Israel to World: "Suck It."

We had it earlier.

Non-jews don’t get to decide what is or isn’t the homeland of jews.

They kind of did in 1948?

Throw this thread in the bin

That makes you as bigoted and hateful as a far right Israeli politician, congratulations you raging antisemite.

― Van Horn Street, Monday, 9 October 2023 bookmarkflaglink

So that bit of land was the Jewish people's all along?

Even if a Palestinian lived in it recently. Very interesting.

It has been the homeland of jews prior to the existence of the modern state of Israel, Alfred. Jews built Jerusalem as the center of their land and culture and language and religion a millenium before Islam even existed.

Throw this thread in the bin

― H.P, Monday, 9 October 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Why? Don't you want to see quotes from Israeli politicians calling Palestinians "human animals"? Is that too ugly for you?

It has been the homeland of jews prior to the existence of the modern state of Israel, Alfred. Jews built Jerusalem as the center of their land and culture and language and religion a millenium before Islam even existed.

― Van Horn Street, Monday, 9 October 2023 bookmarkflaglink

So you do agree with The Nakba?

It’s almost like having ethnic “homelands” inevitably leads to expulsions, ethnic cleanings and genocides

So that bit of land was the Jewish people's all along?

― xyzzzz__, Monday, October 9, 2023 9:00 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I’ve said upthread that there are two indigenous people to the land. They need to compromise in order to co-exist. Something muslims didn’t do from 636 to 1948 by conquering the land from the Byzantine and imposing dhimmi status on jews.

Yeah that's exactly it xyzzzz__, spot on with your assumptions

It’s almost like having ethnic “homelands” inevitably leads to expulsions, ethnic cleanings and genocides

― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, October 9, 2023 9:03 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Not the jews fault if the arab and muslims conquered this vast amount of land and claimed it for themselves. Nor is it the farsi, copts, kurds, yazidis, maronites, armenians, etc. Should they all give up on their cultural background ?

Something muslims didn’t do from 636 to 1948 by conquering the land from the Byzantine and imposing dhimmi status on jews.

― Van Horn Street, Monday, 9 October 2023 bookmarkflaglink

See, that wasn't so difficult was it? Only took you two days.

The people who mouth this shit won't be looking to "co-exist".

You are justifying genocide

When muslims expand violently and keep resisting self determination movement from minorities it’s dope af but when jews want a state in their land so they can stop being a persecuted minority it’s a settler colonial state, even if half the population are actually refugees from expulsion from those arabs state and the other half is…
ah yes actual holocaust survivors who were called semites because they came from the region.

The justifications for genocide go on.

Are you moving to Israel?

The people who mouth this shit won't be looking to "co-exist".

You are justifying genocide

― xyzzzz__, Monday, October 9, 2023 9:14 AM (seventeen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

If you think a two-state solution where jews can freely live in their state and palestinians freely can live in theirs is considered genocide you just aren’t smart at all.

Are you moving to Israel?

― xyzzzz__, Monday, October 9, 2023 9:16 AM (forty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

I visit from time to time. Great place you should try it.

I am the smartest because I don't even want borders.

So when are you calling Israel "home"? xp - you should live there. Suits you.

Easy to say, citizen of the world, you live in the ex-greatest colonial empire in history and no one of your way of life has never been on the verge of extinction.

You'll never guess what kind of rhetoric is popular in the ex-greatest colonial empire in history:

Disgusting from the editor of the Jewish News, Richard Ferrer, in the Express today.

He actually says "historic Islamic bloodlust, passed down through the generations from birth"

This must be retracted. https://t.co/hwD4fvVirx pic.twitter.com/HNqm55a3d6

— Miqdaad Versi (@miqdaad) October 8, 2023

Yes Fish and chips on a Friday night is my way of life, not genocide of Muslims. xp

I wouldn’t take the high ground on treatment of muslims.

We know you wouldn’t

However, thanks for the state.

I wouldn't make assumptions about other ILXors' backgrounds either if I were you.

Lol

Well if he isn’t British and that obsessed with british politics you guys should help him, no one deserves that fate.

However, thanks for the state.

― Van Horn Street, Monday, 9 October 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Man sure loves imperialism when it suits.

i've never heard jews preach that every muslim should die. i definitely have heard this from muslims. not that israelis should die. but that EVERY jew on earth should die. i guess that's the difference to me. i take world-wide tribalism on a case to case basis, you see. but the jew-hate might just be scarier to me because i have jewish friends and family and have grown up with jewish people.

hamas leader in 2019:

"If this siege is not undone, we will explode in the face of our enemies, with God's permission. The explosion is not only going to be in Gaza but also in the West Bank and abroad, God willing," Hamad said.

"But our brothers outside are preparing, trying to prepare, warming up."

He continued: "Seven million Palestinians outside, enough warming up, you have Jews with you in every place. You should attack every Jew possible in all the world and kill them."

"British" of course a synonym of "white" and impossible that anyone British could belong to an oppressed minority. Good work vhs.

but mostly i stay out of it altogether because i know how much leftie/progressive people hate israel and unfortunately i am SURROUNDED by leftie/progressives.

mowing 250 people down at a music festival is some pretty sick shit though, huh? 2000 years of history notwithstanding.

"British" of course a synonym of "white" and impossible that anyone British could belong to an oppressed minority. Good work vhs.

― Daniel_Rf, Monday, October 9, 2023 9:33 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

and some of you are literally refusing a people’s right to self determination.

could've just gone with "oh yeah, shouldn't have assumed this person is white" but you do you

No one is cheering on that Scott. Just made up people in VHS' head xp

I mean Israel have forcibly taken that land and are running a rave on it. They couldn't even provide security. Failed state.

could've just gone with "oh yeah, shouldn't have assumed this person is white" but you do you

― Daniel_Rf, Monday, October 9, 2023 9:36 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i was the under impression the person was from south america, so unless he is a native south american i don’t really care, especially since the person has yet to comdenm attacks on jewish civilians, refuted our link to our homeland, and played half the scale of antisemitic tropes.

doesn't excuse murder. mass murder. x-post

No one is cheering on that Scott. Just made up people in VHS' head xp

― xyzzzz__, Monday, October 9, 2023 9:36 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Plenty of people were cheering in the streets and in my hometown, the pro-palestinian movement called for a celebration for ‘this heroic attack’.

i definitely have heard this from muslims. not that israelis should die. but that EVERY jew on earth should die.

dude I've heard some opinions from "Christians" that may shock you

did you know what i learned? there are more Palestinians in Chile than there are in Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, or Egypt. #themoreyouknow

"dude I've heard some opinions from "Christians" that may shock you"

that they think all the jews in the world should die? no, i've heard that too.

scott, tbf, you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about and are engaging in deeply Islamophobic and racialised tropes right now

i wasn't raised tribally. my family weren't christians. we worshipped jazz. its ALL friggin' scary to me. don't get me wrong. doesn't matter what large cult it is.

doesn't excuse murder. mass murder. x-post

― scott seward, Monday, 9 October 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Who is doing that? I haven't condemned it. Doesn't mean I condone it. Similarly you haven't said anything about Gaza but I am sure you don't agree with putting two million dispossessed people in a concentration camp.

don't worry, i'm leaving. just checking the thread out. sorry i did. i don't hate anyone. or any group.

just saw on the news there will be a "complete siege" on gaza. sorry for everyone.

I am sorry too. Take care, Scott

likewise scott— sorry to get so aggro, am just frustrated.