Notherly? Northerly, you know what I mean.
― emil.y, Sunday, 7 April 2024 13:13 (two months ago) link
Notherly is probably in the Midlands though.
― Hunky Tory (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 April 2024 13:16 (two months ago) link
Okay, hang on, need to check if this opinion is controversial... East Anglia is part of The South. Is that just me or is that a commonly accepted feeling?
― emil.y, Sunday, 7 April 2024 13:16 (two months ago) link
East Anglia and the West Midlands are their own (single and unified) region
a lot of the issue here is that england's second city (the birmingham-wolverhampton agglomerate) functions as a vast undervalued cultural black hole for reasons that ozzy osbourne and kevin rowland have spent a lifetime explaining to northern AND southern melts (who comprehend this not)
― mark s, Sunday, 7 April 2024 13:35 (two months ago) link
We need Adrian Chiles to arbitrate on this matter.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 7 April 2024 13:40 (two months ago) link
the black hole thesis is basically the same as the one for modern times that cambrian chronicles offers on youtube re pre-norman times in "the medieval kingdom that was erased from history" btw (also known as "video unavailable")
(content warning: giraldus cambrensis as one of the sources)
― mark s, Sunday, 7 April 2024 13:49 (two months ago) link
as a Wessie my main definition of Yorkshire is the hilly terrain, which is why flat zones like Doncaster feel quite alien to me and could be anywhere similar to Northampton - whereas towns of Lancashire on the edge of the S Pennines like Rochdale feel more like home to me.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 7 April 2024 14:44 (two months ago) link
I'm from Worcester, which is definitely in the Midlands.
* waves *
one thing that really confuses me is when people from the midlands say they are northern. it's not something I've seen on ilx in recent times but I do remember someone posting that they were from Wolverhampton and also they were northern and being like **wtf**?!?!? no
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 7 April 2024 14:46 (two months ago) link
but the top bit of Cambridgeshire where it turns into Peterborough is definitely East Midlands.
I have a friend here from that bit and he def sounds like he's from the East Midlands. tbf Peterborough historically was in Northamptonshire they just picked it up and moved it into Cambridgeshire brick-by-brick in 1889
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 7 April 2024 14:49 (two months ago) link
To get even more granular, the bit to the East of Peterborough, Fenland, is definitely East Anglia but is probably not East Midlands. Don't know if I'd call it "South" though. All I know is that it's officially the most miserable place in the UK - https://www.fenlandcitizen.co.uk/news/people-from-fenland-the-most-unhappy-in-the-uk-9045306/
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:02 (two months ago) link
another vanished kingdom: west anglia
― mark s, Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:04 (two months ago) link
Lives on in this institution - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_of_West_Anglia
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:05 (two months ago) link
Staffs is more West Midlands
i know you're right but i mean kind of? South Staffs used to contain Walsall and maybe the entire Black Country, but it doesn't any more - and North Staffs is Stoke and whatever that is
Derby & Notts & Leicester all East Midlands, and there is a bit of a different 'style' of Midlandsiness between West and East
this is also "right" but Derby is pulled North by the Peaks maybe and then places like Chesterfield feel like the almost-North too
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:09 (two months ago) link
Nottingham and Leicester i'll give to the East Midlands absolutely, other bits of Notts i feel a little differently about, when i think about Derby i know in my heart it's the Midlands i just prefer to ignore it out of existence
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:11 (two months ago) link
not the entire Black Country - Dudley & Stourbridge were in Worcestershire
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:17 (two months ago) link
oh yeah good shout
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:18 (two months ago) link
the North starts at Stoke as any fule kno
― fetter, Sunday, 7 April 2024 18:31 (two months ago) link
kay, hang on, need to check if this opinion is controversial... East Anglia is part of The South. Is that just me or is that a commonly accepted feeling?― emil.y, Sunday, 7 April 2024 14:16 bookmarkflaglink
― emil.y, Sunday, 7 April 2024 14:16 bookmarkflaglink
I don't think this should be controversial but has made me think - technically I am from south of the Watford Gap and I have lived in the south my entire adult life, but I still think of myself as a midlander and probably always will, I strongly believe the midlands is its own thing and not north or south. but some of East Anglia is further north than the west midlands - Norwich is further north than Birmingham for instance
on the other hand I call my mum "mom"
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 7 April 2024 23:22 (two months ago) link
there is also "the west is its own thing" argument which I personally agree with - the south west/West Country doesn't have a whole lot to do with the rest of the south and probably has no reason to be grouped together with it really
― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 7 April 2024 23:33 (two months ago) link
West Country / London / Anglia / Central / Yorkshire / Border / Meridian / Granada / Tyne Tees - I don't make the rules
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 April 2024 00:04 (two months ago) link
tbf that sort of works
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 8 April 2024 00:36 (two months ago) link