The Daily Show with Trevor Noah

Oliver's show was OK when he had a strict no-Trump rule and became insufferable around the time he made it at least half the show every night

I keep meaning to check out Desus and Mero.

Their Bodega Boys podcast is even better.

Trump himself is just so beyond satire at this point.

So many of these shows rely on showing you clips of Trump speaking, and I can't stand to watch Trump speak.

I also think Sam Bee's show is more positive, partly because it's not all jokes aimed at men, and partly because she often uses her show to remind people that it's important to vote in the midterms and in local elections, because that's where a lot of the really crazy shit happens.

I liked the long form piece Oliver did about infrastructure. The "Drumpf" segment itself wasn't particularly bad until the "let's meme this"

Oliver's show was OK when he had a strict no-Trump rule and became insufferable around the time he made it at least half the show every night

eh I actually believe him when he says he'd rather talk about anything else, but how do you skirt around this stuff anymore? the entire stupid planet now revolves around this idiot.

I think a lot of them see their relevance and cultural cache slipping away and they're smearing the left in panic.

xxp i disagree, Drumpf segment was so obnoxious, that gigantic sign and the balloons and the dancing. it was fucking dumb to begin with. people calling Trump "Drumpf" without any irony for months afterward was also horrible

John Oliver is still good because who else is gonna make a 20 minute segment about HerbalLife scams or poor 911 response times or the predatory bail bonds industry.

Honestly, his dick jokes that interrupt the research vary between mildly amusing and actively distracting. They're probably necessary if I'm gonna get through a 25 minute news magazine piece on kidney dialysis

but how do you skirt around this stuff anymore?

focus on extremely specific/local issues or legislative stuff. i.e. half an hour just on healthcare, or universal basic income, or reemergence of neo-Nazis. but the format makes that kind of depth impossible

and yeah Oliver is better at that than others bc he's on HBO, but his tone/delivery... i just can't get with it

Xpost Yeah that was the bad end of the segment I was referring to.

I like Oliver a lot. He tends to get the Trump stuff over as fast as possible at the start of the show, beginning before the studio applause even dies down. Most of his shows go as deep into specific esoteric subjects as 60 Minutes. Like his bit on the dialysis industry? Who else would have done that?

thought exposing Alex Jones not as a lunatic crackpot conspiracy goon but rather a somewhat savvy peddler of overpriced placebos was pretty good. I legitimately did not know his show was 4 hours long, nor that half of it was dedicated to selling $88 bottles of Male Vitality Vitamins

Like his bit on the dialysis industry? Who else would have done that?

be real, you can't chuck an iphone without hitting an outrage peddler ready to do an impassioned monologue on whatever was on huffpo the night before

actually I haven't watched in forever and forgot about the Oliver investigative reports those are good, I remember one in particular about how people end up in jail because of escalating fines over parking and minor traffic tickets that was just infuriating

sleepingbag your neighborhood sounds awful, you should consider moving to the suburbs with carpet kaiser

I never watch any of these anymore, but yeah, i did dig when Oliver's show would do the investigative bits others didn't have the prep time to cover.

did he actually stop doing those? i still see them pop up on youtube

oliver's investigative reports are great but this guy/his writers have a serious animal joke obsession. Every episode is packed with terrible animal jokes

(you can just say Bernie bro, bro)

I am going to choose to assume that you don't know I'm black and therefore didn't mean to throw a random " to" at a black man as he is talking about his perception of racism, handily proving his point.

as far as I can tell that's the first and only post "sovereignty flight" has ever made - so I'll just say try even harder next time, jackass, or we'll bring back gabbneb to take you to school

Oliver kinda had the same trajectory as Ricky Gervais: "oh, this guy is pretty funny" 4 years later "this guy is completely insufferable"

When do you start counting from? Gervais was doing unfunny, bullying character comedy for years before Stephen Merchant wrote 12 good episodes of TV with him, and he promptly carried on doing unfunny, bullying comedy as both himself and as characters

Oliver was funny as a stand-up, funny on bits I saw of the Daily Show, funny on the Bugle every week, and is still pretty funny with writers on his own show, even if the world's so fucked that it can be exhausting

i'm American and i wasn't exposed to them pre-Office or pre-Daily Show. Oliver is obviously better, & while i never watch his show i do appreciate that he does very specific segments. but he will always be responsible... for Drumpf

The only late night comedy I show I can stomach in the Trump era or that feels relevant is Desus & Mero.

― Chris L, Friday, September 1, 2017 1:57 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This show is deathly unfunny imo, and desus used to be twitter's most hilarious dude. I wish he'd get a high paying writer job. Partly vice is to blame because I'm pretty sure this is the only show in this lane without a writer's room, cuz I guess the guys are just "naturally" funny 🤔 Or maybe that helps vice save money

Stewart through 2008 was a lot like the funniest Chapo (reading series, Dear Prudie) - reacting to absurdity in what felt like an offhand manner, letting the crazy speak for itself in a lot of ways.

I don't know if he ever got into Epic Takedown territory and should be blamed for the Bee/Oliver-universe, I pretty much tuned the show out when he got overly serious about his role and the bullshit Rally To Restore Sanity.

when Noah said criticizing Obama for making million-dollar ex-POTUS Wall St speeches was racist, I concluded he can shove his pinhead up his ass (it would fit).

I didn't realise "Drumpf" was anything more than a silly nickname.

I've stopped watching Samantha Bee as regularly as I used to, but she's significantly better than Noah, mostly because it feels like she has an actual dog in the fight, and because she gravitates to female oriented issues that the rest of late night ignores (I wonder why...). At her best, she has a seething anger that adds real bile to her punchlines.

She's also done a few good deep dives, like in the history of the religious right and on crazy congressmen like Louis Gohmert

I thought the problem with Bee was you can't watch her with regularity because she doesn't seem to have a reguklarity to watch her with. Is she off at the moment until the 13th of September?
& is Oliver off for a couple of weeks o0r was he back last week?

_I think John Oliver really killed the golden goose of comics at desk spitting truth tbh

That and yeah, trump winning_

I think... it's a bad format

Kinda kicking myself for not busting out "what a disaster for the golden goose of comics at death spitting truth" tbh

lol autocorrect otm?

death spits truth at us all

i love full frontal and idk why bc i find the rest of these shows tiresome. (the desklessness of it still feels awkward to me but i've adjusted.) oliver's deep dives are ok but the jokes with which he interrupts them relentlessly are exaggerated just enough that they cross over into unfunny pretty much immediately

love shows with desks

Full Frontal is very good for what it is, I just have no patience for angry american liberals these days

Me too, can't stand 'em. That's why I hang out on ILX.

Desks guys desks

xp lol

i still love Bee, even if her enthusiasm/super-bitchery can be over the top i'd rather see it in that direction than what we generally get with Noah

lmao tombot

yeah Bee is still the best

lmao

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The bits of Trevor Noah's Daily Show that I've seen have been exactly like the bits of Jon Stewart's Daily Show that made me tired of watching the whole thing and bail three years before Stewart quit, so I have a very hard time buying at face-value all of the left-leaning people who suddenly decided these jokes were unfunny when a black South African was telling them rather than a white Jew.

― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, September 1, 2017 2:27 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not going to deny that outspoken lefties can be hueg racists but this is such a disingenuous post considering when Jon Stewart CAME to the job in 1999 he already had years of experience being a comedy writer, cable talk show host and New York Times bestselling author.

When Trevor Noah came to the job he

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And, on top of that, Larry Wilmore's show was pretty much the same Daily Show schtick and it WAS funny!

Yeah but Larry's show itself was kind of a drag

on second thought maybe "disingenuous" isn't the right word but RONG is in the running

I watched and enjoyed The Daily Show when Jon Stewart took over. As it went on and people began to take it more and more seriously, it became more and more of a drag and I tapped out sometime around 2012. I checked in sporadically in the last 3 years and it still sucked. I checked in when Noah took over and it still sucked in pretty much the same way it had been for Stewart's last few years. It is not disingenuous to have this opinion, neither is it disingenuous to notice that ALL OF A SUDDEN a certain segment of Daily Show viewers had a big problem with the show's format when a black South African was doing it.

I mean, maybe I missed Trevor's "The Daily Show: LOL Chris Brown Beat Rihanna" special

I will say that it doesn't help that Noah's run does coincide with lefty twitter's rise

or that he doesn't have "was Funny as Daily Show host from 1999-2012" on his resume

i enjoyed the daily show in the 90s/early 2000s when i was a teenager. it was and is an awful lot of toothless, self-congratulatory, smug, liberal pabulum.