a boob who leveraged his personal failings into a book deal, which seems to be a popular strategy nowadays
https://www.booksonboard.com/BoB_site_root/book_covers/300/6531.jpg
plus ça change...
― butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Locals joke that the only slimming down this town knows is liposuction
die
― indescribably adjustable dwarfism (Matt P), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link
miss u l.a., don't miss ny times articles about u
― indescribably adjustable dwarfism (Matt P), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link
just because people in other cities are ugly doesn't mean u have to take it out on los angeles, nytimes
― indescribably adjustable dwarfism (Matt P), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Here's basically what I think about this. I don't mean to seem like I care about material things, like social status. I just want four walls and adobe slabs for my girls.
― dulce est desipere in loco (Euler), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link
McArdle again:
At the end of his book's harrowing account of mortgage mistakes and credit card crises, Edmund Andrews writes: "While our misadventure had certainly been more extreme than those of many other Americans, our situation was not all that unusual." And indeed the book reads like the story of an American Everyman, easily sucked in to the alluring world of easy credit as he struggled to blend a new family. The terrifying implication is that it could happen to you--to anyone who leads with their heart and not their head.But en route to that moral, it turns out the story has been tidied up a little. Patty Barreiro, Andrews' wife, has declared bankruptcy twice. The second time was while they were married, a detail that didn't make it into either the book or the excerpt that ran in last Sunday's New York Times Magazine.
But en route to that moral, it turns out the story has been tidied up a little. Patty Barreiro, Andrews' wife, has declared bankruptcy twice. The second time was while they were married, a detail that didn't make it into either the book or the excerpt that ran in last Sunday's New York Times Magazine.
It continues from there.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 May 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
That seems to be a pretty big omission.
― Hatfail of Hollow (Nicole), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Whatever else you want to say about this guy, he was at least polite and diplomatic enough to be nice and vague about his situation, and not call his book Alimony for the Ex-Wife and Bankruptcy for the New One: I Blame Them and Should Have Been a Bachelor
― nabisco, Thursday, 21 May 2009 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
what i'm taking away from all this is that the financial crisis was exacerbated, if not caused by, dimbulbs and women
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 21 May 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
if not and perhaps even
Edwards responds and McArdle responds back.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 May 2009 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link
McArdle otm. "All that happened in 1998, and it obviously had nothing to do with the story in Busted. It never even occurred to me to mention it" doesn't pass my smell test, for what that's worth.
― resistance is feudal (WmC), Saturday, 23 May 2009 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Wowowow is she working hard to report this evenhanded. His roundabout response is pretty douchey (and evasive).
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 23 May 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link
er, evenhandedly
The more she presents about this all the more I'm kinda astounded.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 May 2009 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/08/nyregion/08trustafarians.html
― reo teabaggin (goole), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
williamsburg: full of entitled assholes!!
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link
i always used 'trustafarian' to refer to white kids with dreads and subsidized weed habits (nyu lol)
― roman knockwell (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link
"trust fund babies/bitches" works okay.
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link
actually a lot of that article rang kind of false to me--are there really a lot of people like this?
“They say, ‘You want me to work eight hours?’ ” Mr. Illades said. “There is a bubble bursting.”
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link
i just like to lol at all the landlord and developers who conspired to build like a dozen new condo buildings within two years, half of which have become abandoned construction.
― ian, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link
that sounds like an onion article
― casual racism fridays (bug), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Area Man LOLs at Developers
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link
biggest lol: "my parents have money and support me financially -- no one must know my secret shame"
gotta maintain that cred, right?
― roman knockwell (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
hardly a new phenomenon, I know, I just enjoy how the article lays it out there in this anthropological fashion -- "tribal custom dictates you don't talk about daddy's money"
― roman knockwell (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
obviously the stigma's not that bad if the NYT can get people on record about it.
― sussing out the Slick Hustler (I DIED), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
that or kids in williamsburg will say anything to get in the times
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link
the girl in the photo is auditioning for ... what? a mumblecore porno?
― would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
she's a playwright
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link
like that chick in... that one mumblecore film.
which fucking sucked.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link
'hannah takes the stairs'
kind of redundant writing 'thnat mumblecore film that sucked' amirite.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link
you tell me Mr. Mumblecore, I've never seen a Mumblecore movie.
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link
chick from article
http://www.freewilliamsburg.com/archives/2008/08/misha_calvert.html
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:59 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i saw it for ca$h
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link
okay Mr. Mumblecore
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link
if she were my offspring i'd cut her off too
― roman knockwell (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link
no daughter of mine steals colt .45
― roman knockwell (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
snape kills mumblecore?
― harbl, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
haha i knew i recognized that chicks name
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link
no wonder she was willing to talk to the nyt
u mean mumble
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm with Max, btw, in terms of reading this and finding it slightly hard to believe this type represents quite as high a percentage of the Williamsburg population as is suggested. (Getting sort of scoffy claims from third parties about this demographic's willingness to work real jobs also seems unconvincing to me, or anyway incomplete.) Maybe I'm just naive and Midwestern about these things, though.
I'm also trying to decide: if I had investments that provided me with $3-10k of income per month, would I be awesomely productive and fit? Hideously obese? Drug-addicted? Bored and aimless and depressed? Incredibly well-read? I do know one or two people who have the money to not-work and actually focus their time and accomplish cool things; I so don't trust that I'd have the personality to do that. I would probably watch loads of TV and be really depressed, and then occasionally spend a bunch of money on clothes to make myself feel better.
― nabisco, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link
she seems horrible obv, but 'misha calvert' is a really great name imo
― iatee, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link
"snape kills mumblecore?
― harbl, Tuesday, June 9, 2009 9:10 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink"
loooool
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link
well it seems like the article collapses a whole range of experiences, from "mom & dad help out a little with rent each month" which is like, who cares, all the way to "mom & dad set up a trust fund that means i dont ever have to work" which is like, infuriating but whatever--and im sure its possible that the latter kind would flip at the idea of having to work a regular job but the former it seems likely are already working fairly regular jobs (and are likely based on what i know about williamsburg and people my age also doing some kind of creative art/writing/designer wallpaper as well) and may now just have to get more hours or devote less time to their artisan ice cream making or whatever.
theres a germ of an interesting in that article somewhere, about how the unbelievable amount of cash in this city and the country as a whole has probably supported a much larger hipster "population" or "culture" in NYC than ever before--but i dont think parents and trust funds have as much to do with it as the sort of unbelievable number of "media"/"creative professional" jobs that were created (and have now been lost) over the last 10+ years that allowed people to sustain themselves doing sort of "artsy" things with and around other "artsy" people
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^good post
― autogucci cru (deej), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Posted by: hammond's organ | August 12, 2008 05:10 PM
I am sorry did the chk not clear that week from mommy and daddy... poor little misha and her hot pants. i hope you fall onto the L train tracks.
― josh fenderman (jeff), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I am sorry did the chk chk chk not clear
Yes, the all over aspect of the article was little annoying to me. I know plenty of responsible non-rich-kids who get some help from their parents with rent sometimes, or who have periods of living at home in between jobs, or because they prioritize paying back insane student loans with their small salaries over having their own places. Having a decent relationship with your family and being unable to buy into a real estate bubble that really just ended on entry level wages is sooooooo not the same as not working because of your trust fund.
That said, I also found it hard to believe the ridiculousness of some of those examples...but the world is full of odd situations, just because something sounds like a caricature doesn't mean it can't happen.
― Maria, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link
something that is getting lost in this discussion is that the brooklyn ale house makes amazing bloody marys
― kamerad, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link