> he hardly has a use for Jesse anymore
Absolutely. I figured Walt was just going to freeze Jesse out completely since he cooks the meth and makes the deal and that was going to be the source of new conflict between them. Also that Esposito would insist on ditching Jesse as a condition of doing business with Walt.
― Subtlest Fart Joke (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Walt makes meth. Meth is a drug. Jane died from a drug overdose. Walt let this happen. Walt makes drugs that let this happen to Many people, and he's been doing this for a while now. Focusing on Jane choking on her vomit and not thinking about all the people who are buying and using what Walt made is pretty damn ignorant. This show is not only about the characters onscreen; it's about everyone else in New Mexico that will be negatively affected by Walt's chemistry. It's a choice the dude made in Episode One. Why are so many of you saying that Walt is "suddenly evil now", and going ballistic like this is the character's first extreme immoral act. He's been doing the best for himself and letting people die ever since he made the decision to make the meth. I just don't understand how the death of Jane would somehow suddenly "open your eyes" on Walt's selfishness, especially when you're threatening to stop watching this great show because of this. The show is called BREAKING BAD. The writers are doing an awesome job. Are you not Enthralled by this epic piece of entertainment? If you're not, then why are you watching it, why are you here...etc... And DON'T say "because Walt killed Jane". The meth he makes is destroying the lives of many. If you loathe Walt because of Jane, and not because of Anything that occurred before this, perhaps you should examine your own definition of morality, because your judgement on Walt is rather delayed.
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
rumbled
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
re making jesse useful again, walt will prob be all fucked up after having his lung removed or whatever and he'll have to rely on jesse to cook
― wilter, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Are you not Enthralled by this epic piece of entertainment?
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link
: )
― wilter, Tuesday, 26 May 2009 23:56 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm a couple episodes behind but man I love Jesse for some reason. I just saw the dead-battery-in-the-desert episode and think the actor and character are really good. Mostly because I think it's great to see someone on television who isn't really that smart, or talented, and is kind of sketchy and messed up but think they're badasses. I see a lot of guys like this around and knew dudes like this in high school but they never seem to be represented to the degree that they exist.
― joygoat, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 05:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i am enthralled by this epic piece of entertainment and i will be super sad if jesse is written out - hes a deep character def - everything abt him is so otm - the scene when hes showing his girl his drawings was omg too real
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
"c'mon when i drew those i was just a kid... that was like four whole years ago"
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link
a friend of mine grew up in a town where a kid his same age had the same name as him - the other kid was a total fuck up causing my friend all sorts of trouble trying to get video store memberships and the like - when he saw jesse on breaking bad he freaked out like omg thats him thats the other g--e h-----s exactly
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I just saw the dead-battery-in-the-desert episode and think the actor and character are really good.
yah i really like that episode so many great little moments haha walt gets so pedagogical thinks he really got thru then jesse is like "a wire!" oh man walts face.
fact: i cringe less @ jesse than i do @ walt despite everything
― Lamp, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link
just got AMC yesterday; just added this to tivo list.
― im drunk so no forks (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link
only one more episode, yo :(
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
episodes are on demand tho - how i caught up
― Lamp, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
ah
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link
So Walt's newborn baby didn't die in meth-related explosion after all. Well played, black and white foreshadowing openers.
― your son rip is on line toot (iiiijjjj), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link
scene with Walt & Jessy at the crack house A++scene of Skyler leaving Walt A-the conclusion of b&w foreshadowing F
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link
scene of Skyler leaving Walt A-
this scene featured some of the weirdest acting/directing choices i've seen in awhile. Why was skylar like, moving in close, whispering, etc. playing leaving someone that she thinks is possibly dangerous and has betrayed her in a fairly elaborate way as a seduction scene was pretty o_O and frankly pulled me out of the scene altogether.
― a short guy with a lot of power (Clay), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 03:15 (fifteen years ago) link
ya - that was def strange. but i guess she'd been holding all that in for a while by that point.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 03:28 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess yeah it's sort of an intimate version of "gotcha", but it still felt pretty far off to me, emotionally.
― a short guy with a lot of power (Clay), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 03:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I give the conclusion a C-. I would give it an A if they hadn't played it as uber-creepy as they have - b&w, atmospheric music, etc etc. I like the whole chain reaction thing of it, though - Walt's actions leading to this plane crash in a roundabout way.
― Jouster, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 03:53 (fifteen years ago) link
very roundabout.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 04:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, yeah.
― Jouster, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 04:16 (fifteen years ago) link
i loved it when skyler moved in close - you're right Clay, it was freaky but also threatening, which i think skyler was playing with - this feeling if finally having some power, of being in control, of refusing to just accept and go along
it also mirrored their level of honesty with each other - this is as close to the truth as they've had between each other for quite some time
yes the ending was a crazy coincidence but it felt to me like a metaphor for all the anonymous druggie victims of walt's cooking; the show can't exactly go around to every drug den and show up close the effects - this was a displacement of that, a substitute for it
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 12:36 (fifteen years ago) link
no one watches this show!!!!the young man on it looks hepatitic!
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By fidobarks on 06/01/2009 at 7:40pm
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link
the hell is that from?!
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link
sad dad at his air traffic work stations voice barely cracking was super excellent acting - plane crash bait and switch was kinda lame but kinda awesome for its over the topness
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
sort of disappointed skylar didnt take walt up on his offer of the truth
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link
he'd be fucked if he did that. he'd probably never see his kids again.i sort of wanted to see what would happen tho if he told her. they've made us think a few times now that he was gonna do it.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link
it's too late for that - way too late
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link
it wouldve been pretty hilarious just to hear him recount the plot of the show - so we got this rv and went out to the desert... got kidnapped by a seriously tweaking dealer who i had previously tried to blow up w/fake meth... met a kingpin in a chicken place... killed a cute girl w/her own puke... u get the picture
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link
http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/05/breaking-bad-vince-gilligan-post.html
― am0n, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link
a friend of mine says that has s3 spoilers^
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link
but i really want to read it o jeez
i read it, there are no S3 spoilers
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
the only thing he really mentions is that gus thinks 20 steps ahead, which we already knew
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link
some vague talk of what will happen in s3e01 but it couldnt really spoil anything
― magic, i guess. i guess it has something to do with my magic (Lamp), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link
this is think is prob what he was talking abt - its not exactly a spoiler but it does point to where they ultimately want to go w/walt^^^^^^^^^^SPOLIAH?^^^^^^^^^^
And is it also a safe assumption that you're not going to kill off your leading man midway through the series by dropping an airplane on him?
We're back in the writers' room now, plotting out season three. I don't think it's too much of a spoiler to say Walt is front and center, as always. The way I see it, if a jet engine fell on his head and crushed him, he'd be getting off too easy. He's not getting off nearly that easy.
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link
well i didn't exactly think walt was going to make it to st croix with his millions and his forgiving family
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link
yah but the writers have it in for him dont u see - f'n jerkfaces
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't mind the Walt vs. Skylar confrontation - she'd done her homework and knew he was up to something but obviously wasn't going to hurt her, so she was taunting him a bit. Also cause it reminded me of Oran "Juice" Jones calling out his woman in "The Rain".
― joygoat, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Somebody's just pointed out to me the names of the episodes that had the pink teddy intro. "737" "Down" "Over" "ABQ".
― 88, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link
ya, he talks about that in the link earlier.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykCFDR5k2fQ
― am0n, Friday, 12 June 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link
not reading the whole thread but just wanted to say this show is fucking great and i'm abt to start season 2.
― Roz, Friday, 12 June 2009 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm not going near this thread yet for spoiler reasons, but the girl and I watched the entire first season in about a week and are now starting season two. This show is so clever and honest and PENSIVE; it's a real treat to see violence and fear given real people responsiveness as opposed to "oh dead body, hm, bummer" there's lasting repercussions.Total winner; very happy I got into it.
― (pronounced /ˈfɑrv/sklOf/tO/fewˈ/) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah this show is so damn good.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link
For all the crazy shit that happens in it, it's not very escapist. I think it will resonate with anyone who has decided, for one reason or another, to keep a part of themselves hidden from their loved ones. Or with anyone who has a loved one who does this. Which can be a pretty discomfiting thing to dwell on.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Just knocked 'Rescue Me' out of the box as my fave current tv drama; Rescue is more of a soap as opposed the the weirdly real flavor of Breaking Bad
― (pronounced /ˈfɑrv/sklOf/tO/fewˈ/) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I've watched the first three episodes over the last couple of days, and it's great fun, very sharp and enjoyable. Reminds me a bit of Carl Hiaasen.
― chap, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link