i figured he left the gold so that those that found them would find gold in dead soldier's pockets and assume death by corrupt misadventure (which it kind of was i guess)
― Karl Malone, Monday, 14 August 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link
robbery, corrupt guards, corpses with fermented crab on the lips and tongue = expensive but effective cover
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 14 August 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
plus maybe they assumed that *tough guy voice*where they're going, they won't need it
― Karl Malone, Monday, 14 August 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link
as i mentioned last night, i'm really excited for this crew heading north of the wall, but frightened for them in a way that i haven't been since the first few seasons. it seems like there's no way they're all coming back alive. if i had to guess, jorah is going down, and maybe beric or thoros too.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 14 August 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link
I'm feeling like you're right but perhaps either Jorah or the Hound will become the very wight they need to show Cersei...
And everyone is flipping out about the possibility of undead hound vs. frankenmountain in that scenario but it feels like there would be more story impact to have the hound character actually able to react to the sight of the mountain as a monster. Two characters that have a significant tension and history finally meeting in battle is only cheap thrills if they're BOTH undead zombies...
― Evan, Monday, 14 August 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
not sure Jorah's gonna get sonned by some wight at least not right away, they showed seems to have some investment in his return to full health that isn't centered solely around this adventure.
― nomar, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link
True. Too often people expect "random" deaths of important characters without realizing that every shocking death so far has been to advance the story in an interesting way. Agree that Jorah (and Gendry) wouldn't make much sense dying after the story went out of its way to bring them back into the picture so recently.
― Evan, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link
every shocking death so far has been to advance the story in an interesting way.
i'm not sure this is true
― Karl Malone, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link
gendry becomes a wight and the king of westeros by default. white walkers take over westeros on a technicality
― 龜, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link
i had some notion about Jorah being immune to the white walkers bc of greyscale but idk.
― nomar, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
― Karl Malone, Monday, August 14, 2017 12:18 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Proportionate to their role of course but still in regards to the characters we were talking about, they've just reentered the story seemingly for some reason important to the plot and their particular relation to it.
― Evan, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link
yeah, i'm probably wrong about jorah, it's just a hunch. there was something about the way that he looked back at Daenery as they pushed the boat out into the sea, while jon snow did not, that made it seem like the last time.
i also mentioned beric and thoros as candidate for death, though, and neither one of them has exactly been absent. they've both hovered around the peripheries of the show since the beginning.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link
i could see beric/thoros becoming a wight as sort of a repudiation of melisandre and the red whatever religion
― 龜, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link
i guess the only thing is the show's complexity and maze of back channels intrigue is completely gone at this point. like everything leading up to the red wedding was all there to see, if you were looking for it. but it was weaved into the story so effortlessly that you didn't see it coming. S3 reminded me of that theory on that one blog about the end of the Sopranos and everything that led up to it, how there were clues there if you were looking for them. GoT at that juncture was operating at a really high level, but now that Weiss and Benioff are past the books they don't have the same chops. but i think they have figured out how to get this thing moving again, make it really entertaining and consistently visually interesting, and bring it to the end.
― nomar, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link
Yeah, Jorah becoming a good wight because of grayscale would make sense, and would also kinda legitimize a whole bunch of book threads.
― Frederik B, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link
Jorah's really shaking a lot of hands and doing a lot of hugging and kissing for a guy who's like a couple weeks out of greyscale quarantine tbh
― nomar, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link
i was gonna say!
― 龜, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link
Beric seems like a goner because the show/books have a knack of killing off the old version of something once there's a new replacement around (3 Eyed Raven, King after King, Night's Watch Commander, etc.) and the Hound seems like he's got the Lord of Light's favor now.
― President Keyes, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link
This is where Lady Stoneheart is going in the books, isn't it?
― Frederik B, Monday, 14 August 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
shoutout to netw3rk predicting drogon and jon snow
If (and i really want this to happen) one of Dany’s dragons “sniffs out” Jon’s Targaryen lineage, it would be another of the show’s dragon-centric retcons, along with Dany being invulnerable to fire, being able to call Drogon with her mind, and a full-grown dragon’s scales being susceptible to Qyburn’s Big Crossbow.
― 龜, Monday, 14 August 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link
i also liked all the smashed pumpkins? squash? in the background of the wreckage as tyrion walked through the burnt fields in the beginning. will famine become a plot point though?
― 龜, Monday, 14 August 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
pretty sure.. winter is coming(tm) and sansa has been struggling with getting food storage set up in winterfell.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 14 August 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
Tyrion's reaction to the carnage and the execution of the Tarleys really shows his evolution as a character considering the stunt he pulled at the Battle of the Blackwater. And he had the sense to look properly ashamed when Davos reminded him.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Monday, 14 August 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
The Hound's survival revolves mostly around making it back to the meeting with Cersei and seeing what's become of his brother next to her for the first time (whether or not they ever actually fight they will surely meet again). Stoked for that as much as anything.
― nashwan, Monday, 14 August 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
I think if we're getting Gendry rowing jokes, then we're definitely getting a Hound/Mountain fan service-off.
― President Keyes, Monday, 14 August 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
Davos to break the ice by noting how half the people at the meeting have died once already.
― nashwan, Monday, 14 August 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
I v much hope The Actor Kevin Eldon was playing the same character who was Ned in the play but for whatever reason ditched that to join the Goldcloaks.
― nashwan, Monday, August 14, 2017 2:10 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes - his full name is Ned Stark (!), and the shit is likely to hit the fan pretty hard when Davos realises they've murdered him because he was a v important character in season 1
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 14 August 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
Ser Horatio of House Caine will get to the bottom of this, you can be certain. Sunglasses, exit stage left, YAAAAAAAOOOOWWW
― As an ilxor, I am uncompromising (El Tomboto), Monday, 14 August 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
also was anyone else shouting at the screen because davos didn't take back the gold he had given to the goldcloaks after gendry walloped them
That was completely in character. People who survived growing up in Flea Bottom, like Davos and Gendry, learned a long time ago that coin isn't worth shit unless it can save your skin or buy you a meal. That gold was in neither category.
― As an ilxor, I am uncompromising (El Tomboto), Monday, 14 August 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
Sam was too busy ranting to notice something that probably would have saved a lot of lives, right?
― Matt DC, Monday, 14 August 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link
arya has become so loathsome, I hope baelish kills her
― ogmor, Monday, 14 August 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link
Confused why they're risking Gendry on this stupid capture-a-zombie mission when he's seriously needed forging dragonglass into weapons
― sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 14 August 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
Loved all the getting the gang back together stuff in this episode but whatever Littlefinger is up to with Arya is easily the most intriguing. Am I right in thinking that everyone going North of the Wall has had some kind of death based or supernatural experience except the ginger Wildling dude?
― Matt DC, Monday, 14 August 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
Confused why they're risking Gendry on this stupid capture-a-zombie mission when he's seriously needed forging dragonglass into weapons― sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, August 14, 2017 9:40 PM (forty-four seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, August 14, 2017 9:40 PM (forty-four seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
at least they would maybe bring some of these with them? since they're, you know, going to fight white walkers?
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 14 August 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link
I want to see gendry play don't break the ice out there
― Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 August 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link
i kinda thought it would have been clever to have the guards satisfied by the fermented crab & walk off before tyrion came by, because we were all *expecting* it to end in violence ... that the scene ended w/ their faces smashed in was kind of more predictable/cliche than if they'd managed a clean escape imo
a minor criticism but i think the show could do to keep things more unpredictable
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 14 August 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link
I enjoyed the slow development from "please hammer don't hurt 'em" into "It's All Good" into "here comes the hammer"
― Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 August 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
― sansa riff (sarahell), 14. august 2017 23:40 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
They can probably spare the half hour it takes to get past the wall and back.
― Frederik B, Monday, 14 August 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link
i'm sure it'll be fun to watch but this capture mission is indeed stupid, like a fabricated red herring to pass another episode.
the whole jon/dragon scene was p funny. i guess it wasn't intentional but when dany said, all proud and beaming "i consider them my children" and jon snow just did this look that was like "eh, okay, moving on..."
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 14 August 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link
everyone has those weird cousins...
― Number None, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link
even if they bring back one zombie i'm not sure that'd illustrate the gravity of the situation
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 14 August 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link
Why doesn't Dany just hop on a dragon and pop over the wall for a quick look-see? Seems like it couldn't take more than a few hours...
― DJI, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link
The ravens made the trip from winterfell in a few minutes, after all.
― stet, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link
"I actually already own one. It's like eight feet tall. Super fuckin useful."
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 14 August 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link
it'd be good if they fail and one of them has to dress up as a wight, ideally with a sheet that has eyeholes in it
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 14 August 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link
This has to further the plot somehow other than it being a really stupid idea
― sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 14 August 2017 22:58 (six years ago) link
I remain baffled as to how they will grab one and do a runner, given what happened at Hardhome.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 14 August 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, August 14, 2017
https://i.memecaptain.com/gend_images/08XuZQ.jpg
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 14 August 2017 23:59 (six years ago) link
so, Cersei's supposed pregnancy. Lying, or gonna miscarry? She isnt bringing anything to term - the prophecy said she'd have 3 kids and theyd die and thats already happened.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link
Did the prophecy say she'd only have 3 kids? I can't remember.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 00:09 (six years ago) link