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Agreed. It's like the crooked pub all over again.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Friday, 29 September 2023 06:48 (eight months ago) link

Cutting down a tree is a rotten thing to do, but as calzino pointed out, councils are the worst offenders in that regard. In fact didn't a council recently go on a psychotic tree felling rampage? I think it was Plymouth, just around the time mark s moved there... uh, hold on, no connection I hope...

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Friday, 29 September 2023 06:54 (eight months ago) link

The battle over Sheffield’s street trees began in 2012 when the council signed a 25-year contract with the outsourcing firm Amey, which included the removal and replacement of 17,500 street trees.

How the "chainsaw massacre" started in Sheffield.

PFI's

What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, uhh

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 September 2023 07:20 (eight months ago) link

I'm not saying it wasn't cuntish to chop it down but some of the performative wailing about it makes a pretty grim counterpoint to the reactions when e.g. a boatload of refugees drown

― Steve Bully IX (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 September 2023 bookmarkflaglink

There was a bit of sadness in my timeline (a couple were being sarcastic) around midday with some anger. I think the assumption was that person was a Tory-like evil. Landlord behaviour.

A few hours later it's a 16 year old so there's a bit of...amusement. The calls for murder are muted. People don't know how to take it.

Expect some essays on substack about this.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 September 2023 07:34 (eight months ago) link

It's getting fucking silly now:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/29/public-urged-not-to-take-branches-from-sycamore-gap-tree-as-souvenirs

Members of the public have been urged not to try to take branches from the felled Sycamore Gap tree as souvenirs. Some visitors have been caught by police attempting to take pieces of the tree, which belongs to the National Trust

Who fucking cares? It's just a load of bold sticks and branches now

Otto Van Tull from nearby Durham said it was “a sign of society falling apart”.

“It’s the same category as teenagers stabbing each other."

Like really? Fucking pillock

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 29 September 2023 17:46 (eight months ago) link

old not bold

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 29 September 2023 17:46 (eight months ago) link

a sad reminder to tell our trees we love them while they're still alive

i know it's still alive don't @ me

Steve Bully IX (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 September 2023 18:01 (eight months ago) link

A candlelit vigil is being organised by local people and expected to take place at the weekend

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 29 September 2023 18:03 (eight months ago) link

cue wildfire

Steve Bully IX (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 September 2023 18:04 (eight months ago) link

Minutes silence at EPL games this weekend or gtf

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Friday, 29 September 2023 18:10 (eight months ago) link

I do actually have a longheld desire to see football pitches being rewilded, 100 young sycamore planted at each ground, think how much better the game would be with players having to jump roots and dodge trunks, not to mention having a few wild boar trotting about in the undergrowth. This is surely the moment for it, would be a lovely gesture by the EPL

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 29 September 2023 18:21 (eight months ago) link

that vigil in detail:

https://media.tenor.com/J-rdbCkiZSsAAAAC/fire-burning.gif

mark s, Friday, 29 September 2023 18:22 (eight months ago) link

captain sir syca moore

mark s, Friday, 29 September 2023 18:58 (eight months ago) link

Wait 'til these people find out the sycamore is a (relatively) recent immigrant.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 29 September 2023 19:19 (eight months ago) link

old not bold

A slogan we can unite under

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 29 September 2023 20:20 (eight months ago) link

does rishi not realise what a vote winner it would be if the police could just go ahead saw this man off just above his feet without all the legal red tape nonsense?

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 29 September 2023 20:25 (eight months ago) link

The BBC live feed earlier today read like a brass eye episode

Ste, Friday, 29 September 2023 20:30 (eight months ago) link

I got idea man

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Friday, 29 September 2023 20:33 (eight months ago) link

bring back the birch?

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 September 2023 20:36 (eight months ago) link

Real chef's kiss

The sycamore tree on Hadrian’s Wall is as close as our culture got to a sacred tree - venerated, visited, endlessly represented - anachronistic in age weaving Robin Hood and St Oswald and the frontier forts and tribes of the Roman wall - and now felled like the druids’ groves pic.twitter.com/QJ2CgNMjGK

— Rory Stewart (@RoryStewartUK) September 28, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 September 2023 20:48 (eight months ago) link

It's not even eccentrically knotty and interesting in a way which distinguishes it from millions of other average trees. Fucking stupid cunt.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 September 2023 20:54 (eight months ago) link

just erect a gallows in the same spot imo

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 29 September 2023 20:55 (eight months ago) link

there it is:
https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2012/08/24/oswestry-bus-doubles-up-as-moving-work-of-art/

exactly apparently most historians no longer believe that oswestry was the site of st oswald's death in some inter-tribal war (and resulting tree). back then it were all (battle)fields round here lad…

also wasn't it the romans that cut down the druidic groves?

mark s, Friday, 29 September 2023 21:02 (eight months ago) link

i think one can think its a shitty thing to do and agree its not as bad as boatloads of desperate people drowning and want the 16 yr old and accomplices to hang, let's get ambitious for the feelings we can feel here

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:04 (eight months ago) link

always have to check whether oswestry is in england or wales. it's to the west of wrexham fer gawd's sake

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:07 (eight months ago) link

I spent a night in a Premier Inn in an industrial estate on the outskirts of Oswestry this summer. Real England/Wales.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 29 September 2023 21:08 (eight months ago) link

The playlist in the restaurant featured Freedom by Wham and one Sheena Easton's hits

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 29 September 2023 21:10 (eight months ago) link

*one of

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 29 September 2023 21:11 (eight months ago) link

sugar walls i hope?

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:12 (eight months ago) link

torn here between defending my marchlands heritage and making an offa's dyke joke

mark s, Friday, 29 September 2023 21:13 (eight months ago) link

That proves nothing, Edinburgh's to the west of Bristol.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:13 (eight months ago) link

I was confused but turns out there were 2 St Oswalds and I was thinking of the other one. tbf St Oswald #2 was from Worcester which is not v far from Shropshire

Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 September 2023 21:17 (eight months ago) link

Known colloquially as "Ozzy"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:20 (eight months ago) link

imagine booking the wrong st oswald as your after-dinner speaker, how embarrassing would that be?

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:22 (eight months ago) link

https://www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/adversaries/bios/images/oswald_worcester.jpg http://www.pravoslavie.ru/sas/image/101836/183611.p.jpg

no, no, no, we wanted the crow guy! fucking nightmare

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:25 (eight months ago) link

the worcester guy (a saint and an archbishop, of york) is not the oswald's tree guy (a saint and a king, of northumbria) tho: the tree guy mostly made war on the welsh but then died in battle in (or possibly not in) oswestry fighting penda of mercia

as for the sycamore gap tree, it ""escaped damage on 30 May 2003 when a helicopter filming British Isles – A Natural History crashed around 30 metres (98 ft) away, narrowly avoiding presenter Alan Titchmarsh" -- truly it weaves together all our legends

sky news reports: "the tree is reportedly 300 years old and was planted between 1860 and 1890, according to the National Trust"

mark s, Friday, 29 September 2023 21:35 (eight months ago) link

i think they must mean the "WOKE national trust"

mark s, Friday, 29 September 2023 21:36 (eight months ago) link

sky news reports: "the tree is reportedly 300 years old and was planted between 1860 and 1890, according to the National Trust"

Had to check this and yeah it's there on the pagehttps://news.sky.com/story/could-the-tree-at-sycamore-gap-be-saved-and-why-is-it-so-famous-12972287

Hoping that's not the National Trust's error

https://imageupload.io/ib/vTFjwaNL8G3tTpM_1696033577.jpg

glumdalclitch, Saturday, 30 September 2023 00:30 (eight months ago) link

I'm curious about the 60 year old guy they arrested

"Gramps, okay if I take the chainsaw out tonight?"

"By all means, boy, just be careful and return it clean and refueled, have fun"

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 30 September 2023 00:33 (eight months ago) link

I think you'd have to be pretty skilled with a chainsaw to have felled that tree, which is why I was kinda skeptical it was just some local tearaway.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 September 2023 00:40 (eight months ago) link

the info is already out seemingly, a disgruntled pair- one let go from a national trust apprenticeship the other from a farm job

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 September 2023 00:46 (eight months ago) link

xpost: from the looks of the stump seems like they just ran the cut in from opposite sides with no sign of a scarf. good way to get yourself squished.

no lime tangier, Saturday, 30 September 2023 00:55 (eight months ago) link

I thought the same thing, it didn't look like an experienced woodman's cut

Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 30 September 2023 01:01 (eight months ago) link

sky news reports: "the tree is reportedly 300 years old and was planted between 1860 and 1890, according to the National Trust"
if only we knew of a way to determine a tree's age...

StanM, Saturday, 30 September 2023 02:03 (eight months ago) link

Tbf it is possible that the tree was already quite old when it was planted in that spot - they were already shifting fairly large trees around in the 18th century to build landscaped gardens:

https://blogs.unimelb.edu.au/librarycollections/2016/09/08/the-eminently-capable-mr-brown-lancelot-capability-brown-and-his-magnificent-tree-moving-machine/

blazin' squab (NickB), Saturday, 30 September 2023 06:23 (eight months ago) link

Basically you're not going to sow an acorn if the client wants you to plant a specimen tree

blazin' squab (NickB), Saturday, 30 September 2023 06:34 (eight months ago) link


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