of the manor "my family and bollocks to everybody else" mentality feels like it runs thru the history of Englishness, you could write a great book about it, but am I just sulking about a world-view that's more or less universal?

TM seems quite confident that she can actually make the working poor poorer and deflect all their anger onto "benefits scum" rather than Tory tax credit cuts they ought to be pissed off about. But of course some working people don't like to admit their shit wages were ever being propped by benefits. I think the basic need to feel superior about others and complete indifference to others problems is a probably a universal thing, history is littered with evidence to support this imo

am I just sulking about a world-view that's more or less universal?

why be cynical about your fellow countryfolk when you can be cynical about the whole hunan race?

there's a reason I'm Alright Jack was given that title and it nails a similar vibe in 1959

I have the feeling that this is the sort of stuff that works and works and works with the electorate until suddenly it doesn't and then yr authority pretty much evaporates overnight.

Re: Blair, it's very noticeable that Gordon Brown, who wasn't a good PM at all, has had the good sense to keep his mouth shut for the time being.

there's fascinating stuff about the suppressed history of the Blitz and the amount of opportunist burgling that went on while people were hiding in the air raid shelters. Dickens and Fielding full of scumbags, Pecksniff or Blifil feel like great universal Brits and I hate the idea of universals, fucking Polonius man, the archetypal stolid business Brit

IT TAKES A NATION OF SHOPKEEPERS TO HOLD US BACK

I dont think its specifically English and I think its more than fuck everyone else, its cathartic nihilsm. Cut your own head off to spite the rest of your body who cares. Anger as addiction

I have the feeling that this is the sort of stuff that works and works and works with the electorate until suddenly it doesn't and then yr authority pretty much evaporates overnight.

see 79-97 tory government. They certainly weren't worse in the last five years than previously, but all of a sudden they can't buy a vote. Perhaps the 'not being worse' was a factor in them losing the uncritical support of fascist newspaper barons, idk

last five years, ie lingering death of Major government

xxxp Polonius Danish tho

lol

I like the idea of an amoral, feckless spiv, lothario type who is profiteering from the blitz and the wartime black market as a fictional theme because it is an antidote to the overrated Band of Brothers type shite (see Nolan's next bullshit movie). But don't want the British electorate to vote with that mentality.

according to my dad during WWII my granddad was working a reserved occupation - skilled engineer and all that, tho I'm not sure how old he would have been anyway - and as conscription kicked in the factory took on a bunch of spivs who'd evaded the draft, proper Private Walker types. one day my granddad mentioned to one of these guys that the thing he missed most under rationing was a bit of cheese. so he comes in on Monday morning and opens his locker and there's the biggest wheel of cheddar he's ever seen in his life, and this lad giving him a wink and a tap on the side of his nose. my granddad told him in v Anglo-Saxon terms to get rid of it quick cos he thought he'd end up in jail.

Recommend "Caught" by Henry Green, written at the time of the Blitz, which offhandedly crams the bravery and heroism stuff into the last three pages, the rest of the book taken up with desultory shagging, bitching and arsing about.

desultory shagging, bitching and arsing about

new board title

Yeah I was thinking about Caught as well, although that was written during the war so before the whole commonly-accepted WWII narrative had even been written. General impression you get is that everyone thinks it's a pain in the arse.

Margaret Thatcher's dad was one such spiv!

My best friend's dad, who was a medic in three different hospitals during WWll, was always very quick to point out false spin from the war - his most memorable story was that the Royal Family were NOT cheered in the streets of the East End. They were booed with force.

brown will intervene in scotland. he can't help himself

though maybe not this time because the situation is so dire for slab

Brown Labour would be les mots justes