Democratic (Party) Direction

I don't get why ppl are blaming Biden and the Democratic Party for the actions of the Columbia University administration

Let alone the state of Israel!

A new statement from the White House in response to the news of Columbia protestors taking over a campus building. pic.twitter.com/A48LpNGyhg

— Asma Khalid (@asmamk) April 30, 2024

piece of shit

Let alone the state of Israel!

I think the table is the broadly correct here. Biden's seeming inability to exercise any kind of control over Israel's actions is somewhat incongruous with the various conditions imposed on Ukraine in what they can use, where they can use it, when they can use it. The disparity between the former and the latter is particularly striking, and I think its fair to say this is something which lands on Biden's desk, the complete disregard for the concept of leverage that is so readily available in another context. But this is the problem with the idea of "unconditional support"

I think as far as Colombia goes, thats on them not Biden

I don't think the campus protests and the ridiculous reactions are good for Biden as it might peel away his "coalition" from both sides. I don't blame the protestors for that though.

have the White House put out a statement about UCLA yet or do they only weigh in when property is threatened?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/06/opinion/trump-dominance-democrats.html

Today’s Republicans are all about dominance. They embrace us-versus-them framing, double down on controversial statements and take risks. Today’s Democrats often recoil from “othering” opponents and back down after ruffling feathers. They have grown obsessively risk-averse, poll-driven, allergic to engaging on hot-button issues (except perhaps abortion) — and more than a little boring.

He's not wrong. Democrats seem to miss every opportunity to kick Republicans in the balls, unless it's at the White House Correspondents' Dinner or some other sanctioned, don't-worry-it's-all-just-a-game event.

its baffling like you have zero chance at actually peeling away Republican votes but showing a little fire and a willingness to bend the rules Republicans are intent on flagrantly breaking could definitely help you on a lot of fringes. its like they don't realize this is war

its baffling like you have zero chance at actually peeling away Republican votes

I think there is zero doubt that D's have been peeling away Republican votes in the Milwaukee suburbs.

we buying this?

https://the.ink/p/new-democratic-party-brat-pack

maybe your beloved whig party will change something
― ,,, Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:02 AM (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

maybe your beloved dick will change something
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:07 AM

we buying this?

https://the.ink/p/new-democratic-party-brat-pack

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek),

We discussed it in the politics thread last Sunday. Many of us balked at the emphasis on message over solutions around which you can construct a message.

Fair

I might be misunderstanding some of that article but I feel like Harris has a more humble or decentering approach than Biden or Hillary did

Yeah the "I'm With Her" message in 2016 was real off-putting, personality-cultish. Almost a Dem inverse of the "only I can fix it" from Trump.

https://i.ibb.co/X2LyYfv/GZ5-Jh-k-Ww-AELPKj.png

I know that citing legalization of marijuana as part of your specific agenda "For Black Men" is remarkably tone deaf to the implications people will draw from that, but national legalization should absolutely lead to the release of large numbers of Black men who were imprisoned for simple possession, possibly expunging their convictions from public records at the same time. It will definitely disarm a weapon used by police and the courts to disproportionately victimize Black men. So, in view of that, it provides a particularly direct benefit for Black men.

I for one salute our new bitcoin president

'Cryptocurrency investments' are inherently unsafe, what are they gonna do to protect them? Then I want protections for all my horse racing bets

I think her campaign is doing a pretty good job overall but yeah I get big Hillary vibes from that shit

Tokemon go to the polls

Like introducing FDIC insurance for crypto, which would probably also require more regulation and reporting on the part of the exchanges, which … could be helpful, idk … though the federal legalization of weed would mean that weed businesses in states where it already is legal can actually use banks directly.

The crypto stuff has an air of Kamala’s staffers followed a couple of Rise and Grind social media accounts and decided that’s what Black men are demanding from her.

did we ever get this sorted

A thread for discussing the Democrats' "message"/framing/etc.
― g@bbneb (gabbneb)

Afaic the Bernie post was correct and yet it will most likely be ignored by a bunch of Ivy-educated consultants who don’t care if the Dems lose because they will always be insulated from the most major effects of Republican demagoguery.

Time to build better at the local level

Build back better even

The Bernie post is correct. Some DC dems get it, I assure you.

They’ll get all this sorted. They’ll be sure to nominate a white man next time.

From where kamala started there was not much she could have done better. It was too late for a bold leftist strategy that differentiated her from biden. And biden *did* have progressive accomplishments in domestic policy achievements from the first half of the term and she did run on those.

I hated the cheney stuff though. That was the only real misstep.

There is never anything the Democratic candidate could have done better. Oh well, maybe next time.

I donated to bernie in 2016 and 2020 and would prefer this kind of program. But it’s not who she is.

maybe inflation is so bad any sitting party would have lost

Not sure bernie would have won either. People seem to like Trump.

The Cheney thing was gross. Like it didn’t matter a damn bit that Iraq ever happened, and that a core group of necessary voters came of age opposing and protesting some of these same people. Democratic voters turn out when politicians say they need everyone in their own party, and offer them policies for their hard work. Rather than the Beltway bullshit of meeting Republicans in the middle, which is the political version of Charlie Brown thinking this time, he will kick the football.

would love it if we never rehabbed another goddamn right wing politician that wasn't deserving of it ever again

would love it if they died as soon as their terms end

oh man, replicant Republicans, it all makes sense now

being a decent human being is impossible when your life is so short

And biden *did* have progressive accomplishments in domestic policy achievements from the first half of the term and she did run on those.

― treeship 2, Thursday, 7 November 2024 bookmarkflaglink

The vote says something else. Now to try someone new.

tell me more about these “progressive” accomplishments that did anything for the working class that they could actually feel in their day to day lives. as i said before the election, the insistence that Biden actually did so much is gaslighting bullshit when 60% of the population are living paycheck to paycheck. come back when the Dems start talking about THAT.

this is what I agree with. I feel like I've got a foot in both camps and can see this...I see where the economy IS good and how I benefit, and I see where it is terrible and where I struggle, and I can see privileged folks with too much money with stable jobs and bloated 401ks...and I see people with precarious jobs (if any) and no savings.

I'm very lucky, but even in my relatively comfortable perch, I know I can't easily switch jobs, I know I'm paying tons of money to keep myself and my family healthy and am always one step from losing that and I know how much work it is just to reap the rewards of this privilege. How many phone calls it takes to work out whether my insurance is going to cover something that costs 1500 dollars or not. And I think about people who don't even have insurance that good. Or any.

Anyway, it's crystal clear that no matter what numbers or metrics say the economy is good, people do not feel it, and it's not from a lack of being educated about it.

Basically to get elected a Democrat is going to have to promise to do a bunch of things that big Democratic donors don't want.

The idea that Bernie would have won makes zero sense to me. Pretty demographic shifted right.

I get that may have felt better to some folks to lose with a genuinely progressive platform, but common, man.

* pretty much every demographic

Depends whether you think they actually shifted right or voted for the anti-elite candidate