But Will There Be Corgis? Thread Where We Discuss Netflix's THE CROWN

I've already said this, but the name "Fflyn" was new to me. I have been helpfully educated on the linguistic rationale (hat tip to James Redd) but I am still processing that info.

i hadn’t caught up on s5 & s6 until now

halfway thru s5
there is def something a bit boring about this season i agree

i think staunton is great as the Queen but i am struggling to get with McNulty as Charles, he’s not nearly pompous & insecure enough, too confident

debicki is good as diana but i ageee w comments upthread that its mostly mannerisms & a bit one-note

i really love lesley manville as margaret, and casting Timothy Dalton as Group Captain Wotsisface in s5e4 was such a lovely touch

Mohamed al-Fayed's episode was maybe the best episode of S5, which is kind of indicative of the existential crisis this show had in its last two seasons. the writers' choices of focus were probably for the better, because I'm not sure I enjoyed any episode focused on the Queen in S5 or S6

yeah agree i liked that one a lot
did the thing imo crown does best, weaving two time periods together

idk what it is about s5 but i’m honestly so bored by their dramatization of the diana of it all at this point
like she’d literally tell a teatowel how miserable she is and wants a divorce then next thing moping to her therapist like oh the queens dismissal was “so final”
like omg stfuuuuuup go wear a fucking bikini and be divorced PLEASE

If she hadnt died she'd have broken up with Dodi like a week later whats a bet.

By the time it got to the Wills and Harry stuff I completely lost interest.

lol yeah probably.

i just finished s5, so now i begin the long march thru s6

sidebar: queen now 100% reminding me pf my dear departed nan, who had almost the same hairdo, wore the same wool skirts & cardigans every day of her life, never saw her in a single pair of trousers

did the thing imo crown does best, weaving two time periods together

For me the other thing The Crown does best is telling me things about British history, and specifically the monarchy, that I didn't already know. The only episode in the last two seasons that did that was the one about Mohamed al-Fayed.

tired: queen as a child tricked* into a nazi salute
wired: queen as an old lady tricked into wearing nu-metal shorts

this gives me a handy bar for the remainder of this show to fall below, at last i can start watching s5 & then s6

*it's why she hates her uncle, bcz either it's a public shame (shows her as she isn't) or a public revelation (shows her as she actually is)**
**either way is an unwanted obstacle

yeah the second half of the final season was completely limp and pointless, but I think that may simply be because I remember all of it happening in real time

yeah i think thats true also

ok well into deathmarch to the end of s6

still such a boring slog
after everything they did w the first 4 seasons its like they were just, fuckit we’ve go nothing here’s diana staring up under her fringe for 20 hours

like no history detours really at all except the mohammed fayed ep in s5

the speculative fiction of dodi & diana’s final hours together was a bit much for me, i mean maybe that is what happened idk

i’m only on ep5 cannot even begin to imagine the depths of boredom yet to be excavated here weeeee zzzz

The William & Catherine and William & Harry stuff is yes, even more boring. The Princess Margaret episode was good though.

good to know thx

the speculative fiction of dodi & diana’s final hours together was a bit much for me, i mean maybe that is what happened idk

ya this was bad, also there's an entirely made up plotline about how Kate's mother basically engineered her daughter and William getting together from even before their time at St Andrews. i mean sure, this show is fictionalised, but that whole arc seemed unnecessarily mean-spirited

didn't even distract from how boring the whole season was, it was def a struggle to finish

yeah they really struggle to make the second half of S6 interesting. just little there work with, I suppose. I preferred the Diana episodes even if I knew a lot of the story

this back half feels so speculative as to beggar belief, like beyond fictionalizing and into “we have now decided to just invent new characters we are calling The Royals”

Charles going off into the scottish highlands to wail abt Dianas death seemed insanely fabulist, like ok what are we actually doing here

and ghost Dianas convo w the queen
lmao ok whut

wait this sounds good tho, all historical reconstruction should include ghosts, cf hamlet etc

to affirm my claim i found a fine portrait of the real actual historical hamlet aka "amblett"

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Amblett_Hamlet.jpg/800px-Amblett_Hamlet.jpg

FWIW the ghosts didn't bother me nearly as much as the boring shit

true, the boring shit is definitely the worst aspect

fiiiiiinallly finished this trudge through the treacle of s6

high point: really liked the episode about Margaret, thought it showed their relationship as sisters quite nicely. i didn’t know she had burned her feet, v awful

i liked all the scenes btw William & the Queen, they have good chemistry in their scenes together

camilla puffing on a cig while tending to the tomato plants was v good

harry’s nazi uniform moment lol ugh

the rest of it was decidedly boring/mid and i am glad its over

should have stopped at s4 tbh

OH and the penitence prayer scene for Chuck & Camilla was pretty great imo