Stephen Colbert has a new show!

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This guy made a salient point: "Even Bill O'Reilly knows that Bill O'Reilly is already a caricature, and even a fan of Colbert's preening idiot routine can start feeling claustrophobic after a whole 22 minutes of it." That simpering eunuch Aaron Brown seems more parodyable (tho I'd assume the SNL guy's version is toothless).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw a couple of these, and I quite liked it, but...it's really just Brass Eye Live, isn't it? Or at least it's trying to be.

JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

So far I like this show better than the Daily Show.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Thing is, I've noticed that Stephen changes his persona a little, or at least reveals a little more of his actual self, during the interview segments. He's far quicker at improvising than Jon is(not too surprising, given Colbert's background in Chicago vs Jon's in stand-up), and the guests are usually far more in on the joke and apparently eager to be honest & play along.

kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Nice Pere Ubu mention in tonight's show!

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 4 November 2005 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I have no desire to watch the Daily Show now that this is on.

miccio (miccio), Friday, 4 November 2005 07:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The Daily Show is suffering mightily from its correspondents. You just can't be in for good things when Rob Corddry is your big avian flu joke.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Friday, 4 November 2005 07:07 (eighteen years ago) link

they're shifting around their staff, just give it time

kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 4 November 2005 07:37 (eighteen years ago) link

He's far quicker at improvising than Jon is(not too surprising, given Colbert's background in Chicago vs Jon's in stand-up), and the guests are usually far more in on the joke and apparently eager to be honest & play along.

I think this is off. Jon is extremely quick and knows how to steer and recover from awkward interview quagmires much better, though I'll admit Colbert is already very good and getting better, especially as he's burdened with having to keep in character. A bigger hurdle is that the in-character interview conceit requires not only willing but most importantly able participants(who can get in a word edgewise - the interviews I've seen reveal Colbert to be a less than generous comedy partner). I think the way to go is to book either known "bright bulbs" and/or book complete stiffs and approximate an Ali-G dynamic, anything in between kinda sucks.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 4 November 2005 07:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I like how every Monday on the Colbert Report brings fresh improvements. The 2nd week, when they moved the interviews to the middle segment, to break up the monotony of the all-Colbert format.

I suspect it will get better, and I suspect eventually the Daily Show will make up for its less than stellar correspondants.

I do wish the Colbert Report had less "skit" flavor. On the other hand, that Jeff Daniels interview was excellent, and very smoothly played by Colbert.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:13 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah daily show's still fine. i'm really liking colbert report.

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm really happy that they're working their way through the districts. If they make it through all of them, it will be one of the most impressive (formal) things ever done by a comedy show.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm perfectly fine with the Colbert interview style. Yes, it requires more willingness, but I'm here for political comedy, not Meet The Press.

'Twan (miccio), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Rob Corrdry has a brother!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

He has for at least a month!

Dan (Nate's Been 'Around The Block') Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Awesome!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

>I think the way to go is to book either known "bright bulbs" and/or book complete stiffs and approximate an Ali-G dynamic<

Ali G dynamic will not work with a studio audience, and since all the guests so far seem to know who/what Colbert is.

SC did manage to mock Nixon's Last Secretary without being crude; that was good.

And at least he hasn't stuck his nose up Mike Wallace's tabloid-geezer ass the way Stewart did the other night.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

One of the great things about the character-based anchor is that he's never going to pull a "but seriously..." which Stewart does better than most comedians, but it gets tired either way. Plus Stewart's decided to increase the funnyface and Weekend Update-isms to reaffirm his not-a-journalist status rather than tell stronger jokes. I'm more interested in how the Colbert character would react to changes in the political climate than how Stewart would. It could peter out but as Causistry notes, it could end up more formally novel than Daily Show ever was.

Does anybody know how its doing ratingswise? I'm wondering if it loses people due to the lack of liberal self-identifaction. People I know who claim to only get their news from the Daily Show (former employers even, yeesh) might not care for it.

x-post and yeah, that Wallace thing reaffirms the "but seriously..." shit is comedy death.

'Twan (miccio), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anybody know how its doing ratingswise?

It's been been renewed for a whole year, so I guess it must be doing okay.

KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Woo!

'Twan (miccio), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Stewart seems to be sinking deeper and deeper into lazy Lettermanisms.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

well, conan's got leno to look forward to, so what do you expect? they're not gonna give it to craig ferguson.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Usually TDS works best when the actual clips speak for themselves. Stewart's act can be fairly lazy: The funny comes from the research and editing that happens before the show goes live.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Anybody catch the Al Sharpton interview tonight? That one got sorta ... awkward.

Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link

al doesn't have much of a sense of humor.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:54 (eighteen years ago) link

he was no match for a truthocution

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

an upside down truthikaze

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, I believe that this show will survive. It's consistently funny, Stephen's character remains true to form, the set is fabulous, the graphics are engaging and, best of all, like The Daily Show, The Colbert Report attracts really good guests. He interacts with them in an intentionally different style than Jon Stewart interacts with his. For while Stweart generally treats his guests with humor and respect, Colbert is almost invariably confrontational, which gives his guests the splendid opportunity to express their views with an entuhsiastic rebuttal. As long as the guest understands the trick, he or she will invariably come out on top.

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Jeffrey Rabbit, Sunday, 20 November 2005 12:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Colbert is almost invariably confrontational, which gives his guests the splendid opportunity to express their views with an entuhsiastic rebuttal.

Yeah, I noticed that when Bob Kerrey was on this week. Colbert deliberately set up recent talking points one-by-one for Bob to knock 'em all down.

kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 20 November 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Jon Stewart doesn't play a character in his interviews. (SC to Tim Robbins: "What's it like working with Clint Eastwood, and why do you hate the troops?" Alas Colbert doesn't keep the mask on all the time.)

Incredibly enough, I'm convinced a significant chunk of Colbert's viewers don't get the joke, if the studio audience is any indication. His apex was the "Rosa Parks: Overrated" bit -- TRUE satire -- and they started to hoot distressingly. Idiots.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm utterly infatuated with "better know a district."

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 04:55 (eighteen years ago) link

whoa. did thursday's show have a Descendents ref during The Word? Where it lists Stephen getting a "1430" on the Sexy Aptitude Test?

kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:10 (eighteen years ago) link

man, my guy Mark Udall was embarassing on the District segment last week. disappointing.

this show is so much fun to watch!

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link

i like this show now. at first i was like, "eh"... but now i'm like... "yeah#111~!"

the interviews still play out really freakin weird. but the WORD is generally awesome. threatdown is freakin great. etc. it's little things like the grizzly bear hate speech and stuff...

m.

msp (mspa), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I think this might be growing on me.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:59 (eighteen years ago) link

"i have put every part of canada on notice except nunavut."

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I noticed last week that the Toronto Raptors were on notice, which had me roffling.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Tim Robbins seemed quite entertained by it all

kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:51 (eighteen years ago) link

omg katrina vanden roffle is going to be the guest on my birthday!

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 07:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Jon Stewart doesn't play a character in his interviews. (SC to Tim Robbins: "What's it like working with Clint Eastwood, and why do you hate the troops?" Alas Colbert doesn't keep the mask on all the time.)
Incredibly enough, I'm convinced a significant chunk of Colbert's viewers don't get the joke, if the studio audience is any indication. His apex was the "Rosa Parks: Overrated" bit -- TRUE satire -- and they started to hoot distressingly. Idiots.

-- Dr Morbius (wjwe...) (webmail), November 21st, 2005. (Dr Morbius)

OTM. I have a pretty moderate but right wing Republican friend who I watched the Colbert Report with. For whatever reason, I pointed out to him that it was an O'Reilly satire, and he'd never thought of that before. A couple days later he told me, "You know what, you were right! That's why there's the American flags everywhere and the eagles and stuff. It also explains why I like it."

Haha.

Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Tim Robbins is apparently a rather humorless prick if you try to do a straight interview with him. *lack of surprise*

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I really like the Colbert Report, and it's made the lack of polish/QA on the Daily Show stand out a lot more. I don't want to stay up for it but I do, invariably, every time. It is impossible to stay up for Jon Stewart and then NOT stay up for Colberyt at this point, which is something I didn't expect at ALL based on the first couple of broadcasts and the descriptions.

[I wonder if Al Sharpton was maybe a bit pissed since Stephen pretended to be him on the Daily Show when The Rev couldn't be bothered to show up.]

I can't help but be a little depressed, though, or maybe just angry, that it would appear that the only news you can get anymore that's actually honest, as opposed to "balanced," has to be couched in all this ridiculousness and irony to A) avoid being constantly attacked and protested B) get people to watch.

I mean I go see "Good Night, and Good Luck" only to come home and realize that the only people who are currently capable of taking our sitting administration to task for half the shit they pull are two comedians who air after 11pm. Every other tv journo has to censor themselves or pay lip service to shit like "intelligent design" while pulling a straight face. I suppose the question is: Is this perfectly appropriate for the sort of MSM culture we've made for ourselves, or is this really, really pathetic and a sign of America's downfall?

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, as much as I liked the episode they aired last night - Colbert really got his facts wrong when he was going on about the softwood lumber dispute. I realize that this is "fake news" and giving a fuck about "facts" is quite silly - but this was when Colbert was explaining the facts behind the issue before he delivered his punchline. Silly but kinda irked me.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Getting the facts wrong (or skewing the facts) is part of the schtick, though, isn't it?

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Sure, when it's facts most people already know.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Uh, it's part of the schtick for "real" broadcast journalism, too

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha haa!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

[short & sweet x-post]

Tell that to the stand-in Rush LimbaughBot I heard spew a few days ago: he defended the helping friendly folks @ Wal-Mart against those nasty liberals because of this salient fact (and I sorta quote): "they sell quality goods at competitive prices." Nothing about the actual issues bandied about by anyone re: Wal-Mart shadiness; dude thinks that buying mondo-sized pickle jars for pennies a gherkin trumps any & all issues, and (of course) thinks you should believe the same thing. Unless you hate America.

But you're Canadian, aren't you, Thermo? YOU'RE ON NOTICE, FRENCHIE!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Zuit alros!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

the conservatives are mad at wal-mart right cuz they don't force their employees to say 'merry christmas', lots of 'hillary used to be on the board of directors yknow' bandied about.

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link


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