there is plenty of "fuck you" to go around, evol j
kiss my entire black ass
― a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
Lunch, I'm no lawyer, but I would honestly like to hope that 12 jurors taxed with deliberating whether someone commited a single crime after days of evidence and arguments aren't sitting around litigating Cosby Show episodes
― Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link
there's probably one juror who's all "hey, remember that one with Stevie Wonder..." while everyone else rolls their eyes and says stfu
(speaking mostly from my experience on juries tbh)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
Yeah it's always one asshole
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
http://www.gablescinema.com/media/filmassets/slides/12_angry_men_5.png
"It was like... 'Jammin on the one. Jammin on the one'"
― Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link
to be fair most of the people defending him and calling the women liars are the "Bill Cosby would never do that" crowd, wouldn't be surprising if there was one such guy person the jury
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
Usually they ask you pretty much point-black if you have a bias
― Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link
point-blank, lol
― Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
those questions generally seem to get answered according to how much the person does/does not want to serve on the jury
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 June 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
Mistrial.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 June 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link
our legal system is broken
― sleeve, Saturday, 17 June 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link
it's mostly that jurors don't know wtf "reasonable doubt" is anymore thanks to CSI effect and other bullshit phenomena.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 June 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link
A jury has found Bill Cosby guilty of drugging and sexually assaulting Andrea Constand in his suburban Pennsylvania home in 2004. The jury handed down the guilty verdict on all three counts of indecent aggravated assault after more than 12 hours of deliberation, following a retrial that lasted more than two weeks.Cosby’s conviction concludes an acrimonious case that played out in the courtroom and in the press. In 2014 and 2015, dozens of women came forward with allegations that the comedian had drugged and sexually abused them. The statute of limitations had long since expired in almost all of those cases.
Cosby’s conviction concludes an acrimonious case that played out in the courtroom and in the press. In 2014 and 2015, dozens of women came forward with allegations that the comedian had drugged and sexually abused them. The statute of limitations had long since expired in almost all of those cases.
https://www.vox.com/2018/4/26/17272470/bill-cosby-trial-verdict-guilty-sexual-assault-andrea-constand
― Simon H., Thursday, 26 April 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link
pretty obviously the correct verdict, but nothing about the situation prompts me to feel like cheering. sad, yes. heartened, no.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link
a lot better than the alternative
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
i'm heartened in the sense that people who think they can get away with this shit because of their cultural status should feel a little less secure. I hope it's not a blip but more of a trend going forward.
― omar little, Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link
part of the whole Weinstein/Ratner/Spacey/etc trend, and so on.
― omar little, Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link
BILL COSBY GUILTY!!!!
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
Bye bye, fucker
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link
nothing about the situation prompts me to feel like cheering. sad, yes. heartened, no.
this?
Incredible scenes as women run weeping from the courtroom immediately after Cosby is found GUITLY, and tearfully embrace one another. pic.twitter.com/5GWThXycx9— David Mack (@davidmackau) April 26, 2018
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 26 April 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link
guit.ly
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 April 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link
i feel pretty heartened by this
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 26 April 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link
Bill Cosby's publicist seems to be saying here that Cosby will die and then be resurrected and go on to become the basis for a worldwide religion pic.twitter.com/5kLAaszFMu— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) September 25, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link
Well shit.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/arts/television/bill-cosby-release-conviction.html
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link
sounds like the prosecution really fucked up this one
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link
Yeah this thread spells it out on that front:
This is the key finding of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania that explains its reversal of the Cosby decision: the prior DA promised non-prosecution to force Cosby to waive his Fifth Amendment privilege and testify in a civil case, he did, then they prosecuted him with it. pic.twitter.com/TUT17IMOAr— SuspendedHat (@Popehat) June 30, 2021
The decision never says Cosby isn't guilty of what he did.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link
Yeah. And it's hard to know if they could have gotten a conviction without the incriminating statements in the depositions, which he only gave because of the prior prosecutor's assurances. It's a legal mess.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
that seems like.... unfortunately....the correct ruling
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link
Right ruling but fuck, the damage this is going to do to the poor victims.
― not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link
Hopefully they still feel the validation of the conviction, even if the fucker's out of jail.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
American institutions approaching soviet levels of incompetence
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link
The original guilty verdict was correct. This decision doesn’t dispute that.
― treeship., Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link
Well, yeah. But that doesn't mean this still isn't going to be spun as a "victory" for Cosby. I mean, see Phylicia Rashad's tweet already.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link
It doesn’t mean the courts are incompetent. There was an error made by the original prosecutor (castor) in granting immunity, and that opened the door to this successful appeal. In the soviet union, the legal system was not characterized by an excess of due process considerations. Quite the reverse.
― treeship., Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:42 (two years ago) link
I imagine Rashad’s tweet is self serving. Her legacy is tied to his.
― treeship., Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:43 (two years ago) link
Monique Judge had a few things to say about that tweet
So in this instance, kids, your favorite TV mom is loud and wrong. There was no miscarriage of justice, and Cosby is being released on a technicality. I will explain it all in this thread. https://t.co/K9HtjpLC1Y— Titty Roux (@thejournalista) June 30, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link
Could the court try him again, but not use any of Cosby's statements as evidence? This would be similar to what would have happened had they never given him the deal for the civil case, wouldn't it?
― nickn, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link
I think that would be double jeopardy
― treeship., Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link
it can't, the issue wasn't the use of his statements as evidence but the original promise not to prosecute him which he relied on by testifying in the civil case
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:51 (two years ago) link
not a double jeopardy issue at all. treeship is now disbarred.
Can i still practice board lawyering?
― treeship., Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link
no you are disbarred
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link
disbarred = when you are 86'ed from an establishment
you can go to dis bar, but not dat bar
― not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link
Double jeopardy is based on the legal principle that, if your husband fakes his death and you are framed for his murder and then begins a secret life with your son and ex-best friend, you have the legal right to get out of prison, conduct an investigation to find your husband and then actually kill him without going to prison a second time for his murder
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link
Been there brother
― treeship., Wednesday, 30 June 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link
lmao when that movie came out I saw so many hilarious internet arguments about their rong-interpretation of DJ
― not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link
IIRC the internet was not especially active in 1955.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Jeopardy_%281999_film%29?wprov=sfla1
― not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link
(1955 film doesn't follow that plot at all. Boo...yah.)
― not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link
I only watch Ashley Judd movies so I wouldn't know
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link