Israel to World: "Suck It."

It shouldn't be like this:

A birthday party among the ruins in Gaza - Palestine pic.twitter.com/DVWP7KYqTq

— Aseel Mustafa (@AseelMustafa_) May 26, 2021

https://shtpost.substack.com/p/when-they-fartlow-we-farthigh

Oh cool bullying apologism.

even Rachel Riley and David Baddiel have kept up a dignified silence on this one

Oh cool bullying apologism.

― Van Horn Street, Friday, May 28, 2021 6:25 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is as disingenuous as Eve Fartlow's accusations of a "digital pogrom" being perpetrated against her. Guess what? In the real world, if you hold shitty opinions and voice them publicly, people have the right to mercilessly make fun of you for being a shitty person and an absolute fool. If that's what constitutes a "pogrom," then I wonder what Fartlow knows of actual pogroms throughout history. Not much, evidently.

when someone tells VHS to "go and jump in the fucking lake" he says this is despicable, these internet bullies are making a coordinated effort to actually drown me!

This is as disingenuous as Eve Fartlow's accusations of a "digital pogrom" being perpetrated against her. Guess what? In the real world, if you hold shitty opinions and voice them publicly, people have the right to mercilessly make fun of you for being a shitty person and an absolute fool. If that's what constitutes a "pogrom," then I wonder what Fartlow knows of actual pogroms throughout history. Not much, evidently.

― heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Friday, May 28, 2021 11:32 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don’t agree with Bartlow at all, and my disagreement doesn’t make her a shitty person. Mainly, I just don’t agree that society is better when you mercilessly make fun of people you disagree with. Obviously (to me), it doesn’t constitute a pogrom, but mob mentality bullying really doesn’t build any sort of positive outcome for anyone involved.

Calzino, I have asked time and again to leave me alone, you should think about what harassing me online says about yourself.

Any person who tweets about the trauma of seeing “free Palestine” instead of “free parking” should be mercilessly cyberbullied until they delete Twitter forever.

she is a ridiculous person not worth defending, not even on some anti-bullying trip

It's 2021. Being a journalist or opinion writer on twitter means people are going to yell at you. If you don't realize this by now you have no business writing anything.

For real. My last name rhymes with "bunt" so I tread lightly on twitter

I think when you are going to use "pogrom" and just empty it of all meaning "Fartlow" is the v least as a comeback, some of her tweets are pure quadrupling down on horrible positions for clicks.

Charitably I'd say she isn't well, someone should stop her from posting.

Someone should stop all of us from posting

Or perhaps, you know, maybe you don’t need to engage with her at all.

I will never log off.

xp people aren't going to do that when you are mis-using words like pogrom to talk about online drama. Most aren't going to stand it so maybe you should reflect and not post at all.

Obviously (to me), it doesn’t constitute a pogrom, but

as she has no doubt noted herself, ignoring trolls does not work, especially when said trolls have a professional journalism gig to help spread their hate

Why not engage with her?

btw she retweeted this, so calling her Fartlow feels kind to me

pic.twitter.com/3WYoapYbfH

— Imshin #StandWithIsraellyCool (@imshin) May 26, 2021

what the fuck is that hashtag

Why not engage with her?

― rob, Friday, May 28, 2021 12:46 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It gave her her largest platform yet? What good did it bring except the satisfaction of a funny ‘dunk’ ? I mean engaging with her could be in the form of good arguments and whatnot but calling her ‘Fartlow’ really does not provide anything. It’s just hatred, and she gains from it, and will double down, and then cyberbullies will go one step further and etc.

There is a logic of hatred at hand and it keeps growing and participating in that fuels the hatred, apologising for cyberbullying fuels that hatred, it is a stupid zero sum game.

Guys we’re getting lessons on how to deal with trolls from.... Van Horn Street

The calls are coming from inside the house!

Disagreements happen all the time in society and are not trolling.

but when they happen here on the internet, one must always land a zinger for the "Guys"

She’s not a troll, imo, she sincerely believes that the West is at risk of falling to radical Islamists who are gearing up for pogroms and people on the internet making fun of her are, in the analogy she uses, like the punks in Independence Day welcoming the alien invaders and getting vapourised for their naïveté. When Douglas Murray makes that argument, it’s because he’s a cynical fascist who knows it’ll further his political and financial aims. I get the impression when she makes it, she’s genuinely scared. idk how people are meant to respond to it in a useful way but the journalists and politicians who have been signal boosting her for the last eighteen months as a ‘critic of the left’ should be ashamed of themselves.

actual pogroms took place in Israel a couple weeks ago and instead of acknowledging that, she'd rather complain about fart jokes

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/19/technology/israeli-clashes-pro-violence-groups-whatsapp.html

fwiw, troll used to mean someone who parachuted into a forum and deliberately pushed people's hot buttons just for the sake of their own private amusement. The original trolls competed to create the longest series of baffled or outraged responses, based on the fewest posts of their own. it seems a shame it now means nothing more than 'someone I find disagreeable'.

I think it's less trolling these days than grifting (for clicks/substack or gofundme bucks/sympathy) from right wingers at least

gotta love this analogy from an article she tweeted:

https://spectator.us/topic/seth-rogen-jewish-problem-zionism-eve-barlow/

Those fortunate enough to be spared a daily bath in the sewers of Twitter may need to be filled in. Seth Rogen is to comedy as Chapo Trap House is to Henry Kissinger: a kind of stoned, dirtbag antidote to adulthood. He specializes in depicting that saddest of American male specimens, the pot-smoking, pot-bellied, moob-stricken man-child.

Hate to be a pot smoker with the wrong kind of body, when I could be...Henry Kissinger

very confusing analogy

this person is paid to write?

Starting to think "Fartlow" was being too kind.

how dare she slander "so not gonna happen" guy in that way

she didn't write that

though the actual author's resume is far more alarming:

Dominic Green, PhD, FRHistS is a critic, historian and the deputy editor of The Spectator’s World edition. The author of four books, he writes widely on the arts and current affairs, and contributes regularly to the Wall Street Journal and the New Criterion. His next book, The Religious Revolution, is forthcoming with Farrar, Strauss & Giroux.

The Twitter line of attack on Eve Barlow is to call her ‘Eve Fartlow’. It’s not much of a pun; perhaps it originates in a subliminal association about Jews and the release of gas.

"It was smart of Barlow to smoke out the bullies."

That would have been smart, especially wrt Rogen

The way Barlow phrased “my Jewish friend” made me assune she wasn’t Jewish.

The Twitter line of attack on Eve Barlow is to call her ‘Eve Fartlow’. It’s not much of a pun; perhaps it originates in a subliminal association about Jews and the release of gas.

Run that one by me again...

he writes widely on the farts

the fartlow effect

Usage of "Eve Fartlow" online has nearly quadrupled since the publication of the article complaining about people using it. pic.twitter.com/ivfo5OIAl6

— Jared Holt (@jaredlholt) May 27, 2021

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1928/8045/products/DonaldTrump-FuckfaceVonClownstick_480x480.png?v=1600185488

indeed

i'm disinclined to agree with Shari Vari that this woman is acting purely out of a genuinely felt racist hysteria and thus not a troll. There may be some truth to this but I get a genuine sense that this is somebody who is angling to provoke controversy and outrage and ride up higher in the algorithm as a result. Primarily though it gives me an actual bodily feeling of disgust that in the context of such horrific events someone has managed to make for themselves such a spectacle of their own attention-seeking tandrum and calculated outrage.

The trivialising comparisons that she and her defenders have made between being called'fartlow' and centuries of antisemitically motivated atrocities of have for me and others I think laid bare the inherent cynicism in how this accusation is currently being used by some parties to discredit any support for the situation faced by palestinians. any statement or action of support will be met with this kind of accusation and i think the fartlow brigade have weirdly been very successful in provoking such a ridiculous escalation in a way that is quite illustrative. rather than bullying maybe we should call it satire.

For sure, most of the people who are retweeting her now are cynical as hell. Most of the people retweeting her during her deranged attacks on Corbyn were cynical as hell too. She ostensibly ‘fled the U.K.’ eight or nine years ago, because she thought she, and the Jewish community, were in imminent danger, though, so this doesn’t seem like clear-cut opportunism to me, idk.

Yeah you may well be right, tbh accounting for the motives underlying any of this feels ridiculously futile and way beyond my imagination.

I m not convinced that grift is not at least partially behind her original article