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OMG: “My daughter and a group of students left for spring break prior to the government's announcement yesterday. Once we became aware of the investigation, the young woman decided it would be in her best interests to return home.” https://t.co/1GHMMlKABA— Matt Pearce 🦅 (@mattdpearce) March 13, 2019
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 23:37 (five years ago) link
sprang braaaaaaaaaake
― j., Wednesday, 13 March 2019 23:56 (five years ago) link
if they had died you would still post about them (and the 70s film shorts they were in) in the obit thread
Given that Lori Loughlin's most prestigious credit was Full House, you may be lil bit off there mook
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 March 2019 01:22 (five years ago) link
William H Macy also apparently involved though not named in the complaint.
― nathom, Thursday, 14 March 2019 07:21 (five years ago) link
That seems a very favorable reading of the evidence. But yeah they didn’t have enough to charge him.
― o. nate, Thursday, 14 March 2019 14:17 (five years ago) link
when I was a TA at a uni famous for football I taught a class of football players & one guy who literally was "heir to a popular processed-meat company’s fortune" was in the class. he'd been given a football scholarship at this uni, & I don't think he ever played a down in his 4 years. always figured it was this kind of bullshit. one weekend during the class (it was during the summer) this guy flew the whole football team to his dad's mansion in arizona or whatever for a giant party. I think they ate a ton of canned chili.
― L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link
one thing that's pretty fucked up is it seems like most of these kids had no idea what their parents were doing, so now they have to deal with the possibility that they'll be expelled from the schools they were accepted to, and the ones who aren't at least have to deal with public humiliation at having been accepted illegitimately. And they'll be labeled as cheaters even though with few exceptions they were not privy to the cheating done on their behalf. I do feel bad for most of them. Though not super bad for the Loughlin/Mossimo scion, tbh.
― omar little, Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link
I do think the reporting around this has done a good job of painting the parents as the monsters over the students, with the glaring and well-deserved exception of Loughlin's daughter
― GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:37 (five years ago) link
well them and this guy:
Son defends parents caught in college admissions scandal while smoking blunt https://t.co/4zD4EdKM5q pic.twitter.com/rYC05uGRdt— New York Post (@nypost) March 14, 2019
― theorizing your yells (katherine), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link
"no idea" is a stretch. many of the shady activities required the kids' participation.
to the extent that they'd have "no idea" that e.g. collaborating with friendly doctors to support a disability diagnosis allowing for extra time or unorthodox proctoring it's bc so many privileged families are doing this already but stopping sort of changing answers or submitting someone else's test.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link
"son, we need to have a talk. our family has been implicated in a massive college admissions cheating scandal the likes of which have not been publicized in decades, but one where it's theoretically possible the kids can mostly escape blame. so, what I need you to do is go out and be as unsympathetic as humanly possible. do you think you can do that for us?"
― theorizing your yells (katherine), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link
omg lol at that dude, wow
― GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:41 (five years ago) link
xp -- at least for the cases where the proctors changed the kids' scores, I've seen a couple of arguments along the lines of "of course the kids knew when they got a SAT score 400 points higher than the last one," which doesn't make sense to me at all. have people never taken an exam, walked out of the room being utterly convinced they flunked it, and then found out they got an A? or have people never just straight-up guessed on a multiple-choice test and found out they guessed correctly?
― theorizing your yells (katherine), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:42 (five years ago) link
The toker, who sports a ponytail and raps under the name “Billa,” then shamelessly plugged his music. “Check out my CD, ‘Cheese and Crackers,’ ” he said of his 2018 five-track record that includes a song titled “If I Lost My Money.”
― jmm, Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:43 (five years ago) link
xp: Agreed, also some of these kids seem to have been actively studying for these tests, so an improvement in scores would have been interpreted by them as validation that their studying paid off.
― GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:44 (five years ago) link
Also, if you're a well-connected person at a school like Yale, you are going to have the opportunity to ride the coattails of other well-connected people into ventures with a possible upside of well over six to seven figures.
I will freely admit that I don't really understand the world of 'connections' but I was figuring that:
i) the kids of wealthy celebrities already have a lot of connections by virtue of being the children of celebrities and
ii) the kinds of Yale connections that would lead to starting up or being invited to join seven-figure ventures would still require you to be, idk, pretty good at what you were studying at Yale.
But yeah, clearly not a world I get.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:53 (five years ago) link
Although now, when I put i) and ii) together, I realize you probably mean that competent go-getters at Ivies may well want to associate themselves with children of the rich and famous because of their names.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:55 (five years ago) link
I think there are probably very few kids who were not in on it, and I am not going to feel bad about these Richie Riches when this will likely have exactly zero effect on their future life prospects.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:58 (five years ago) link
xp: ding ding ding
― GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Thursday, 14 March 2019 19:01 (five years ago) link
I think they ate a ton of canned chili
thank you for this
― j., Thursday, 14 March 2019 19:05 (five years ago) link
i used this story in a class today to talk about financial fraud, it was wild, students have all kinds of shit to say about it
― j., Thursday, 14 March 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link
― nathom, Thursday, 14 March 2019 20:46 (five years ago) link
j., you can become an influencer on ig --"shit my students say"
― John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Thursday, 14 March 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link
Also had a girl in our shop. She was saying she just finished a year at Oxford. I asked which uni she attended in the US. She was sort of shy saying:"Oh Brown." I replied:"Don't be shy! You should be proud of it." She said she was trembling when she read ab the scam. Dunno if it was bec her parents bought her way into Brown. Lol.
― nathom, Thursday, 14 March 2019 20:56 (five years ago) link
or because she didn't know whether they did!!!
― j., Thursday, 14 March 2019 21:56 (five years ago) link
things that cause me to tremble: 1) pondering how they crucified my lord. 2) pondering how they laid him in a tomb. 3) pondering how admittance into Brown University isn't validation of one's life.
― say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 14 March 2019 22:20 (five years ago) link
Apparently this investigation was kicked off by a finance dude who was under investigation by the SEC for pumping/dumping stock - when caught he flipped on the Yale woman's soccer coach who was taking bribes.https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-yale-dad-who-set-off-the-college-admissions-scandal-11552588402
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 15 March 2019 06:28 (five years ago) link
Harvard had $41 billion before the market crash. It would cost them almost nothing to keep paying workers. It should be socialized. https://t.co/Eh020XBbmi— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) March 22, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 March 2020 06:54 (four years ago) link