The island wanted LOST SEASON SIX THREAD to happen (***CLICK CAREFULLY -- CONTAINS SPOILERS***)

ayo haters...

do you know what lies in the shadow of DEEZ NUTS?

See, that should be the title of the S6 thread when it starts.

did we have a season five anticipation thread?

yeah and then it was changed to a regular season 5 thread cause no one was bothered to start a new one.

yeah so we don't need an anticipation thread. this is the lost season 6 thread.

depends on how many hundred posts we spend arguing

Come anticipate the inevitable disappointment and handwringing with me...

hahaha, yeah.

my wife and I are busy rewatching, Michael just shot A.L. and Libby.

also, TAWARET.

Can I just say the deaths of AL and Libby still kind of fuck me up a little?

My, Tawaret, what a big snake you have.

If no one starts an official S6 thread when the time comes, I will. I just got caught up with the series midway through last season and it was kind of a hassle figuring out where the actual S5 talk began. (Though when I found it it was pretty funny/obvious--a big series of WHOOOAAHHHs outta nowhere)

hmmm, look what was added at the bottom of the wiki article:

A giant, four-toed statue, misidentified by the official recap of the series as Taweret, stands on the beach of the mysterious island on the American TV series Lost, a fact alluded to beforehand by the solution to a Lost-themed Wired Magazine cryptographic puzzle by Bruce Schneier.[3]. Despite this identification the statue clearly depicts Sobek.

Sobek and Tawaret are very closely related, fwiw.

I hear they used to hang out at diety mixers.

wiki on some bullshit: http://www.docarzt.com/lost/lost-news/speculation-over-the-statues-identity-officially-revealed/

oh, Lost. Seeing this thread breaks my heart.

still not feeling this thread title.

So... last Comic-Con panel ;_; first two links only very, very, slightly spoiler-y - you know those guys aren't big on huge reveals - but i thought i should mention it anyway. Mostly seemed like it was a lot of fun.

Recap with all the promo videos plus some footage from the panel:
http://finaldestinationlost.blogspot.com/2009/07/order-of-events-lost-panel-comic-con.html

Slightly more readable recap:
http://jopinionated.blogspot.com/2009/07/exhausted-analysis-recap-of-last-lost.html

Some viral/ARG thingy? http://www.lostuniversity.org/
Don't have much hopes for it though considering how the last one worked out (i.e. it didn't).

is there no exciting new footage of next season or equivalent buzz clip?

nope but there are three clips (the Hurley and Oceanic commercial clips and the Kate clip) that are supposedly hinting on where the show's gonna go. They basically serve the same function as the Faraday/Marvin Candle clip last year.

also seems confirmed that at least Elizabeth Mitchell and Faraday will reappear in season 6. Possibly Dom Monaghan too. And that Batmanuel has been promoted to series regular rather than guest-star.

okay wait, i just watched a bit of the panel and they actually seem to be kidding a bit about Jeremy Davies being back so maybe not? i dunno, i don't really trust anything they say anymore.

I can't believe how many months we have to wait. :(

He also asked about the Dharma food drop from Season 2, and Darlton said they are going to address that in the final season.

not sure why i care so much about this but YEAAA

Hurley video (WTF!!!)

http://www.youtube.com/v/CXnAaTFlRw8&hl=en&fs=1&

Kate video

http://www.youtube.com/v/GQXuiCge-wI&hl=en&fs=1&

ayo haters...

do you know what lies in the shadow of DEEZ NUTS?

― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 13:36 (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol classic

Maybe he's born with it...

http://www.theackattack.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/rwmirpjpg.gif

lol what is he saying?

best part of that sketch was the bit at the beginning where he looks into the mirror and says (roughly), "Nestor, Richard Alpert isn't immortal... You are."

oh shit - so they're really gonna go with the alternate timeline?!

lol what is he saying?

"This is cobalt"

Full sketch here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkuq3_dcmo0

OMG

clips be menko

what the hell is going on with this Season 4 UK promo

http://www.youtube.com/v/SLg7smJJU6s

omg, what!? featuring fake-Portishead

feat. John Locke as "The Conductor"

god, even dancing zombie kate is annoying

wasn't this a SYTYCD group routine

is this the dave chapelle thing? that guy crazy.

if Alpert doesn't end up the real hero in this thing it'll all be for shit

I want a last season to do some George Lucas-style backpedaling and have the entire series being about Alpert

Alternate timeline thing would be really shit.

that promo scared me

that was a S1 promo & is as awesome now as it was then. and yeah, it was DlC

should say DlaC or it looks like i just put DICK without the K

whole bunch of foreshadowing there

hey it all being about Alpert, who's been in the show since season 3, would be a little less backpedal-y than it all being about 'Jacob's enemy' imo

fake-Portishead?

I ignored that

it was a season two promo, not season one. that wouldn't make sense.

season one promo:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/David_LaChapelle
"LaChapelle created The United Kingdom Channel 4 promo of the first season of Lost, which had the characters cleverly paired as dancing partners"

haha - my bad, i assumed it was a Portishead knock-off and not actually Portishead

missin' u...

thanks for the link. guess i'm a diehard Lost superfan forever because I actually read that whole thing last night

i still hate darlton

how many years until a LOST reboot miniseries?

At some point, I want an inside basketball account on what exactly went wrong in season six. I've heard rumours that they had plans for the temple that they decided wasn't working, and the fact that the sideways universe turned out to be unconnected to both Desmond's electromagnetic adventures and the 'Incident' at the end of season five, to me suggests a massive course correct at exactly the time they couldn't afford it.

I don't know. Lost was always spotty, I'm not sure season six 'ruined' anything. But the more I think about it, the weirder it seems.

it was fairly horrendous - like basically any other ending besides the actual ending would prob have been better. nothing actually happened, it was like "ok now we are done and have no more story the end"

I'm one of the few people who kinda liked the revelations of the nature of the island, and how little was revealed. But spending so much time on sideways stories that turned out to have nothing to do with the main story was such a weird idea. Like, I kinda don't believe that was the original idea.

"we sure as shellac knew what the polar bear was doing on the island."

So you knew there was a crank on the island, and that whoever turned it ended up in the Arctic, so the Corp. brought polar bears onto the island so that they could turn the crank without a human ending up in the tundra? Because that ended up being the answer given by the show.

(Later in the essay he says the original plan was the Walt summoned the polar bear using his psychic powers. I just had to vent.)

That... fits? The polar bears were being used for experimentation by Dharma. Close enough.
That said I love the Walt "animal psychic summoning" explanation much more, too bad they didn't go with that.

I only read a little ways in but if it includes psychic Walt I might have to return to it

MY BOY

The alternate timeline even now really pisses me off as a narrative trick, like why even bother wasting half of the entire final season on that when you already know it's going to go nowhere? It just took up a lot of screen time they could have spent actually bringing each narrative thread to an even vaguely satisfying conclusion.

Given the other pieces of shitty Lindelhof hackwork I've seen since I can only assume the dude is just incapable of writing endings.

lots of interesting ideas, not really so much on story arcs that end

I can imagine a roundtable of writers trying to figure out how character arcs will end, Lindelof wanders in, says "what if the island... is unstuck in time?!?" and then they all have to plot around this week's nifty idea instead of resolving anything

The Leftovers has given me a heck of a lot respect for Lindelof. Yeah, it was an adaptation, but the specific ways they fit it to the medium were some of the best parts. So I blame Carlton at the moment.

lol there is more than enough blame to go around

The alternate timeline even now really pisses me off as a narrative trick, like why even bother wasting half of the entire final season on that when you already know it's going to go nowhere? It just took up a lot of screen time they could have spent actually bringing each narrative thread to an even vaguely satisfying conclusion.

― Matt DC, Friday, March 27, 2015 9:29 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They were only able to waste half of the season on the alternate timeline because they were busy wasting the other half introducing a cadre of new characters who had no real purpose. Because these are the narrative through-lines you want to pursue when you have a limited amount of time to wrap up five years of lingering mysteries.

It sucked to feel so hoodwinked at the time, but in hindsight I think the failure of L O S T in the home stretch has really helped (some) subsequent genre shows by displaying how sour a turn your show can take when you're flying by the seat of your pants.

their failure in the homestretch was baked into the show's ethos--every mystery had to be subservient to characters learning about themselves, so instead of learning about the temple you had to meet some guy whose kid died, and instead of finding out more about the island you had to see these brothers get mad at each other

The thing that still most irritates me about the alternate timeline is that they wholly fabricated a son for Jack that had conflicts and emotions and stories and he NEVER EXISTED.

I really don't see that huge a drop-off in quality in the last season, I think after season 2 it sort of went downhill.

season 4 and most of 5 were pretty awesome as i remember

their failure in the homestretch was baked into the show's ethos--every mystery had to be subservient to characters learning about themselves, so instead of learning about the temple you had to meet some guy whose kid died, and instead of finding out more about the island you had to see these brothers get mad at each other

otm this tragic flaw ruined it all the way through

"As I described before, there was definitely a sort of "operational theory" for what the island would be -- it was liked by some and loathed by others -- and since Damon and Carlton chose not to say it out loud in the series finale, I won't presume to do it for them. Suffice it to say there was a concrete reason that we openly discussed on several occasions about why the island had an exotic source of power in its core that was able to wreak such miracles as time travel, the motion of the island, and somehow connect with selected people on a psychic level."

I can't think of any theory that would work unless you were high.

Ok finally finished this read, it was so long I had to spread it out over a period of nights. A really fascinating look at the writing and creating of this pretty unique show! Gives really great detail on how certain concepts were originated and maybe brought into canon. The drop in quality I perceived following the start of season two makes total sense as all the original writers had left the show. Also makes sense that new network brass did not appreciate the sci-fi qualities, which was my main selling point, and thus were heavily toned down during the middle run of the show.

Did they make everything up as they went along? Of course they did, they were writers, their job was to create something out of nothing (or at least very little).

Didn't they start dicking around with time travel during the middle run of the show?

As I packed up two years worth of stuff, a warm and welcome thought danced around my brain: an idea for Lost. As I had to write an email telling Damon that I would not be able to attend the screening he had planned for the season two finale (I only had one free week before starting on Medium and had planned a trip out of town), I added my idea to my regrets on the invitation and pledged that this would be the last thing I ever pitched him for Lost.

Hell, I was still on the payroll, so why not?

Damon responded warmly, and I went on my way... later, when the idea showed up in season three, I was ultimately gratified. Even on the last minute of the last day, I had been able to make a positive contribution to the future of something that had absolutely changed my life.

What was the idea?

Oh come on. Do you think I learned nothing from JJ? I may be saying now that this is the last time I will speak publicly about Lost, but I would be a fool if I left nothing in the mystery box!

Any ideas what this is?

It's weird, because the sci-fi stuff came back with a vengeance for seasons 4 and 5, so I wonder what changed their minds
Too bad the Smoke Monster wasn't nanobots though

xp Oh yeah nevermind. What am I think "heavily toned down"?

Well re-reading S3 summary it looks like the time travel stuff was mainly Desmond and perhaps has less of a sci fi flavor than a psychic/pseudoscience leaning. The show was mostly people trying to escape The Others w Desmond having visions of the future interspersed.

When I think back on it, it does feel right to me to call the middle years sorta 'toned down'. Season three is castaways vs Others, season four is castaways vs freighter folks. Season 5 def took a trippy twist and season six was just plain weird.

nanobot smoke monster as a messenger sent back from the future would have been awesome

almost anything other than what they came up with would have been awesome, tbh

it's gonna end with people walking around the island giving each other warm looks and sawyer giving everyone hugs, softly saying "frackles, frackles, frackles" while violins play for 30 minutes.

― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:04 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Maybe more like a Star Wars ending, you see the ghosts of Christian Shepherd, Charlie and the horse standing at the side digging the party.

― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:37 PM (5 years ago)

ILX basically called it.

Kind of amazed Locke didn't turn into his own smoke monster. Maybe they could've used a different color smoke.

from new yorker article about group dynamics in simulated missions to mars:

The study also cited reports of “unreciprocated sexual interest” expressed by a person of authority, and resentment from a French-Canadian participant who, forced by the group to sit through the television series “Lost,” complained that the plot was incomprehensible.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/04/20/moving-to-mars

otm

hahaha

sad.
I remember my heart slowly ripping out when giant pendulums and faraday's crazy math amounted to nothing. the show decided to go an emotional route and ditched any logic for "this is just the way the mystery works, deal with it". Actually, I don't want to recall the specifics because just thinking about this show makes me sad

https://www.instagram.com/p/BAiDJ18zCgK/

Hurley's original first line, cut from the pilot.

up there with dewey in scream 3 and admiral akbar.

http://ew.com/tv/2017/04/10/lost-volcano-alternative-ending/

they wanted the smoke monster to come from a volcano