bogus journey is really really really really crazy and really GOES FOR IT in a way few movies especially sequels would.
yeah it is flat out insane. the first movie had them time travelling around hanging out with historical figures, so how do they top that? any other time travelling franchise would just relocate their adventures. instead they kill them in the first half hour and have them traverse life and death and the supernatural space in between. they possess their parents, they haunt a seance, they quote Poison lyrics to God, they beat Death at Twister and later have him join their band, etc. just non stop insanity
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link
I'm so good with people doing the thing they got famous for in their youth when they are old. It's cool to see people old.
For some reason this immediately made me think of when I saw the 50-year-old Jesus and Mary Chain play and indeed they were great
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:55 (six years ago) link
one thing that’s kinda interesting to me about bill and ted is that i’d struggle to tell you much about what differentiates them from each other as characters but yet they don’t feel underwritten - they’re this kinda unique friendship gestalt where they’re so in sync that they’re essentially one character
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link
and that character’s name is WYLD STALLIONS*air guitar*
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link
indeed a big part of the appeal is the two leads, their chemistry. it is a pair of best friends, a bromance for the ages. they talk about this in the Totally Non Bogus Disc interviews, how when they casted the first one they saw the actors in line at a fast food place and thought "These people should be Bill & Ted" because they just looked like two Cali best friends hanging out together. it is a very cute & wholesome relationship that avoids being twee even with Keanu tilting his moppey head like a puppy. this friendship is super important, it anchors the films while the most insane shit - time travel, life and death - is going on around them.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 May 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link
i’d struggle to tell you much about what differentiates them from each other as characters
Well, Ted did take Bill's stepmom Missy to prom . . .
― Westworld more like Worstworld right? (Phil D.), Friday, 11 May 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link
Bill is the "smart" one, Ted is the gregarious one. I think.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 11 May 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link
Step Brothers had a pretty similar vibe. it didn't really register how strange that was until a while after
― frogbs, Friday, 11 May 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link
in theory a B&T III could be great. I'm just kind of jaded by all the terrible fan service reboots that are out there right now though and it's hard for me to believe this will possess any of the creative spirit that made Bogus Journey a genuinely good sequel.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 11 May 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link
Like I can already picture this:
Bad guy: Use the Slipknot on them.B&T: Excellent!Bad guy: Hang them.B&T Bogus!
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 11 May 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
However if they have a So-crates-like encounter with Karl Marx that would redeem it for me
Freaked is great and I'm happy to hijack this thread in the service of reemphasizing that point.
Alex Winter talked about Bill & Ted 3 in his Film Threat interview about Freaked (ca. 1992). It involved one of them being shrunk and deposited into the brain of the other in order to make him less of a dumbfuck. Or fuck-up. Can't remember the exact quote.
― Delightful in Microdoses (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 May 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link
I'm just kind of jaded by all the terrible fan service reboots that are out there right now though and it's hard for me to believe this will possess any of the creative spirit that made Bogus Journey a genuinely good sequel.
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Friday, 11 May 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link
Like I can already picture this:Bad guy: Use the Slipknot on them.B&T: Excellent!Bad guy: Hang them.B&T Bogus!
I'm guessing this is your example of a lazy sequel joke, but I actually did chuckle at it
― Vinnie, Saturday, 12 May 2018 10:06 (six years ago) link
I was watching the Red Letter Media take on the first two, and right at the start one of the guys brings up a good point. The first one came out in 1989, and it's an iconically '80s movie. The second one comes out just two years later, '91, yet it already feels totally '90s. Really underscores that cultural shift.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 August 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link
First one was written in 1984-85 and shot in 1987 iirc? Second one was probably written and shot all in 1990 - even the Evan Dorkin sequel comic series started in 1991.
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Thursday, 27 August 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link
if the sequel had come out nowadays, it woulda had its original title
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 August 2020 05:07 (three years ago) link
re-watching the original with a couple 90s babies who haven't seen it, and they are absolutely loving it. pure joy for us all
― davey, Thursday, 27 August 2020 06:07 (three years ago) link
lol, I knew sic would correct me that it was shot a couple of years before release. Point still stands!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 August 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link
Unrelated - and I say this as someone who spent time in the valley as a kid - was there a male equivalent of a valley girl? A valley guy? Because these guys talk like surfers/stoners/skaters but aren't any of those things. If anything they're ... metalheads? But don't really act like that, either. It's one of the movie's many charms.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 August 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link
not correcting, just reasoning why!
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
Uh, Marina Men?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXDRHOvfFZk
― everything, Thursday, 27 August 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link
Because these guys talk like surfers/stoners/skaters but aren't any of those things. If anything they're ... metalheads?
I grew up in the 80s 3000 miles from the Pacific and being a "surfer dude" was definitely a way of life that did not involve actual surfing
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 27 August 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link
Yeah, me too! There were surfer dudes at my school in suburban Philly. Though they also went surfing on the shore, as I recall. Still, would surfer dudes also be metalheads but not stoners? Hmm ...
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 August 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link
it's definitely cool to see an on screen adaptation of those types where they're actually likeable, idk if I can think of another example quite like it
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link
spicoli ?
― budo jeru, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link
valley dudes
― calstars, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link
Ninja Turtles?
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link
mama's boyz
― calstars, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link
oh...Ninja Turtles that's a good one
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link
bossa nova!
Chevy nova?
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 August 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link
is it weird that i like bogus journey more
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 7 September 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link
(i watched them both for the first time this weekend)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 7 September 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link
it’s very onbrand for you <3
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 September 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link
it really is
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 7 September 2020 02:42 (three years ago) link
Station!
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 7 September 2020 02:50 (three years ago) link
Faith No More?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 September 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link
The casting of the two daughters in the new movie is so fucking good, especially brigitte lundy-paine ie Ted’s daughter Billie her physicality & mannerisms are so hilariously on point and her wardrobe is a fever dream of perfection: rash vest + long shorts (dickies maybe?) with the classic 80’s sunset strip medallion belt & docs = chef’s kissi just love her, completely transfixing
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 September 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link
i made that very same observation to my wife when we watched this last week. she captures the essence of whoa keanu.
― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Monday, 7 September 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link
she's great. lil bill was less successful, on both an accent and mannerisms front, though I do like that actress in other stuff.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 September 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link
new movie's thread btw: Come anticipate Bill & Ted 3 aka BILL & TED FACE THE MUSIC with me
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 7 September 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, September 6, 2020 10:51 PM bookmarkflaglink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agaHP0eQHmU
― Neanderthal, Monday, 7 September 2020 03:58 (three years ago) link