misleading???
― Mordy, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link
oh i just meant when i see 'the dorohedoro guy' i would assume it to mean the original creator and not the director of the anime adaptation
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link
also fwiw this is the other anime thread i'm aware of but no one uses it really
Anime S/D (COD hahahaha d'oh)
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link
I keep seeing Azumanga Daioh mentioned (incl in that thread), can anyone recommend it? I've seen it namechecked along side Polar Bear Cafe which is one of my v v v favorites
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
i don't think those two are much alike
azumanga's a pretty influential series that set the template for the many 'high school girls do whatever' sketch comedy anime that are adapted from 4-panel comic strip manga. it still holds up fine but there's plenty of other ones since that are funnier imo, like i'd easily recommend Nichijou over it
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link
ahhhh okay yeah someone I trust has already strongly recommended Nichijou and I have that queued up. For me, the charm of Polar Bear Cafe is how humdrum it is, it is almost entirely devoid of romance and high school stuff, the two things most Slice of Life animes seem to be centered around to varying degrees. Basically any Slice of Life anime that has nothing to do with love or school (see also: Skull-Faced Bookseller Honda San, which is completely different in regard to like tone and pacing but has a similar "here's a fun depiction of something completely ordinary")
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link
second the recommendation for Tatami Galaxy, just visually stunning and short enough to watch in a few days
― clouds, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
i'm glad you liked honda san!
have you seen pop team epic yet?
― clouds, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link
Yes! I've gotten a few episodes in, I enjoy it from time to time but I'm not totally hooked, at times it's SO frenetic and breakneck that the jokes don't really land
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link
omg Oishinbo sounds so charming and up my alley, I need to track this down― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 4:27 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 4:27 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
There are collection of some of the manga translated into English. The Sushi one is super interesting because a lot of it focuses on all the terrible parasites you can ingest if you don’t prepare it right. The sake one has some views that are a little dated but is very educational, especially about the sake industry as it was in the 80s but maybe this is only of interest to a sake geek.
It’s interesting, not least because it comes from a place of deep unease about Japanese culture, especially food culture, being subsumed by and excitement about new and exciting western things. A lot of the episodes revolve around a Japanese obsessive about something western being introduced to a Japanese equivalent that is as good or better.
One of the early episodes of the anime has a contest between foie gras and simmered monkfish liver and a bunch of gourmets are astounded that japan has something so good. (Having eaten monkfish liver in japan I am a little skeptical)
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
Is this also the manga thread for people who don’t really like manga (comics, graphic novels etc.), because I have a lot of manga for someone who does really like manga?
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link
if there's one thing manga and anime has taught me is that all Japanese food is oishii and woe betide anyone who suggests otherwise (apart from that one girl who for some reason can only make a purple mess of death)
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link
damn don't harsh on misato's cooking like that
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link
and yes someone make a manga thread so I can tell you all about how this Ito version of No Longer Human is really cheering me up haha
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link
my boyfriend told me to watch an episode of Food Wars bcz I love food and... this is not for me, I would prefer not to watch children being raped by squids I think??? Though it lead to a whole convo about fan service and whatnot, my boyfriend loves exploitation cinema and Russ Meyer and stuff so he didn't mind it as much, but tbh this feels a lot grosser than that to my eyes (also I don't love exploitation cinema)
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link
I would prefer not to watch children being raped by squids I think??? wait what?? maybe i should have been keeping a closer eye on this :(
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link
ya in the first 5 or 10 minutes of ep 1 when the guy feeds that girl the peanut butter squid there's a whole tentacle rape thing
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link
that part was gross but my bf and i watched the first two seasons and found it mostly really endearing and entertaining! you really start to love the chars once you get to know them all.
― clouds, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link
honestly that peanut butter squid thing is the worst the show gets afaicr
― clouds, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link
I've said it upthread somewhere but Redline is fun.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link
Foodwars continues to be massively sexist and objectifying.
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:17 (three years ago) link
Yeah it’s not great. I’ve talked with my kids about it. They immediately jump to its defense with all kinds of cockamamie reasons why actually it’s not sexist etc
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link
Cue Miyazaki "Anime was a mistake" gif!
― Nhex, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link
I'm very conflicted because the bits that aren't massively sexist and objectifying are quite good. It's also from this decade, not the 80s which has me RMDE at both Japan and Netflix. I should just pay for Paravi and watch the 3 seasons of Wakakozake I haven't yet watched.
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Thursday, 9 July 2020 05:44 (three years ago) link
Anyone seen the Ulysses 31 series? It was a french-japanese co-production.
I used to get some interesting anime recommendations on youtube but never see them anymore. It was the type of stuff that sold all over the world before anime had a real global audience. It tended to be fairy tales and I remember one of the earliest things I ever saw that didn't seem to be an american/japanese cartoon like GI Joe or X-Men or any number of saturday morning toy line stuff was Wizard Of Oz (there's different versions). I often wonder how much the fairy tales, X-Men, Thundercats etc got people ready for fully japanese cartoons.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 July 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link
watched Ulysses 31 as a kid as it was broadcast on UK TV, completely forgot about it until now and yet can immediately sing the whole theme tune. brains r weird.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 9 July 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link
there was another japanese-french one from the 80s that my kids have seen, the mysterious cities of gold. they loved it.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 July 2020 23:15 (three years ago) link
I need another pile of unread food manga like I need aa hole in the head, however a magazine just turned up with a list of the best food manga series and this one (Osen) looks so cool
http://goinjapanesque.com/ja/14343/
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Friday, 10 July 2020 07:32 (three years ago) link
https://blog.alltheanime.com/podcast67/Mentioned the podcast earlier when I was talking about Jonathan Clements but now I've listened to it. A lot of talk of of the original version of Gunbuster being difficult (or did they say impossible?) to find. Funny story about pseudonyms; Tezuka being a dick to a musician.Brilliant stuff about which animes succeed better abroad and then they're compelled to make more many years later (Trigun), or pretend they have more episodes than they do, so they can make them later. I'm kind of delighted that Urotsukidoji was a possibly bigger in the UK than anywhere else BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA! And he does talk about the irony of how it was portrayed as being what those sickos in japan watch, but actually Britain likes it more.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 13 July 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link
xps my first encounters with Anime was French kids TV in the eighties. They were showing Dragonball on Saturday mornings way before it hit the UK. Lots of other shows too - yes Ulysses, Cities of Gold (which were shown in the UK at the time), but also Olive et Tom, Ecole Des Champions, Nicky Larsson and many other French/Japanese productions. Anime was standard French kids' TV back then. Not sure what inspired it though
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 20 July 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link
anime seems to have been more successful in most places than it was in the uk. there was a lot of anime on the tv in Chile when I used to visit in the 90s as a kid
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Monday, 20 July 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link
Boogiepop Phantom and Serial Expeeiments: Alain are highly recommended, especially for us who have become shut-ins or already were pre-pandemic.
I haven’t seen it yet, but Dennou Coil (Den-Noh Coil) has gotten rapturous reviews
― beamish13, Monday, 20 July 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link
Serial Experiments: LAIN, not Alain, lol
― beamish13, Monday, 20 July 2020 23:14 (three years ago) link
It's interesting that anime never got much of a foothold in the UK, or Ireland. The only time it really had mainstream visibility here was during the late 90s/early 00s Pokemon craze, with a few other shows with names ending in "mon" and a heavily butchered dub of Card Captor Sakura. There have been a few attempts at anime-focused satellite channels over the years, and they all disappeared in a matter of weeks.
It seems like France and Italy are the big European anime/manga markets, both countries have a long history of anime shows on television (going back to the 70s at least).
― Duane Barry, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link
Germany is quite into manga, i remember a few years ago looking up books on amazon and getting frustated cos a few books I wanted to buy were only translated into German. iirc when Tokyopop collapsed in the late 00s the only bit that survived was Tokyopop Gmbh cos it was profitable, and is still going today.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link
It's interesting that it has caught on in Africa so much too; how about south asia and middle east?
Another thing in that podcast above (which is quite well known to be fair) is about how much Chinese authorities view japanese cartoons as a threat, they were appalled when they found out that the majority of popular cartoons were japanese and I think they banned a bunch of stuff.
I heard a good theory that manga and anime have been so accessible is because the faces of the characters are mostly very simplified and almost like emoticons. That's disconcerting for me because that's the thing I most dislike about it. It's quite hard to find artists who draw faces like Dave Cooper (when he's not in his old timey cartoons mode) but I've found a few I can't remember the names of.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link
I’m enjoying Carol and Tuesday on Netflix right now about two teenagers who set out to conquer the Martian music business. 11 episodes in the fact that they live on mars seems entirely incidental to the plot, especially as the bit of mars they live in looks like Brooklyn. Nevertheless there are lots of robots and AI’s, they hire a small drunken arsehole of a robot to direct a recreation of the thriller video in episode 4.
The whole arc is about the battle between Carol and Tuesday’s homespun, handmade, honest to goodness sparkly pop sounds and Angela, former model, who is working with the mysterious Tao and his AI to manufacture the ultimate pop career.
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Sunday, 9 August 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link
i think its on mars because its by the cowboy bebop guy and 'genre setting + music focus' is his entire thing
― ciderpress, Sunday, 9 August 2020 22:23 (three years ago) link
omfg I’m finishing up my second viewing of Kill la Kill which much to my delight my bf is LOVING, I wish this didn’t have so much gross sexual shit (incest, sexualized children, etc), it’s hard to like wholeheartedly recommended, but what a trip. Should I watch Gurren Lagaan next?
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 14 September 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link
kill la kill is the weakest of the big gainax/trigger shows imo, the second half is kind of a drag.
gurren lagann is better though still very much the work of the same director & writer so a lot of the beats are similar. same with promare though its a movie so its a nice concise take on the formula
― ciderpress, Monday, 14 September 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link
Isn't Gainax and Trigger anime for people who love anime?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 14 September 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
for sure, but this thread was originally spun off of eva discussion which is also gainax...
― ciderpress, Monday, 14 September 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
I feel like Kill la Kill is at once perfect for ppl who both love and don’t love anime
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 14 September 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link
also i mostly think of this thread more as 'anime with crossover appeal outside of anime fandom' which trigger stuff definitely is. imaishi's even making the cyberpunk 2077 tie-in netflix series lol
― ciderpress, Monday, 14 September 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link
I've been working my way through the original Patlabor OVA and it's interesting, it's slower in pace that what I would have expected from a mecha anime, like more of a drama with robots than an ACTION!!! series. The characters are well developed and it also has a timelessness about it, like it doesn't really lean into pop culture or era-specific tropes too much? I like it! It doesn't feel groundbreaking or mind-blowing but it's sturdy and pleasant. I'm almost done and then I'm going to watch the first 2 movies.
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 12:27 (three years ago) link
the 1st movie is my fav anime movie
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link
I decided to watch some anime again this year after a long time of not watching it. I don't hate anime but I often feel underwhelmed. But figured there must be something worth watching from the past fifteen years
Mob Psycho 100 is funny and enjoyable and visually interesting for such a well-trodden genre. Several friends also recommended Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, which was not bad but felt very standard for its genre (never saw the original series). I know there are much longer series but it still felt overly long. At least the ending was sufficiently epic
― Vinnie, Thursday, 24 September 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link
oh shit i should watch patlabor
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 September 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link
Yes do it, it’s only 7 eps and then 2 movies! Somehow I only just the other day realized it was Mamoru Oahii
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 24 September 2020 03:35 (three years ago) link
my bf and i have been going through jojo's bizarre adventure: stardust crusaders and have been loving it
― orson around (clouds), Thursday, 24 September 2020 04:04 (three years ago) link