The whole foods fella gave me the bottle he was saving for himself
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link
Found a bottle of CBS in Pasadena yesterday, at the WF. Wasn't even looking, was there for wine and wandered into the beer aisle as is my custom.
― omar little, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link
Oh I guess I should be on the lookout
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link
lol beer menus has all the places by me charging $40! Fuck that, I'm good
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link
I don't think CBS will ever be as good as the bottle I had back in 2011. Back then, it was one of the best beers I've ever had. When I had it on draft a few years ago, just didn't hit me in the same way. I'll pick up my one bottle of this batch next week to find out.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 11:20 (six years ago) link
And after that, I'm done with big beer purchases for the year. November/December are rough on the wallet.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 11:23 (six years ago) link
I don't think CBS will ever be as good as the bottle I had back in 2011. Back then, it was one of the best beers I've ever had. When I had it on draft a few years ago, just didn't hit me in the same way. I'll pick up my one bottle of this batch next week to find out.― Jeff, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 3:20 AM (five hours ago)
― Jeff, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 3:20 AM (five hours ago)
I had the opportunity to try 2014 CBS a couple years ago and I was equally non-plussed. And while this new batch is better... the reality is the needle has moved: 6 years ago KBS and CBS were some of the most highest rated (and hyped) beers on the planet. These days, this solid, fine beers sit on shelves in big box stores for weeks if not months.
Similar story: when I stopped by a store on Black Friday to pick up Bourbon County Variants (Coffee, NorthWoods) this year, the purveyor still had 2016 regular BCBS available. I asked him if he put them out specifically for black friday, he replied that he simply hadn't sold through his allocations from last year.
What a time to be alive?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
is it that beer nerdism peaked a couple years ago ?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
I miss the days when there was less beer hype, or at least it wasn't in my face all the time, and I could drop in somewhere and be offered something new on tap and it'd be really great and unexpected. Then I'd find out a few months later that beer nerds were traveling across the state to hoard bottles or whatever.
My local bar had a couple Toppling Goliath kegs before they started mass producing, might have been the last time that really happened.
― mh, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
imo the nerdism is full bore now, it's just that everyone who likes beer is a casual beer nerd and there's just a lot of good beer
I'm also nostalgic for the days when there were only a couple brewery/restaurant places around, before every place had a "tap room" instead of having to be a restaurant too, and most of them were pretty mediocre to bad. I remember thinking Rock Bottom (lol) was the best beer/restaurant place, but that was a quick couple years
― mh, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link
im willing to bet that the guy who bought the entire cbs stock was doing it to resell
diff types of beers ("craft beers") are just way more widely marketed now with so many to choose from that the market for it has increased dramatically
people see an increase in demand and some try to game it to get extra cash (see scalpers)
i rarely see places that sell proper craft beers anymore. theyre mostly big name breweries, unless its something super local and these tend to be really bad to decent for the most part
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
yeah i think you're right there are just so many good beers out there and the disparity between a good beer and a really great beer is maybe not as wide as it used to be.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link
in L.A. if i want to find something i haven't seen before i have to go to Southland Beer on Western or maybe (but less so these days) Sunset Beer.
― omar little, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
but it's true that a lot of those local craft brewers aren't particularly great
― omar little, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
i'm still a bit embarrassed that Golden Road is the brewer that seems to still be the Goose Island of L.A.
― omar little, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link
ya sunset beer is getting worse every time i go there
also monkish in torrance is always soooo packed/overhyped its not even worth it anymore
zymurgy seems to be trying to do something different by allowing you to brew your own beer
wonder how thatll go
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
Then I'd find out a few months later that beer nerds were traveling across the state to hoard bottles or whatever.― mh, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 9:21 AM (eighteen minutes ago)
― mh, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 9:21 AM (eighteen minutes ago)
Yo I was in Decorah last January lol. I met people from Honolulu, Costa Rica, Seoul and Denmark at that release.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
beer tourism
jfc gtfo
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
i once transported a twelve pack of Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald across the country after an Xmas drive back to Chitown.
― omar little, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
beer tourism is like the #1 thing the state of vermont has going on nowadays
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link
No way I’d want to go back to the way it was. Even with its drawbacks, I prefer today’s world.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
re: cbs/bcbs fatigue imo it's a bunch of factors; those beers are def more at parity with others now than they were 5 years ago. also around here ppl care more and more about what is new and local, like without all day idk what kind of shelf presence founders would have and i don't know anyone who considers goose's regular rotation to be even credible. i think i've somewhat lost my taste for barrel aged stouts and i've talked to other people who feel similarly.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
the only beer tourism I appreciate is my friend from Dubuque crossing over the Wisconsin to bring me some New Glarus beer when I housesit over the holidays
― mh, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 1:49 PM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Heady Topper
― Evan, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link
― Jeff, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 1:50 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
definitely
― marcos, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link
i mean it's pretty easy to ignore the hype nonsense, there are plenty of excellent beers available all the time now w/o having to worry about being able to score something rare
― marcos, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
beer tourism is like the #1 thing the state of vermont has going on nowadays― call all destroyer, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 10:49 AM (one hour ago)
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 10:49 AM (one hour ago)
Maybe Brussels too.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link
No doubt increased production helped, but first year I've seen cases of BCBS sitting around in, will, years.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link
I have still yet to see this. But I don’t make it to a lot of jewels and my Mariano’s never even put any out on the floor.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link
Wonder if any of that has to do with last year's infection issue So?
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link
Argh that should just be "issues?"
That was 2015, IIRC. Last year was the first year they started flash pasteurizing.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link
how much is a bottle of bcbs
― marcos, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link
(i've never had it btw)
I paid $9, I think
― mh, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link
bevmo had dozens of bcbs bottles sitting around for at least a week, now they have at least a dozen
i have yet to see cbs bottles "sitting around"
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link
For regular, I’ve seen anywhere from 9 on up. Usually 10 to 12 at most big places. Mom and Pops can get cray cray though with their pricing.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link
I paid $12 at Bevmo (half liter). Kept behind the counter, 2-bottle max purchase.
― nickn, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link
They had three or four boxes/cases at my local whole foods today, just on the floor by the other beer.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 23:22 (six years ago) link
The beer buyer at my local WF said that every WF in the region got at least 2 cases of CBS and most stores still have them.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 7 December 2017 01:54 (six years ago) link
Stillwater's Cellar Door is mostly weird. On the one hand it's a decent saison, on the other it's trying to be a sour, I think? Too much sage. The cans are neat looking though
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 7 December 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link
I wish there was extra CBS around these parts, I'd just like to try it.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 7 December 2017 03:32 (six years ago) link
I have scored copious BBA beers from Insight and Bent Paddle lately though so the locals are coming thru.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 7 December 2017 03:33 (six years ago) link
I never really paid attention to any of the special Founders beers because I could never get them locally and didn’t care enough to have someone ship them to me. But I live an hour from the brewery now so I should probably look into this.
― joygoat, Thursday, 7 December 2017 04:48 (six years ago) link
sounds like supply/demand for it is uneven throughout the usa
― infinity (∞), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
founders regular stuff is all pretty good imo, i've never had the special stuff. founders porter is one of the best porters i've ever had except it has possibly the worst tagline of any beer (and why the fuck does a beer have a tagline anyways?!) - "dark, rich, and sexy" uhh no
― marcos, Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
xp I kind of think that one factor here (MN) is that alcohol can't be sold in regular grocery stores, so there's no "four cases gathering dust at Whole Foods" out there to find. Everything is at a liquor store, and there are fewer of those plus they tend to be pretty obsessively stocked/picked over in the city. When I lived in Chicago finding random treasures at grocery or corner stores was more common.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
one of the best things about chi town
might go early next year
― infinity (∞), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
xxp i've grown to find comfort in founder's kitschy graphic design and marketing. you are correct that it is all terrible, though.xp to joygoat: i buy the grand rapids beer hype but i am selling the grand rapids coney dog scene hype
― crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 7 December 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
re: cbs/bcbs fatigue imo it's a bunch of factors; those beers are def more at parity with others now than they were 5 years ago. also around here ppl care more and more about what is new and local, like without all day idk what kind of shelf presence founders would have and i don't know anyone who considers goose's regular rotation to be even credible. i think i've somewhat lost my taste for barrel aged stouts and i've talked to other people who feel similarly.― call all destroyer, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 10:52 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 10:52 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
founder's making backwoods bastard regular rotation seems to acknowledge this. too many barrel aged stouts. you need to put something else in the barrels and a scotch ale happens to be an even better thing that you can put in a bourbon barrel.
― crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 7 December 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link