love this: https://mashable.com/2016/05/03/game-thrones-heir/?europe=true#feTYi625sZqU
― thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link
I suppose if GoT were to end on a cyclically cynical note Dany could end up on the throne and then eliminate all other claimants, including Jon and Gendry-- with pregnant Arya going into hiding in Essos
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:41 (five years ago) link
How does succession work on this show? Who is actually the rightful heir at this point? Gendry because he's Robert's actual son? Not that any of them care at this point about how things 'should' go.
― akm, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link
at this point, might makes right
― sarahell, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:56 (five years ago) link
according to the mashable link, the actual rightful heir, if one goes by typical rules of succession, is...cersei
― gbx, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link
actually it would be Tyrion, they kind of hand waved him away.
Jon is rightful heir, unless you accept Robert's rebellion, in which case it's Gendry.
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link
Gendry would have to be legitimized, and seeing as Robert's in the ground, few people who have the authority AND inclination to legitimizing him.
― Perfect Leee Cromulent (Leee), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link
OK so what's your take on where the budding Sansa and Theon romance plotline goes from here
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:42 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
His heart was broken, coldly.
― Evan, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link
― Perfect Leee Cromulent (Leee), Tuesday, April 30, 2019 12:01 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Cersei could legitimize him as her heir, which could sow a bit of discord among the happy northern family.
― mourning joe (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link
well, i guess never mind, cause if cersei legitimizes him, he's the king and she's not queen anymore
― mourning joe (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link
xxp a belly full of promise beans and spear
― (B) Read Message :: "Try Posting" (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link
I've done the very smart thing of never watching game of thrones and then starting with the last 3 episodes. i enjoyed the most recent one, yes it was dumb in lots of ways but not any dumber than say a LOTR movie, and only a third of the length!
now gone back to the start and watched the first 5 episodes. i like this ned stark fellow, looking forward to following his adventures
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link
on Twitter the term "Mary Sue" was trending due to people accusing Arya of fitting that description which obviously makes no sense and comes down to standard-issue sexism.
― gyac, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link
Here’s one thing you should know, and it’s no spoiler: the actor that plays Ned Stark also plays literally every other role!
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link
Also GRRM has admitted that Sam is essentially his self insert character but again the show takes it a lot further.
― gyac, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link
I'm not wild about Arya either but she's spent most of the show training and then killing things. Her continuing to be good at killing things is simply not a Mary Sue situation.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:33 (five years ago) link
I mean, if you think the level of plot armour is realistic, sure I guess. Character who can do everything and is super special + no flaws = typically where people accuse them of being a Mary Sue. And the show has barely explored anything of what all this has changed Arya to be, instead people just think it’s all cool?
― gyac, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link
"realistic"
tbh "plot armour" is kind of a silly phrase as well. I only care if characters are doing things that seem out of character or beyond their abilities, which is why Sam fending off wave after wave of zombies bugs me but Arya being a super-skilled stealth assassin doesn't.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
Do these characters who can do everything typically take an entire season in training to become serial revenge murderers?
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
You can still like the character guys. Appreciate some commentary about my main beef with her, which is her function as a not like the other girls type character.
― gyac, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link
sure they pretty clearly set Arya and Sansa up as opposites early on
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:47 (five years ago) link
as I said, I don't care for the character and that is probably part of it
― Simon H., Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link
https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/cersei-lannister-is-smarter-than-all-these-morons-1834386681
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link
i know that article is tongue-in-cheek, but it's hard to spot the lie tbh
― mourning joe (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:33 (five years ago) link
I didn't think it's tongue in cheek! I'm hoping that the point is that Jon and Dany are useless and Cersei did the right thing because otherwise it's especially boring.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:43 (five years ago) link
She drinks and she knows things.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link
I mean, she sent Bronn to kill Tyrion and Jaime. Foolproof plan?
― mh, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link
she knows fan service
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:52 (five years ago) link
Did Jorah ride out with the Dothraki or did he separate at that point. I didn't see how he came back if so. I was half expecting the Dothraki to return almost immediately having changed sides. Seemed a bit wasteful of them.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link
he didn't ride out with them
― akm, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:01 (five years ago) link
i don't think?
man how dark was this show on everyone's TV? Jorah rode out with them and in fact started out leading the charge, but there was a specific shot in the charge that did show him being passed by many dothraki en route to the dead army.
― omar little, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:05 (five years ago) link
so he probably was lagging a bit behind by the time they were getting massacred up front
― omar little, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link
i watched it during the daytimne and it was hard to filter daylightout, as a result, I could see maybe 25% of the screen.
― akm, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link
weirdly the night parts were ok for me, it was the snowstorm shit with the dragons i was having a bit of trouble with
― omar little, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:07 (five years ago) link
That stuff was meant to be confusing
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link
yeah i guess i just think there was another level of ugly visual clutter with the confusion in the way those parts were shot and the characters framed that made it a bit more difficult than it should have been. the parts w/the NK rocketing out of the clouds below and taking some shots at them, and later them plunging down into the clouds were vv beautiful though.
― omar little, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:13 (five years ago) link
off topic but i can't read NK without thinking NK Jemisin and it's driving me nuts
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link
Yeah, Jorah rode out. There were then lots of riderless horses shown returning before one with Jorah on looking dejected. No-one said a word to him though, which was odd xps
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:31 (five years ago) link
xp so what you're saying Karl is that the white walkers were SJWs?
― rob, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link
no, but i can guarantee a horde of dead creatures led by NK Jemisin would have done a lot better in battle with than CGI face guy
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link
The trenches were a good idea. Was idly thinking how you'd defend against an enemy like that and a series of concentric barriers that funnel them into kill zones is clearly the way to go.
one of the many "but why did THAT happen?" moments of the episode was wondering how they intended to set the trenches aflame. were they just counting on melisandre to cast Wall of Fire and roll a 20?
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, April 29, 2019 1:36 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the dragons. but they couldn't see the signal.
― ryan, Monday, April 29, 2019 1:37 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ugh this shit drives me nuts: all of the goofy-looking elements of premodern war -- loud uniforms, big drums, trumpets and cymbals, huge flags that people would die to keep upright -- were to keep people organized and communicating. the whole thing hinged on a guy waving a torch? come on man
― goole, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link
Next week the dragons attack King's Landing but are soundly defeated by seasonable fog.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link
One thing I havent seen anyone comment on here or on reddit/twitter is the idea that "aw everyone important survived dammit" isnt a cert. We didnt see how badly off people were after all the wights dropped dead, aside from I think Jon, Melisandre and Dany?
Is it not possible some people are mortally wounded and will end up dying next ep early on?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 23:27 (five years ago) link
eh, I think that's unlikely.
― akm, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 23:49 (five years ago) link
next ep is a half dozen takes on the hospital bed scene from the end of ROTK, except all the hobbits are sad humans and the person in the bed dies
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:02 (five years ago) link
a late-discovered wound would be a cool storyline, but these writers are interested in cruelty to children, not to the fans
― goole, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:39 (five years ago) link
All the characters will eventually die when you think about it
― FernandoHierro, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 01:06 (five years ago) link
Maybe at the end it can do a little white text on black screen explaining where they went to college etc
― FernandoHierro, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 01:07 (five years ago) link
bran was the most sullen freshmen at evergreen stage college :P
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 01:08 (five years ago) link